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Old 09-13-2019, 04:37 PM
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We have 3.5 acres of land, 1 goat, 2 dogs and 5 chickens and a creek behind us that runs into the Chattahoochee river so not concerned RIGHT NOW with fresh water but also curious about what we should stockpiling first food wise? I was thinking maybe when we buy can food to eat also buy some for the stockpile and also I wanted to ask about what's best what to stockpile fresh water? I can easily get 55 gallon drums that are clean but what else should I know?
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Old 09-13-2019, 04:50 PM
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The best fresh water to stockpile is the stuff that comes out of your tap. Even though you live near a river (as do I) it might not be safe to drink without a lot of purifying or just dangerous to make the trek there & back, so I'd stock some water 1st thing anyway. The avg person can only go ~3 days without water. Stock what you like to eat that has a good shelf life. While you can't stockpile milk, you can stockpile powdered milk, & other such staples.

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Surface water is easily contaminated, have ways to make it potable, long term. Be nice to have 2 or 3 weeks of water on hand so you don't have to go outside to get any.

Canned food you already buy and eat is a good choice. Rotate your stock, protect the cans from freezing and excessive heat. In tough times stuff with fats/oils will be nice. Stock up on sales.

Invest in some good vitamins/minerals and start taking them now.

Spices will be like gold, sea salt, cayenne, minced dried onion and garlic.

White rice and beans store well for years. Buy in bulk like 25 or 50 pound sacks. I just bought 2 sacks of brown rice $16/25# for the winter.


Learn to pressure can meat. I do chicken breast or pork loin for <$2/# any day of the week, on sales $1/#. Wide mouth quart will hold 1.75#.

If I get my elk, I'm canning a bunch of elk stew.

Buy some freeze dried meals for the BOB/GHB, 2 serving size is really an single serving.

Start working on skills and knowledge, they are the lightest things to carry on your back. Learn to fix and make stuff, some day there might not be a store or you have money to buy stuff with.

Have places to go by different means and paths. Easier to plan now than when the forest is on fire or the creeks is flooding.
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Stocking food is easy. Learning to rotate food stocks into you current diet to avoid spoilage is the tougher challenge IMO.
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Stockpile knowledge and skills. The more you know, the more you can do, the less stuff you need. IMO, YMMV
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Stockpile knowledge and skills. The more you know, the more you can do, the less stuff you need. IMO, YMMV
Skills let you know what you need and how much.


As for water...yep. I have months worth in my crawlspace, plumbed into my system so its always being rotated, filled, used ,etc.

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I also have surface water on my land. A year round creek and several springs. I bought a large (2,500 gal) storage tank at Tractor Supply anyway. When I built the new house, I added a second storage tank on the hill behind it.
For food storage, I started with rice and grains and canned foods we enjoy. I also started grinding my own whole wheat flour and baking sour dough bread. Then I started raising livestock and learned to butcher my own meat.
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Rethink water, it is the most important thing.
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Get on your county tax website and follow your creek upstream and see what/who are there. [google maps too].

Find out the rainfall/snowfall for your area of the county [county extension]. And the times of year it mostly occurs.

Calculate how much water you need [1 gallon drinking/cooking/cleaning per human, however much depending upon the size of your dogs and don't forget the chickens].

Go look at your hot water heater to see how much it holds. Divide that number by what you need per day. That is your present water supply -- ignoring bottled water, bottled drinks, etc.

Make your water decisions based on that starting line.

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Metal roof on chicken pen? Got a way to catch it and store it?

Metal roof on house/garage? Got a way to catch it and store it?

A downpour starts -- what do you have to put out to catch it and how much for say 1/2 of rain? [it is simple math if you want to figure using the standard 5 gallon bucket -- i.e. how many buckets to get enough water for 1 day, 2 days, 3 days, etc. from that 1/2 inch of rain.]

p.s. you still have to clean/purify the rain caught water.

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If you want to stockpile short term stuff think first about stuff with lots of liquid in it; canned fruits for example.
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Thank you all. I have a good year round supply of fresh water. Yes, it will still need to be purified in some manner. But, I have a supply for all my needs.
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Water as everyone advised is paramount. Have a water purifier for the creek water and you'll probably be ok if it gets contaminated.

For the least expensive basic food stockpile (depending on your family makeup) I'd get a few 5 gallon buckets of grain, beans and maybe dried milk (is your goat a meat goat or a milker?). Good starter items that will keep you fed for months. Add to it as you learn and have the money. Salt and sugar is cheap, stockpile enough for a year or two.
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Given plenty of water I would go with dehydrated grains and legumes along with the fuel to cook them
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Stockpile lots of food and water and a means to protect it.
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Anyway....when I very first started, I already had a lot of water 'stocked' because my water system is unique and only uses stored water.

