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This is my first post and first of all let me say how blessed we are to have such an informative site! I have been looking for a site such as this for a long time and am so glad I found it this morning.
Here's my first (of many questions). Can I purchase wheat, beans, etc at the local feed store and it will still be healthy to consume? Also, what other seeds (food) will be okay to buy there as well?
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Good question, JoeKan.

I don't know about the wheat, but beans should be fine. Did you ask the store personnel? About the feed store, they often sell animal antibiotics which are usable on humans in a pinch. Amoxicillin is very common (usually pink, refrigerated, and injectable) and the fish antibiotics are in pill form, so you can simply do the calcs for human weight if you don't have a prescription.

They also sell shots for your pets (which saves a fortune in vet bills when you have as many dogs as we do) if you don't mind pinching the back of your pets neck and giving them a little love prick, and they even sell DMSO which is labeled "industrial use only" but has a purity of over 99% so we have used it for years for aches and pains and administering meds transdermally (through the skin)

Incidentally, DMSO is the drug of choice for heart attacks, strokes and spinal cord injuries (if given soon enough) Again, I'm just mentioning it because most people are unaware of it's marvelous properties for all sorts of ailments. (especially arthritis)

I'm not trying to hijack your thread, just thought you'd want to know about these other products that are readily available in an emergency situation.

About the wheat......you could just try it, if it looks like Quaker Oats.

One thing you should watch out for is, most feed corn and soy is genetically modified varieties these days. You don't want GMO unless you can't find anything else to eat, regardless of what "they" say about it. Buy heirloom (not "organic") seed over the internet (to insure freshness) and after your first crop, you should have enough seed saved to last any number of years.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks Madden,
Where would be a good place to purchase the wheat, beans, etc. then? I'm planning on getting 5 gal. buckets with mylar bags and oxygen absorbants and doing it myself.
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Here's my first (of many questions). Can I purchase wheat, beans, etc at the local feed store and it will still be healthy to consume? Also, what other seeds (food) will be okay to buy there as well?
Thank you and have an awesome day,
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We buy a large percentage of our consumables through our local feed store. But the folks who run it also cater to people, and have stuff on their shelves.
Most feed dealers have the ability to special order organic and non-organic products for human consumption. We even get the bulk of our spices through our feed store.

I'd try that before eating animal-grade products. Too many additives.
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Good Morning to All,
This is my first post and first of all let me say how blessed we are to have such an informative site! I have been looking for a site such as this for a long time and am so glad I found it this morning.
Here's my first (of many questions). Can I purchase wheat, beans, etc at the local feed store and it will still be healthy to consume? Also, what other seeds (food) will be okay to buy there as well?
Thank you and have an awesome day,
Joe
make sure you are not buying seed,wheat,beans, corn.
buy dent corn, hard red or hard white wheat. hard white is best for bread. i wish our feed store sold beans, i would have saved over 500 dollars on shipping
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I called the producer of the wheat that is stocked in my local feed store when I was researching.

There basic reply to me was that "Wheat is Wheat" unless it is used for seeding.

The difference between whole foods hard red winter wheat and the feed store 50lb bags? The cleaning of the field dust and chaff. Re-cleaned wheat typically only has the stones and initial dust removed. You have to remove the rest yourself to get that health food store look.

Just ask the feed store people. They get more people than you think buying it for themselves to eat!
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JoeKan, be careful to keep the seed you buy for planting separate from the bulk FEED (oats, wheat, etc.) you are buying. Most SEED has been treated to help in germantion (sp) which is harmful to consume as food. It is Seed and needs to be planted and harvested and consumed.
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From what I understand, wheat from the "food" sources are processed "threshed" one moe time than feed strore wheat. That means there is a little, very little, chaff in the wheat. But it's the same stuff.

There is a youtube series on packaging wheat that talks about it. I'm at work and youtube is blocked, I'll try to post the link later.
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Thanks everyone. I called our local feed store and he said they do have wheat (red) and soy beans for human consumption.
What would you use soy beans for anyway? Also, do you think he's telling me the truth about human consumption?
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Okay I bought a bag of wheat. I think it is bird seed wheat. Is that okay to eat?
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What would you use soy beans for anyway?
Soy beans can be used for a variety of things, but I would recommend growing your own, if possible. Here's why.

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Soybeans are one of the "biotech food" crops that have been genetically modified, and genetically modified soybeans are being used in an increasing number of products. In 1995 Monsanto introduced Roundup Ready (RR) soybeans that have been genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup through substitution of the Agrobacterium sp. (strain CP4) gene EPSP (5-enolpyruvyl shikimic acid-3-phosphate) synthase. The substituted version is not sensitive to glyphosate.

