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Unlike most folks here, I have never had a problem with polygamy (under any of its names). I haven't been looking for it in the Bible because it doesn't pertain to me, but I don't recall reading anything in the Bible that precludes it. Given the discussion that came up in another thread, I figured we ought to talk about it and put aside any personal bias and see what God has to say about it. Let's see if we can keep it biblical.

Now I had to use Google, because like I said...I've never run across anything in the Bible that explicitly forbids it as I have with other things that God considers sin. Here is a brief look at what I found: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/poly...the_bible.html

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Even though one can not possibly determine God’s will by examining the actions and behavior of man, or even God’s response to some of these actions, the major points made by pro-polygamists are

Examples of Biblical Polygamists: There are multiple historical accounts of Biblical polygamists. [Note there are only about eighteen specific examples of polygamy throughout the Old Testament, of which several clearly present polygamy in a negative light].

God gave David Saul’s Wives: The prophet Nathan speaking for God confronting David with the murder of Uriah the Hittite said that he (God) had given David Saul’s wives. [2 Samuel 12:8]

No Explicit Condemnation: Nowhere in the Bible does God explicitly condemn polygamy, the only "condemnation" being implicit and by example. In fact marriages to additional spouses are considered valid in the Scriptures (Jesus’ lineage did not always go through the first wife).

Regulation of Polygamy: Some laws in the Pentateuch do appear to place God’s stamp of approval on polygamy. For example note the rules and guidelines concerning the treatment of multiple wives (specifically prohibiting ill-treatment of the first wife after a second marriage) and the inheritance of the first born, if he happened to be the son of a less favored, wife.

"If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights, [Exodus 21:10]

If a man have two wives, the one beloved, and the other hated, and they have borne him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the first-born son be hers that was hated;

then it shall be, in the day that he causeth his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved the first-born before the son of the hated, who is the first-born: [Deuteronomy 21:15-17]
Having spent a portion of my life around poly folks (not Christian ones by any stretch of the imagination), I am taken aback by someone using Christianity to justify what even the poly community considers as the armpit of relationship types, and who wants to meet women half his age who are beautiful or above average in looks. Even so, it isn't the polygamy part that troubled me, it was more that the ad read like "ISO hot, bi, babe."

Although I have referenced the other thread, I really don't want this to be about a particular person or calling anyone out. Let's talk about polygamy and what God says about it, m'kay?
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Ephesians 5:22-33 speaks of the relationship between husbands and wives. When referring to a husband (singular), it always also refers to a wife (singular).
“For the husband is the head of the wife [singular] … He who loves his wife [singular] loves himself.
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [singular], and the two will become one flesh....Each one of you also must love his wife [singular] as he loves himself, and the wife [singular] must respect her husband [singular].”
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So was it acceptable before Christ died on the cross, and then became unacceptable after but someone forgot to write it down?
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know several poly families , daughter is poly just attended her hand fasting. (These aren't FLDS.)
If these adults and kids are happy and loved. Why does anyone care.
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There is always someone there for the kids and the kids are well behaved there are more eyes that actually have a vested interest in them.
Many hands make light work, stuff gets done.

Why is it anyone else's business
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know several poly families , daughter is poly just attended her hand fasting. (These aren't FLDS.)
If these adults and kids are happy and loved. Why does anyone care.
What I've observed
There is always someone there for the kids and the kids are well behaved there are more eyes that actually have a vested interest in them.
Many hands make light work, stuff gets done.

Why is it anyone else's business
Yes, but do you have any biblical support for or against? Everyone has an opinion and I care what all of you think, but what I'm really interested in is what God thinks about it and whether folks are basing their views of poly on the Bible, on their feelings, or on societal mores.
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Her husband is a Christian cleric I'll ask.
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I'm no Christian but didn't Paul say about leaders
They are the husband of one wife
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I'm no Christian but didn't Paul say about leaders
They are the husband of one wife
Yes, he did say that leaders in the church should be the husband to one wife. That doesn't seem to preclude others from having more than one wife, though...does it?
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Her husband is a Christian cleric I'll ask.
That's great! It would be interesting to have his take on it.
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Yes, he did say that leaders in the church should be the husband to one wife. That doesn't seem to preclude others from having more than one wife, though...does it?
Maybe, ain't we all kings and priest? Maybe we should all live like a leader and or priest
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Not Christian I generally believe with everything that goes on in this world that is Evil if God concentrates on what makes "his people " happy, instead of cleaning up these messes that are threatening "his people" he may need to readjust his priorities.

I texted him we'll see what he says.

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I find it to be no coincidence that God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve and Cindy and Stacy and Monica and Lafawnda....

One man and one woman is the way it has been since the beginning.
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Lilith God made Lilith,Adam then Eve.
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Lilith God made Lilith,Adam then Eve.

According to what Bible?
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According to what Bible?
The Talmud, and the story of Gilgamesh. Off the top of my head.
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The Talmud, and the story of Gilgamesh. Off the top of my head.
Which tractate in Talmud?
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For those who are interested in what the Catholic church has to say regarding this topic.


Other offenses against the dignity of marriage

2387 The predicament of a man who, desiring to convert to the Gospel, is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with whom he has shared years of conjugal life, is understandable. However polygamy is not in accord with the moral law." [Conjugal] communion is radically contradicted by polygamy; this, in fact, directly negates the plan of God which was revealed from the beginning, because it is contrary to the equal personal dignity of men and women who in matrimony give themselves with a love that is total and therefore unique and exclusive." The Christian who has previously lived in polygamy has a grave duty in justice to honor the obligations contracted in regard to his former wives and his children.



Having Posted this. If you believe in Sola Scriptura, and you can't you can't find a verse that explicitly condemns polygamy how can you condemn Christian polygamy?
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Talmud and Gilgamesh are not in my Bible, hence they are not the Word of God.
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Which tractate in Talmud?
Niddah 24 b
Reuben 100 b
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I have no problem with it morally though for the life of me I can't see why it's desirable. I've never been able to get along with one woman for any length of time, I sure as hell don't want a house full of them.
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