But when it came to food, I started with rice.

Its very cheap.

It lasts for a long time even without mylar and 02 absorbers....(which of course make it last much much longer)

And because fairly small amounts of things added to rice can make good meals.

One chicken could be dinner for a night, one chicken with rice could be chicken and rice variations for several days.

A can of diced tomatoes won't make a meal....a can of diced tomatoes and a cup of rice, maybe a few green beans from the garden and an egg or two from the chickens...you get the idea.

Get a five gallon bucket of rice and one of beans and you have a lot of food value for less than $100. Its not complete but it can go a long way if you already have a pantry with some canned goods, spices, salt etc in it.

At this point my prepping has moved far beyond rice but it is an easy and cheap way to get a few months food security when you are starting.
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Stockpile fresh tap water. You can put a little treatment like plain bleach (just a drop per gallon) in. Rotate regularly.

I just drank a few swallows of some similarly stored tap water from at least 5 years old/ago. Tasted fine. Stored in plastic jugs. May not be perfect long-term healthwise but would do in a pinch for survival.

As for food, stock variety of stuff that you normally eat that will last long term. Rotate often.
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[QUOTE=MeTarzan;19773416]Stocking food is easy. Learning to rotate food stocks into you



It's possible because I've been doing that since 1970. Get a flour grinder that will grind beans, and has a hand grinding attachment. With flour made from bean, rice and many kinds of grain you can make cereal in 10 minutes. Last trip to COSTCO, I purchased $40 worth of canned chicken. I stay ahead on canned salmon and replenish both each 3-month trip to that store. I don't hunt or can game but have in my younger days and I used that a lot.

For breakfast, to get your family liking it, you can cook oatmeal with water until it is done (10 minutes or less) and then add powdered, not instant, milk and it will lump at first, but keep stirring. Still not real tasty but if you add some commercial flavored Greek yogurt, and a sweetener like sugar, agave syrup, honey, etc., it will be as tasty as ice cream. Gradually stop using the flavored yogurt and replace with canned fruit.

With a small pressure cooker, you can nearly always cook your beans. Try all kinds of spices because without spices they aren't that tasty and kids won't eat the stuff, but to the bean soup you can drop in gobs of dumpling mix (flour, water of milk, misc. flavoring like the garlic you had better have a lot of in your beans.), maybe a bit of oil and baking powder, and you will have beans and dumplings. With a big pot of beans you can drop more dumpling mix in as needed. You can also have fruit and dumplings and have a pot of mixed fruit cooking all day to help warm the house in winter. And kids like to help making and dropping the dumplings into the soup, as well as eating the dumplings
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Whatever you store, be sure to practice with it. This is especially true if you haven't cooked with that item before. I used to not like or know know to cook white rice or dry beans. Then I was shown how beans should taste when cooked properly. Since then I have practiced a lot with cooking them. I probably have half a dozen go to ways to cook good white rice, and close to a hundred ways to cook pinto beans. We probably eat beans and rice 2-4 times a week on average and sometimes a lot more. In that time my family has become used to beans and rice and actually enjoys it.
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Build a well, so you don't have to stockpile water. Get another goat ( male), so they can reproduce and provide meat and milk. Stockpile things that won't be available and you can't make or grow, but will need. Food, I would stockpile grains. You can't grow rice, or wheat most likely. Learn to grow a garden, stockpile seeds , fertilizer, tools you will need.
Figure out some way to run some refrigeration without the grid. I think that's a very important one.
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I found the gardening is a primary concern, my efforts are into aquaponics. gardening using fish .both complement one another and are both eatables.
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The only way I would recommend a food stockpile is for anything that you can't grow in a garden. If you are just getting one started, I would have canned things for interim between harvests.

If you are able to, I would learn how to do canning preservation too so you can do that with what is too much to eat for you and your tribe to add to the stockpile.

Another recommendation would be to have ways to sanitize water for consumption, just in case - but those may have expiration dates.

I would likely also slowly get bandaids, gauze, and other health-related products together as possible since a SHTF will likely not make a doctor visit possible. So I would add to this at least basic medical skills or get a doctor in your tribe.

Books would be good too. I have seen suggestions for this for knowledge and entertainment, however, I would also recommend getting those trashy romance novels at library book sales, thrift store sales, or garage sales as they should work better than leaves once you run out of toilet paper.

Happy Prepping,
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