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Old 06-12-2017, 05:32 PM
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To those of you who fish and hike, could you detail about your experiences?

I am only experienced with spin fishing in lakes / ocean.

I am going to hike through rivers and lakes (mostly rivers though), and I wonder if I should buy a foldable fly fishing rod, instead of a foldable spin fishing rod.

As I understand, fly fishing technique is more suitable to rivers than spin fishing.

Is it correct that a fly fishing rod is lighter than spin fishing rod?

Which one would you recommend?

Obviously I am a bit afraid to be using a new technique for the first time when I arrive a new destination, but I guess it'd be hard only in the beginning.

Thank you.
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First I would check on the fishing regulations. You may have a very short trip if your arrested for fishing without a license or fishing illegally.

You can fish a river with a standard fishing pole using spinners, spoons, or simple worms.

If you've never fly fished I would stick with what you know. When you eating dinner or not is not depending on you catching a fish then learn how to fly fish.
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There are several portable spin/fly kits available that are a good compromise for this very purpose. I have one that I bought at Walmart years ago and caught loads of panfish, bass, trout and even a some pike with it, and the case is easily attached to a backpack. I have even taken it on several trips where I wouldn`t have otherwise taken a fishing rod with me and had it out this past weekend.

Alternately, I have both takedown spinning (Diawa) and a takedown Cortland 4 weight fly rod that would be packable enough if I wanted that instead. The precise selection of road length, line weight etc. will depend on where you fish. Whether a spinning or fly rod is better for where you fish depends upon the conditions there, but there are definitely times where one type of rod is more effective and it`s good to be able to switch.
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My custom made rod has 4 pieces/sections plus the handle will reverse to be a fly rod.

You need to know how to work a fly rod, takes a while to learn. Wading out into the stream to get away from the brush will help. You need the proper fly's for the time and place you are fishing.

I would just carry a spinning outfit. A good assortment of lures and some hooks for local bait like worms, salmon eggs ...
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Hi Lazarusrat, Prepster and Charlie

Thank you!

At first stage, I will not count on fishing for food until I get into the rhythm and manage to catch fish easily, so I'll stay within a few days distance of shops, therefore I can afford spending time learning how to fly-fish.

I didn't know you could fly fish with a standard rod.

Don't you need a heavy fly-line to fly fish?
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Here is a combo example. Look for special ferrules and ceramic guides to get better action and easier casting.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/COPPE...OD/1862590.uts
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I've owned a five piece Fenwick spin/fly pack rod for 32 yrs.

I used it as a 6 wt fly rod for fishing Golden Trout in high elevation lakes, and spin fishing for walleye, bass, crappie, and catfish in lower elevation rivers and lakes.

My backpack fishing gear looks like this.
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Hi Lazarusrat, Prepster and Charlie

Thank you!

At first stage, I will not count on fishing for food until I get into the rhythm and manage to catch fish easily, so I'll stay within a few days distance of shops, therefore I can afford spending time learning how to fly-fish.

I didn't know you could fly fish with a standard rod.

Don't you need a heavy fly-line to fly fish?
The spin/fly rod combos usually rely on turning the handle around to accommodate the different reels. They are usually a bit of a compromise in terms of length or number of guides, etc.

Sometimes it is more efficient to cast a fly to a spot with fish or to drift baits past fish in shallow flats or running water. Other times spinning gear is better to get deeper or cover more water, but you`ll figure that out with practice. For a hiker, the combo sets work well to cover the most options with one rod.
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Love fly fishing! But like most fly fishermen, have left many a flies hanging in trees and brush along creeks and rivers. Spin casting set ups appeal when fishing in areas with no room to back cast, unless you can master the roll cast in fly fishing. Also, running nymphs in water churning so fast and furious can be a blast...you know the fish are there!
Of course I'm talking about trout; I've given up on fishing warm weather fish to chase trout in the Mountains or cool weather streams. Good luck, you'll love it!
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I have a st croix travel rod and an ultra lite real. I actually do all my fishing from a bike. I like to carry two rods just in case I run into some catfish. Good luck buddy


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Its sounds like you never fly fished before,so I would say stick to what you know..spin fishing unless you can get a years worth of practice before your trip with flies.
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Hi,

To those of you who fish and hike, could you detail about your experiences?

I am only experienced with spin fishing in lakes / ocean.

