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Old 06-23-2019, 07:42 PM
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Kid wants a gaming computer and I haven't played computer games on 20 years. Here are a few, any good? Thanks
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:57 PM
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Neither are that great. They wouldn’t support new games.

I’d recommend one of two options.

1. Build one from scratch for about the same price as these (plenty of people here including me who could guide you on how to do it).

2. Upgrade your current PC with a few components that will make it gaming capable.

The big components are the processor, the graphics card, and RAM.
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Old 06-23-2019, 08:09 PM
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What processer and graphics do you recommend?
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I like AMD because it performs the same as Intel but costs less. First you need to figure out if your motherboard supports Intel or AMD processors. By looking at your system components (I’m assuming you have Windows) it will tell you exactly what you have.

The Ryzen 7 2700x is a good mid-range AMD professor. Intel i5 9600k is mid-range for Intel.

A GTX 1080 is a good mid-range graphics card.

RAM is ram, so make sure you have at least 16 GB.

Newegg is a great website that offers tons of deals and sales on all of these components. Amazon is pretty good as well. These components can add up to $500-800, but will handle anything on the market. The nice thing about upgrading components in your PC is you don’t need to buy new speakers, a mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc. Don’t fall for fancy looking cases/towers that Craigslist sellers always try to dupe people with...
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I would just get a floppotron.

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I agree with Dread11. Neither is very good for modern games.

What kind of games do they want to play?

GPU (graphics card) is the biggest and most expensive thing to consider. I'm an Nvidia fan so the GTX 1070, 1080 are the go to cards but those have a nice price tag. The new RTX cards are great but even Nvidia acknowledges no games use their features yet.

For bang vs buck the Asus ROG GTX 1660ti is the way to go. 1070 performance at a better price.

CPU, Dread hit the nail on the head. The AMD Ryzen 7 2700x is a great chip for the price. Newegg and Amazon are good sources for the hardware.

Our current rig is a ASUS ROG Strix Ryzen motherboard, Ryzen 7 2700x cpu and a ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1660ti video card and it can handle absolutely anything we throw at it at Ultra settings.

Here's a link to the MB, we bought the combo they show:
https://www.amazon.com/ROG-Strix-X47...02680154&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Overcloc.../dp/B07NHQ5HNW

So complete rig is a bit over a grand with case, power supply and SSD drive. It's not the best you can get but bang for buck it's hard to beat.
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I'm surprised your kids wants a "gaming computer". My 13 year old wouldn't know what to do with one. He only plays on Xbox or Nintendo. That seems to be the preferred way to go with most young kids.
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What ever you get make sure it has a decent sized SSD. Well worth the dollars
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Kid wants a gaming computer and I haven't played computer games on 20 years. Here are a few, any good?
Important things first: what games he plays or wants to play?

Some games and software benefit from multiple but slower cores while (too many) others work best if processor has really powerful cores but game utilizes just one or two of them.

Same goes for difference between AMD and nVidia graphics cards, one brand shines on a particular game but might be a lot worse on another.

Therefore, if plan is to play some particular game (fortnite, battlefield, warcraft...) it might be beneficial to choose best bang for buck concerning that game than just go for best performance at much higher price (or worse performance at higher price).

TRyan: one reason could be he is interested in a particular game that is not available on consoles.
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I would just get a floppotron.

Danger Zone on FLOPPOTRON - YouTube

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Good video card is a plus, but the new ones may require a new MB. Also, I too am a huge fan of AMD processors. Been using them for 25 years. Back in the day they were a third of intel's price, and worked great. Still do. I am running an 8 core AMD 8350 processor with AMD 580 video, and it plays games just fine.
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If they are not serious about gaming I would just order a gaming computer or go buy one at walmart. Buying requires time and effort and a lot of people cant do it. And buying used gaming computers comes at a risk for people with no computer knowledge. They will tell you one thing and the computer is complete something else. Seen this a lot at the local computer store.
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I used to build computers, I could mix and match, pick the best bits, knew all the interfaces, best brands of each component, and what would conflict....

And here we are 10 years later, and I know nothing. Everything has progressed, the interfaces are different, brands are new, or gone, and Id be starting from scratch.

So Id buy a built system. Go big with the RAM and the GPU, get the GPU and processors that his favorite games perform best on, and call it a day.

That, or spend some time...lots of time....researching things to build your own.
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Make it a project that you and your kid can work on together. There are tons of sites that deal with components and building systems. Do basic research and set your budget limitations. Then research the sites together and debate which components you want vs budget. It's a fun and rewarding process, because sometime down the line you'll have to troubleshoot a system that's not working correctly. If you build it yourself with your kid, you'll know where everything is and how to replace components. A good place to start is the gamer sites. They can probably give you an idea of hardware and software requirements.
I started using ASUS hardware years ago and kind of got used to how they do things. The stuff lasts so long that I end up using them as Linux boxes or give them to my little nieces and nephews to tear up.
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There are hundreds of YouTube videos if you search for "gaming computer setup"
or "gaming computer build"
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How much are you willing to spend? A decent one will cost you about $1500 dollars if you build it yourself. Expect 2000-2500 for a pre-made one. Personally, it's his computer, so he needs to learn how to build it. Buy the parts, have him do the research and build it himself. He needs to know this...
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:42 AM
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www.pcpartpicker.com

Can help if you want to mix and match parts and see rough prices, compatibility is also taken into account here and its 98% correct.

Youtube pc builds to learn how to put it all together, if its a completely new thing for you and your son its worth seeing it visually in great detail on what to do and not a bad thing to know.

I've done budget builds that can play certain games on max settings that are $550-$600 depending on deals available or PCs that will run the latest and greatest games for years to come where the graphics card alone is $1200-$1400 and could top the build out for $3000.
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Good video card is a plus, but the new ones may require a new MB. Also, I too am a huge fan of AMD processors. Been using them for 25 years. Back in the day they were a third of intel's price, and worked great. Still do. I am running an 8 core AMD 8350 processor with AMD 580 video, and it plays games just fine.
You and I have almost the same computer. Mine is a 8370 unlocked and I have it slightly over clocked to run at 4.5Ghz with a GTX 1060 video card. I have no problem playing games on it either. Mostly play COD and FarCry type games on it
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I bought Lenovo Legion T530 desktop for grandson, and he says it rocks.

I spent alot of time trying researching and looking for deals on parts and after I calculated prices, it seemed better to just buy a turnkey solution.


Here is link to site for parts price hunter:

It also adds price to running total, as you add parts to a build.

https://pcpartpicker.com

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Honestly I recommend building a true customer gaming PC.

If that's really not an option, I'd go Alienware. Yes, it's expensive, but I still think it's the best outside of custom rigs.

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