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#1 ·
With a drone you have the ability to acquire real time intelligence, which road is open? Where is the enemy? Where are other likeminded? Where is a damn bulldozer? The only prohibitive factor might be cost, but you can purchase one second hand or build one from a kit or even build one from scratch. You can get certain parts like actuators from scrap copiers etc.

There are of course many other applications beyond using it as an observation tool.

It can be used to deliver and receive written messages or parcels.

You could use it as a gunship by attaching a rifle. It won’t be terribly effective at killing, but it would be extremely effectively as a shock weapon- it will scare the socks off of them! Hibo… inyoni indiza nesibhamu!

Here is a handgun attached to a homemade drone made by an 18yo engineering student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqHrTtvFFIs

Here is something a tiny bit more advanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

Most of us with a bit of fiddling skills can make something in-between these two examples –theoretically speaking of course.

Using it up close works fine if they just have machetes, but they will be armed so it would be better to use at a distance – that’s why I say its use is as a shock weapon and not really for killing.

Now there is however a very deadly use. Instead of the actuator triggering a handgun or rifle, it could be used to drop some type of bomb, again, theoretically speaking. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-planning-use-toy-helicopters-6119888

You could go all out and attach a night vision camera which would mean they would not see it coming and they will not be able to shoot it down. You could attach a stronger camera to zoom in from a very high altitude in day light - many come with these strong cameras as standard.

Here is a link for drones. On the left of the page, move the payload setting to choose ones which can take more weight.
http://drones.specout.com/saved_search/Drones-that-Carry-the-Most-Weight

It goes without saying that it is illegal to go ahead and arm these things – that stuff is just for interest sake guys.

Using it for observation is by far its most useful purpose.

This site will give you all the info you need to know about the law covering ownership and operation of drones in SA. http://www.safedrone.co.za/

Basically the licensing is very complicated and you will be on a waiting List.

On a totally separate subject, we live in such a strange country. Did you guys know that the Basotho actually skin cats and eat them? I would not advice this, dogs probably taste much better, but if you hungry and want to survive why not?
 
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#2 ·
With a drone you have the ability to acquire real time intelligence, which road is open? Where is the enemy? Where are other likeminded? Where is a damn bulldozer? The only prohibitive factor might be cost, but you can purchase one second hand or build one from a kit or even build one from scratch. You can get certain parts like actuators from scrap copiers etc.

There are of course many other applications beyond using it as an observation tool.

It can be used to deliver and receive written messages or parcels.

You could use it as a gunship by attaching a rifle. It won’t be terribly effective at killing, but it would be extremely effectively as a shock weapon- it will scare the socks off of them! Hibo… inyoni indiza nesibhamu!

Here is a handgun attached to a homemade drone made by an 18yo engineering student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqHrTtvFFIs

Here is something a tiny bit more advanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

Most of us with a bit of fiddling skills can make something in-between these two examples –theoretically speaking of course.

Using it up close works fine if they just have machetes, but they will be armed so it would be better to use at a distance – that’s why I say its use is as a shock weapon and not really for killing.

Now there is however a very deadly use. Instead of the actuator triggering a handgun or rifle, it could be used to drop some type of bomb, again, theoretically speaking. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-planning-use-toy-helicopters-6119888

You could go all out and attach a night vision camera which would mean they would not see it coming and they will not be able to shoot it down. You could attach a stronger camera to zoom in from a very high altitude in day light - many come with these strong cameras as standard.

Here is a link for drones. On the left of the page, move the payload setting to choose ones which can take more weight.
http://drones.specout.com/saved_search/Drones-that-Carry-the-Most-Weight

It goes without saying that it is illegal to go ahead and arm these things – that stuff is just for interest sake guys.

Using it for observation is by far its most useful purpose.

This site will give you all the info you need to know about the law covering ownership and operation of drones in SA. http://www.safedrone.co.za/

Basically the licensing is very complicated and you will be on a waiting List.

On a totally separate subject, we live in such a strange country. Did you guys know that the Basotho actually skin cats and eat them? I would not advice this, dogs probably taste much better, but if you hungry and want to survive why not?
Did you know that there are now three companies in South Africa which are successfully manufacturing "commercial" drones i.e. drones which are acknowledged to be up to international scratch as opposed to wannabe?

