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Other than PM, what might be a good way to store value Apocalypse or not?

For example, PMs will be of value before and after the event. I could sell my PM any time before and use it as barter after.

What other methods of storing value might be considered.
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It varries by time your asking the question, and how long you intend to hold.

Right now, if I were sitting on a pile of cash i didnt have a purpose for,more than an emergency fund:

Silver and AR parts, perhaps mags also.

Ammo WHEN BOUGHT RIGHT is another. (last year at this time I dropped $11k into 5.45 just after the ban/before the price increases.)

Guns have the issue of it being illegal to "deal" in them.

Couple AR's and cheap Glocks couldn't hurt...
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No "thing" stores value.
Value is relative.
The function of a money token is to pass value to a future trade, when barter is insufficient. Money cannot "store" value. Money is useless if there is nothing for sale.
Money madness is the reason we're in the current predicament.
Good luck.

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But back to the original question:
A man with a year's supply of money will not outlive a man with a year's supply of food. A man with two year's supply of food is far richer than most paper billionaires.
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Medicine and spices. There was a time salt was worth its weight in gold, and plenty of medicines these days are worth well beyond their weight in gold.
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Medicine and spices. There was a time salt was worth its weight in gold, and plenty of medicines these days are worth well beyond their weight in gold.
Generally the DEA frouns upon "unlicensed pharmacists"
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Generally the DEA frouns upon "unlicensed pharmacists"
I used to be an amateur pharmacist and unlicensed practicing gynecologist.

Both got me in trouble...can you believe it? ....and it was all for personal business.
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Generally the DEA frouns upon "unlicensed pharmacists"
In this kind of situation, I imagine the DEA would have more important things to deal with than someone doling out aspirins.
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Depends on what aspect of storage you're shooting for. There's the concept that some ivy league entitled brats call "fungibility". Then there's liquidity. In a nutshell, are you looking to store value that is liable to track inflation, beat inflation, or is quite easily exchanged for something else? Depends on what your goals are.

I know a guy who says footwear. Everyone needs shoes or boots.
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Medicine, salt and spices, etc. are great after the apocalyptic event but not something you can easily get your value from before an event. In other words, 25 lbs. of salt would be very desirable after but hard to sell before.

I'm looking for something, other than PM, that one could sell before and barter after.

I'm beginning to think firearms and ammo might be the ticket. I could sell them at a gun show if I needed the cash now and would bring a lot of value in barter after.

BTW, thanks everyone for the thoughtful replies.
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In this kind of situation, I imagine the DEA would have more important things to deal with than someone doling out aspirins.
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Other than PM, what might be a good way to store value Apocalypse or not?

For example, PMs will be of value before and after the event. I could sell my PM any time before and use it as barter after.

What other methods of storing value might be considered.
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Medicine, salt and spices, etc. are great after the apocalyptic event but not something you can easily get your value from before an event. In other words, 25 lbs. of salt would be very desirable after but hard to sell before.

I'm looking for something, other than PM, that one could sell before and barter after.

I'm beginning to think firearms and ammo might be the ticket. I could sell them at a gun show if I needed the cash now and would bring a lot of value in barter after.

BTW, thanks everyone for the thoughtful replies.
Very few things that have value now will have value post-shtf, and most things that will have value post-shtf don't have much value right now.
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Just about everything that fits the category that has been mentioned, and that I can think of, could be vulnerable to governmental controls and restrictions, if not outright banning and confiscation.

There could be something that will not be, but usually, if something has value, and there is a crisis of some sort, the government will want to control it in some way.

My point is not to give up and not try, but to, like almost all things that have a financial aspect (and many that do not), diversify. Do not put all you money and trust in just one type of item. Obtain now and store various amounts of several different items that fit the bill. If one is controlled, perhaps one of the others will not.

As to the actual question as to how to store value, I would have to say owning, or having some type of influential/controlling interest in a working farm (or several) would be one of the things that would hold value. The ability to feed people is always going to have value. But do not let this change the diversification idea. Governments have seized food and farms from people before for the 'public good'.

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While I think tillable land with water is a great investment, we can't forget about the taxes....and the ability for those taxes to rise. As Jerry mentioned too, governments can come after land one way or another....

In the current situation, I don't see ammunition being a had hedge. It is pretty easy to acquire, has a long shelf life, is in demand, and is fairly easy to sell. I don't see the ammunition situation getting much better in the next few years. I have a feeling the next POTUS election will cause another big run no matter how it shakes out in the end.
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You might not be able to get your money out of it fast but it would provide a steady income -- a small town convenience store or farm store.

Or start a small on-line military surplus or outdoor gear store.

You could buy bulk supplies cheap and constantly rotate them.

I own two small businesses and consider the inventory as part of my preps if needed.
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