I am going to hike through rivers and lakes (mostly rivers though), and I wonder if I should buy a foldable fly fishing rod, instead of a foldable spin fishing rod.

As I understand, fly fishing technique is more suitable to rivers than spin fishing.

Is it correct that a fly fishing rod is lighter than spin fishing rod?

Which one would you recommend?

Obviously I am a bit afraid to be using a new technique for the first time when I arrive a new destination, but I guess it'd be hard only in the beginning.

Thank you.
Where I live, there are certain rivers in which you can only fly fish. These are salmon rivers and if caught angling, you will be fined and have all your equipment and gear confiscated.
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Thank you very much everyone!

I enjoyed reading your posts!

May I ask please, why are spinning rods not suitable for river fishing?

And, can you fly-fish in still water, as lakes?

Other than the legal matter that Trippers mentioned.
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I grew up fishing creeks with a bait cast reel and a short metal pole, worked fine. Mostly used natural bait, grasshoppers/hellgrammite larva and worms. Anything you can find under a rock in the creek should work for bait, have a great time.
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Thank you very much everyone!

I enjoyed reading your posts!

May I ask please, why are spinning rods not suitable for river fishing?

Other than the legal matter that Trippers mentioned.
Spinning rods are ABSOLUTELY suitable for river fishing, I've done it my entire life, it's just different from fly fishing, which I've only been doing for 25 years or so.

I often use an ultralight spinning rod with a fly and bubble rig, it lets you fly fish (sort of) without having to learn how to use a fly pole and line, and makes it FAR easier to fish from the brushy bank of a small stream without getting caught up in overhanging stuff.

Seriously, google it, it takes just a few cheap bits of gear, and can open up a lot of different water and ways to catch fish in that water, using gear you already know.


I enjoy the ultralight gear, in the small streams in my AO, catching 8-12 inch brookies and other trout, they are more than adequate. Latch into a 20 inch brown, and you have your hands full, but it's exciting as it gets.

I have two of the convertible rods, one is the old yellow fiberglass Eagle Claw, and the other is a low end graphite model. They are a compromise either way you use them, but they are perfectly capable of catching fish. I also have a small collapsible spinning rod, it works pretty well, very similar to the ultralight rigs, and smaller than the convertible poles I have.
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I've been looking on amazon at some rods like this one. How do you like it and if you don't mind what is it??
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Fly fishing is an acquired skill just like most other useful outdoor skills. I would encourage you to take the advice of others here and find a rod that allows you to turn the handle around to fly fish or spin fish, depending on what options present themselves. Spin fishing is a proven way to catch fish, especially in lakes but in some moving water also. Fly fishing is, in my experience much better suited to moving water (though fly fishermen catch many fish in lakes). Fly fishing is particularly effective in very small streams which do not allow one to get much line out.

With a rod like this, you can carry a small spinning reel and a small fly reel enabling you to choose which method best suits your environment. Try it, chances are that it will become your preferred method of fishing.

The secret to learning to fly fish is to get in the water and fish directly upstream, and avoid trying to cast beyond about 20 feet ahead of yourself as you work your way upstream. It is not as hard as some would like you to think. If you can snap a towel, you can fly fish.
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I've been looking on amazon at some rods like this one. How do you like it and if you don't mind what is it??
It's a cheap 3 foot 6 inch carbon fiber rod from China. It gets the job done, with a high quality ultralight reel & good line.

I've used it a couple seasons backpacking & its held up.

I think, this is the link to it, but not sure.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-110cm-Telescoping-Ice-Outdoor-Fishing-Rod-Mini-Pole-Winter-Fishing-Tackle/401286932525?_trksid=p2045573.c100508.m3226&_trkpa rms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26as c%3D41375%26meid%3D538d8b6f9dc9409fbc757bca13d610e 1%26pid%3D100508%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26
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Hi!

Thanks a lot guys! I so appreciate your help!

Fly fishing sounds really awesome, and from the videos I've seen, it seems to be more "active" than spin fishing, I mean, you don't just stand and wait as you do when spin-fishing.

It does seem though that you need much space behind you when you fly-fish, you can't just fly-fish anywhere, unless you really get into the water, as Paveglass
mentioned.

Since I'll be aiming to fish in lakes as well, I think that dual fly/spinning rod would indeed be the best option, or as ajole mentioned, the fly and bubble rig.

I wouldn't wanna rule out fishing in lakes due to having fly-fish rod.
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