As a matter of interest to you, there is also a new sniper/anti-materiel rifle manufacturer, too. That makes three up-to-international-scratch of them as well.
 
#3 ·
No I was not aware we had guys making them, please post some links if you have. I only recently became interested in drones when I visited the Kruger park. We stopped and chatted to people parked next to the road in a bus who were busy operating a drone for anti rhino poaching. I did not go in the bus but from the door I could clearly see the screens and the lady operating the drone. It made a big impression me. The cost is relatively low given the massive capability you gain. Before drones you could only have this capability with an observation airplane and landing strips, pilots, ground/maintenance crew etc. at the cost of tens of millions.
 
#4 ·
Man, 300, I am afraid that I don't remember the names of the manufacturers except Denel (Seeker, Hungwe, Bateleur - the ones we all know) and Paramount who have three or four models.

There is another South African company which is producing "proper" drones about whom I read on Defenceweb. Unfortunately, I read so many Defenceweb articles that I only have the bandwidth to make mental notes of the areas in which I am truly interested.

It's the same with the rifles. I can only recall one manufacturer's name off-hand (Truvelo).

Again, as a matter of interest to you, South African manufacturers have recently held the maiden flights of two brand-new models of aircraft. Only one has a (light) combat capability but even the other one is more than useful in a light combat-support role. It's extremely light-duty but it has exceptional performance in one or two specialist spheres which are relevant to some military applications.
 
#9 ·
Sherbet Danie, at the risk of sounding like a bullduster, I don't recall the name but I know that there is a new one.

As I explained to 300, I spend my life reading articles therefore I can only remember snippets here and there. If I state a fact it is because I am certain of it but I might not have memorised the background, or less salient, information unless it is certain special fields (forecasting per se, intelligence per se, strategy, and unit composition).

Man, we all know of the Mechem NTW, and Truvelo's range is supposedly truly good. Who the third company is, I just cannot recall but if you do a search on Defenceweb amongst their recent articles (between 4 and 8 weeks ago) you should find it quite easily. They do three lead articles per day, 5 days a week, so there is a maximum of 120 articles' headlines to sieve. A ten minute search will find it, easily.

I hope that this helps you.
 
#11 ·
You guys have a very romantic view of drones. Typically, they can lift ounces, not pounds (weapons are out).

They can fly for 20-30 minutes tops, and average distance is way less than a mile. Launching one is as complicated as a space shuttle with the charging of Main power Batts, LAN batts, iPad/iPhone, getting to a place where you have 7+ sats, etc., and then launching and hoping you don'r have a "fly away" (I did on my second day).

Video is, however, top notch.

WW
 
#13 ·
I think drones are gonna be a game changer if more peeps think like you:)
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Sincerely hope all laities in the SL grid got one in the stocking last Christmas, as it will be a major advantage in the times ahead of us.

BUT. do you think its wise to submit all your personal details and the specs of your tech toys at this late stage ? So what if its not licensed - this will be one of the few things you wont have to worry about when all hell breaks out - cause no one is going to care during a civil war/ revolt .

Besides, since they have a backlog and mostly likely cant / wont process your application in time for it to be legally used when the SHTF , why expose yourself & help flag your tech toys to the corrupt officials in licensing departments? For all we know this could be exactly how and why your home becomes a target in the near future.

Call me paranoid but what are the chances of this paning out any better than the situation at the firearms licencing department ? (Remember how the ANC gov required all existing & legit owners to re apply for all licensed weapons and arms .

Has this done ANYTHING to protect the flow of weapons on the black market ? Has this resulted in reduced murder rates or less violent robberies etc? ).

Since that useless exercise the only change has been a significant and consistant increase of brutal robberies to redistribute arms from the thousands of law abiding white (& Some black!)owners to the increasing numbers of a black criminal class who will kill for their next Gucci gear & their annual tech upgrades.
 
