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With the choice of these two goons, how can anyone not be planning to vote Third Party this time? I mean, you really think either of these crooks is going to be good for us? You really want to send a message? The whole country should vote Third Party!
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No Third Party candidate stands a chance to win. IMO, voting that way is just giving the election to either of the two major party candidates. No Third Party candidate has anyway near the votes to win.
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With the choice of these two goons, how can anyone not be planning to vote Third Party this time? I mean, you really think either of these crooks is going to be good for us? You really want to send a message? The whole country should vote Third Party!
People should vote for the best candidate for the job. It boggles my mind that anyone could possibly think that person is Trump or Hillary.
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No Third Party candidate stands a chance to win. IMO, voting that way is just giving the election to either of the two major party candidates. No Third Party candidate has anyway near the votes to win.
How has that Kool-Aid worked out so far?

Isn't it getting a bit rancid now?
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With the choice of these two goons, how can anyone not be planning to vote Third Party this time? I mean, you really think either of these crooks is going to be good for us? You really want to send a message? The whole country should vote Third Party!
We have:
Clinton, Johnson and Trump

They are all about useless, so . . . who do you recommend?
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No Third Party candidate stands a chance to win. IMO, voting that way is just giving the election to either of the two major party candidates. No Third Party candidate has anyway near the votes to win.
So, winning is more important than voting for someone who would Represent you?

Why would voting the "Least Worst/Lesser Evil" be any different than it has over the past few decades?
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I voted for Johnson in 2012, there were no open supreme court seats open at the time. Now there is and the only viable option against Hillary is Trump. I don't like it but the real world sucks and gives you ****ty choices.
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First off, lets quit with the whole stupid people drink kool aid.
Second, All politicians are useless, but unfortunately the world
today could never handle Anarchy. However, if you want to get
closer to small government which = Freedom then Gov Johnson
is your best option.
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First off, lets quit with the whole stupid people drink kool aid.
Second, All politicians are useless, but unfortunately the world
today could never handle Anarchy. However, if you want to get
closer to small government which = Freedom then Gov Johnson
is your best option.
Gary Johnson really is not for smaller government, if you believe his latest comments.

He is about on par with any big government, establishment Politician.
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With the choice of these two goons, how can anyone not be planning to vote Third Party this time? I mean, you really think either of these crooks is going to be good for us? You really want to send a message? The whole country should vote Third Party!
You want to throw away a vote for some wacky fringe 3rd party candidate to send a message

A message to who ?
Do you really think the repubs or dems are worried about the 3rd party candidates ?
Most people don't know who the 3rd party candidates are and if they do they don't take them seriously .

What message ? That you are delusional enough to think voting 3rd party will change anything or make any difference to anyone .

A wasted vote and a wasted message !

Just for the sake of argument ; Let's imagine everyone voted 3rd party this time .
Do you really think electing wacky , open borders , globalist , pot head G. Johnson would be a good for the country ?
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So, winning is more important than voting for someone who would Represent you?

Why would voting the "Least Worst/Lesser Evil" be any different than it has over the past few decades?
There are two choices this time. Least worse or very bad. I leave it up to you to decide which you go for.

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First off, lets quit with the whole stupid people drink kool aid.
Second, All politicians are useless, but unfortunately the world
today could never handle Anarchy. However, if you want to get
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is your best option.
If I saw enough support behind Johnson, I consider voting for him. But something tells me he doesn't have the votes. So every vote for him takes one away from the two main party ones. That will sway the election one way or the other. I'm not willing to have it sway in hillary's favor. She will be the end of us.
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There are two choices this time. Least worse or very bad. I leave it up to you to decide which you go for.
They will both take us to the same place, it just changes which group complains and hwy.

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If I saw enough support behind Johnson, I consider voting for him.
You know that is a self-defeating policy right?

You won't give him support until he has enough support, but he cannot get enough support because people won't give him any support for fear of losing.
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My problem with a third alternative is not they have little chance of winning but that I haven't heard that any of them reflect what I want.

For example, the Greens won't support 2A and repeal anti-gun regulations, and as far as I've heard, neither will Johnson [I am willing to be corrected on this if I am wrong]. Trump may, just may, support 2A if get gets the job. Supporting 2A would be my starting point for selecting anyone.
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My problem with a third alternative is not they have little chance of winning but that I haven't heard that any of them reflect what I want.
So far, no one running (even Johnson) are proposing anything to even attempt to reverse what we are doing.
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Here is how I see the choices. Clinton is sure to be a third term of Obama that would like to get us into a war while stacking the SCOTUS with socialist judges that will work to destroy our freedoms. Johnson has no chance of getting elected. Trump is clearly an unknown that has said many rights things inbetween saying several dumb things. I would also say that when the powers that be stack against someone, then that person likely holds the promise/threat of truly changing things.
I am voting Trump all the way as the alternatives are simply unacceptable.
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So far, no one running (even Johnson) are proposing anything to even attempt to reverse what we are doing.
Now that is the most truthful statement I have seen on a thread with a political bent to it in a long time.
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Now that is the most truthful statement I have seen on a thread with a political bent to it in a long time.
Yeah, I never SAID I was voting for Johnson.
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With the choice of these two goons, how can anyone not be planning to vote Third Party this time? I mean, you really think either of these crooks is going to be good for us? You really want to send a message? The whole country should vote Third Party!
Except the "whole country" won't. Which gives us hillary.

I've done the third party thing several times in the past.

Ron Paul, Libertarian (for what it was worth), Constitution Party (for what it was worth), Ross Perot (got Bill Clinton)

If third parties had what people wanted, they wouldn't be "third parties".

Trump is in effect a third party candidate who co-opted the republicans with the largest primary vote in history.
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Except the "whole country" won't. Which gives us hillary.

I've done the third party thing several times in the past.

Ron Paul, Libertarian (for what it was worth), Constitution Party (for what it was worth), Ross Perot (got Bill Clinton)

If third parties had what people wanted, they wouldn't be "third parties".

Trump is in effect a third party candidate who co-opted the republicans with the largest primary vote in history.
Exactly right.
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So, winning is more important than voting for someone who would Represent you?



Why would voting the "Least Worst/Lesser Evil" be any different than it has over the past few decades?


How is the person going to "represent" you if there is no chance of them getting elected?
It's really not that hard to figure out:
You can vote for the person actively working against you( for me that's hillary), vote for the person who MIGHT work for you( Trump), or vote for the person who farts sunshine and rainbows but has absolutely no chance of getting elected...oh, and by the way, that wasted vote just helped hillary wipe out 2a rights. I hate the choices, I think Trump is a loudmouth carnival barker, I hated the choices in '08&'12 also. I voted to keep barry out and will vote to keep hillary out, throwing away my vote on sunshine and rainbows just to " send a message" will not do that.
Was the last 4 years of barry's BS worth the " message" sent by the people who stayed home because they refused to vote for Romney? I don't think so.



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