In 1997, about 8% of all soybeans cultivated for the commercial market in the United States were genetically modified. In 2006, the figure was 89%. As with other "Roundup Ready" crops, concern is expressed over damage to biodiversity. However, the RR gene has been bred into so many different soybean cultivars that the genetic modification itself has not resulted in any decline of genetic diversity, as demonstrated by a 2003 study on genetic diversity.

The widespread use of such types of GM soybeans in the Americas has caused problems with exports to some regions. GM crops require extensive certification before they can be legally imported into the European Union, where there is considerable supplier and consumer reluctance to use GM products for consumer or animal use. Difficulties with coexistence and subsequent traces of cross-contamination of non-GM stocks have caused shipments to be rejected and have put a premium on non-GM soy.
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Careful with the soy beans as

The United States (85%) and Argentina (98%) produce almost exclusively GM soybeans. In these countries, GM soybeans are approved without restrictions and are treated just like conventional soybeans. Producers and government officials in the US and Argentina do not see a reason to keep GM and conventionally bred cultivars separate whether during harvest, shipment, storage or processing. Soybean imports from these countries generally contain a high amount of GM content.

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Thanks everyone. I called our local feed store and he said they do have wheat (red) and soy beans for human consumption.
What would you use soy beans for anyway? Also, do you think he's telling me the truth about human consumption?
Thanks again,
Joe
Soy is used for lots of foods.

Keep in mind that soy is loaded with estrogen.

It makes men sterile and it makes young girls start their puberty years before they are physically ready for puberty.

Older women need the added estrogen though.
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I buy whole corn and oats at the feed store. Sadly, they don't carry wheat anywhere around here. And I live in the buckle of the wheat belt!
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I buy whole corn and oats at the feed store. Sadly, they don't carry wheat anywhere around here. And I live in the buckle of the wheat belt!
Have you tried the local co-op? You can walk in and buy whatever you want.... price last I checked it was just over 3 or 4 bucks a bushel.
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I used to eat it out of the grainery on our farm as a kid all the time and never had a problem. We just bought 800 lbs of Barley at $6.60 per 80 lbs($66.00 total) and wheat is priced about the same. We feed it to the goats and horses but if I had to we could also eat it. Mark
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Be sure the feeds are tested for aflatoxin levels. They allow a higher level in animal feed and sometimes feed rejected for human consumption is sold through feed stores. Aflatoxin is extremely nasty stuff. I wish we had a feed store nearby, I'd be buying my grain there too if it met safe levels.
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Be sure the feeds are tested for aflatoxin levels. They allow a higher level in animal feed and sometimes feed rejected for human consumption is sold through feed stores. Aflatoxin is extremely nasty stuff. I wish we had a feed store nearby, I'd be buying my grain there too if it met safe levels.
Aflatoxin are produced by fungi and are commonly found in:
maize;
sorghum;
pearl millet;
rice;
wheat;
peanut;
soybean;
sunflower;
cotton;
chile peppers;
black pepper;
coriander;
turmeric;
ginger;
almond;
pistachio;
walnut;
coconut;
brazil nut.

It can also be found in the milk of animals which are fed contaminated feed.

Virtually all sources of commercial peanut butter in the United States contain it.
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Have you tried the local co-op? You can walk in and buy whatever you want.... price last I checked it was just over 3 or 4 bucks a bushel.
Yes, I've tried to Co-Ops. There are huge elevators in the towns all around me, but none sell wheat. Which is strange. I even called a milling company about an hour away and they will only sell milled wheat. Something about a "variety protection act" or something making it illegal to sell the wheat berries.
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Yes, I've tried to Co-Ops. There are huge elevators in the towns all around me, but none sell wheat. Which is strange. I even called a milling company about an hour away and they will only sell milled wheat. Something about a "variety protection act" or something making it illegal to sell the wheat berries.
Hey, thanks!

I had not heard of the 'Plant Variety Protection Act' so I googled it.

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/crops/00301.html

A law that allows for companies to voluntarily act to protect their patented plants.

Say you develop a new GMO wheat. It is your private patented or patentable franken-wheat. Selling the berries might allow someone else to grow it, and avoid paying you for the rights to grow it.

So you get the mill to agree that it can only be sold milled so there is no possible way for the wheat to be planted.

It is a method to protect Genetic-Modified plants and their ownership.

It was signed into law in 1970, back when Genetic Modification of stuff was realy new.
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