#14 ·
I get what you saying, Kat

I have studied war/conflict for some time now and I can assure you that the normalities (normal rules) do not apply once the killing starts. Yes you must own a done within the law pre kak, but in Lesotho they Skin and eat cats... right?

The benefits of such a tool is really important/significant, all I am trying to do is to make normal people aware of it. I quoted the site twice that explains the regulations, so I leave it to the reader.
 
#19 ·
This drone reminds me of that flying disc prototype the US created in the late 50's, it could only fly a few meters off the ground and it was very unstable. Seeing this makes me wonder whether they should revisit the idea, if it works in miniature it can possibly work in full scale. I wonder how it works. The 50's flying **** had, if I recall correctly, 4 or 6 individual motors. From the looks of this drone I would think it is a single jet engine with multiple valves.
 
#20 ·
Are common drones big, fast and powerful enough to blow away beach tents and umbrellas with hardly a sound? This looks like advanced technology that is beyond jet engines. Besides, a jet flying that low would have made a massive noise and would have left a noticeable disturbance in the air that was absent with these. There were two of them and they flew quite capably. Also they appeared to be quite large compared to any drone I could find online. Does anyone have any information on such devices? They were clearly unmarked, so it leaves one to wonder who was piloting them, private or military. Ideas?
 
#22 ·
Fundamentally that is what it all boils down to regardless of what anyone would think or say. This is a war between the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness and we are caught in between. The governments want to control everything and make us all slaves...human drones, if you will. We will at some point have to make a stand and work for our rights or they will all be taken away. Any technology that could help us in that cause will be heavily regulated in such a way that it will be difficult at best to accomplish much.

Drones could be helpful for many things and obviously they government does not want us to have access, or it might level the playing field. If the video I posted indeed was drones, then they have much more advanced technology than they are allowing us access to and that will make things that much more challenging. Prayer will make a bigger difference than most will care to admit, because it activates power that is greater than anything the dark forces can muster.

If your computer can freeze and crash, so can an advanced technology instrument such as drones or flying saucers. We cannot see the things that make our computers crash and the enemy forces may not see what makes their technology fail them if we band together and take a stand against evil.:)
 
#24 ·
Check out www.droneworld.co.za

On their site they say that hobbyists don't need a licence etc. (they do mention that it is not legal advice).

They sell new and complete (16k +), but you can get second hand Everywhere and build/attach to meet your requirement at 6-8k.

Guys, if you want to clear some fog on D-day you need observation proper.
 
#27 ·
Drones for Dummies - Rule 1



DRONES FOR DUMMIES - RULE 1
DO NOT CRASH YOUR DRONE INTO THE ONLY NEARBY NUDIST RESORT IN MID DAY -CAUSE THESE NAKED HIPPIES WILL NOT GIVE IT BACK!!!!!



Our first drone arrived last week and even though its no eagle like a phantom etc, we were well excited to get it airborn to shoot some visuals on its pre- fitted/included HD cam.



I spent many hours to get to know its parts , basic flight controls and of course what NOT to do as a novice... (Afrikaanse meisies het mos net poppe en pophuise gekry in my tyd , so ek het geen ervaring met remote operated model treine, karre en vliegtuigies nie!)

After indoors testing of all functions I was ready for action the next day , but alas, the better half's excitement took control and within 10 minutes it had soared so high that he could not see its battery charge indicator lights , lost total control and watched it tumble down on its maiden flight.

My advice to other enthusiastic newbs is to start with a cheap model to master basics and to strictly adhere to the advice of pro's...

Our drone crashed into the outdoor entertainment area of a local Nudist resort during mid day - and we will not be getting it back EVER.

Fortunately , this model is super cheap on AliExpress right now (About R500?!!) - so it was easy to order another one.

https://youtu.be/BJN9XvqtsYc
 
#33 ·
Indeed. It was impossible to buy alcohol for 5 days after he died. And there is even a service for dying clothing black. FREE!

It's not unlike Mandela's death except more serious.

Anyway, have a look at the attached pic. We are back in drone trainING action with our second drone. It's larger and more difficult to fly. So we added some "training wheels" today which makes for less bumpy landings.

Oh- and we are staying well clear of the hippies ;)
 

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