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Old 09-15-2019, 03:01 PM
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I don't believe that it is entirely ignorance and stupidity.

I believe there are three distinct species of democrats:

conniving manipulative schemers with an agenda
useful idiots
clueless votes for cash

the fact that the NYT Bailed on Failure with the recent "some airplanes did a thing" indicates beyond doubt that the Conniving schemers know full well that if they carried on with that line of reasoning we would rightfully compare that nonsense with "gun violence"

you will never get a liberal to read through this. they don't have the intellectual honesty to read things that do not reinforce their world view

https://www.firearmstalk.com/threads...ndment.115728/
How do you protect yourself from tyranny within?

Say the Muslim brotherhood legally and quite rightly forms a milita but for some reason it turns a bit sour when they realize they can push people around.

What is in place to prevent that?
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:19 PM
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PotteryBoy, We can fight back! What can your unarmed but do? Throw kangaroos at them?
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PotteryBoy, We can fight back! What can your unarmed but do? Throw kangaroos at them?


I think you’re forgetting one thing:

They have access to Fully Semi-Automatic Milk crates. So there’s that.
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Eugene stoner didn't "choose" the AR for the military. In fact the AR-15 was the answer to the Army rejecting the AR-10 cause they wanted to switch to the smaller caliber, so stoner shrunk the AR-10 down & got the AR-15.

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The .223/5.56 is essentially a varmint round. Otherwise why all the research into making it MORE effective on heavier targets? Why was the .223 not allowed in many states for deer hunting?

The army wanted a light rifle and light ammo. That's what they got.

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A push in the late 1950s toward a lightweight rifle with lightweight ammunition led to the adoption of the 5.56mm, based on the .223 Remington round, typically used for small game or varmint hunting in the United States.

At the time, the lightweight, high-velocity rounds were considered more accurate, causing more devastating wounds from the tumbling of the round and fragments, and an effect known as “hydrostatic shock” — though a number of critics have since disputed both assumptions.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...-lot-deadlier/

The new big thing is the 6.8
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The .223/5.56 is essentially a varmint round. Otherwise why all the research into making it MORE effective on heavier targets? Why was the .223 not allowed in many states for deer hunting?

The army wanted a light rifle and light ammo. That's what they got.



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...-lot-deadlier/

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None of that refutes anything I said. Eugene Stoner did NOT pick the AR as the military's new rifle & he did not invent the round & the military DID select the new round. Yes it was so they could carry more ammo as compared to 308/7.62, but that wasn't the point. Now someone else can come along & post even more information about the AR family that also more than likely has nothing to do with what I was addressing.

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None of that refutes anything I said. Eugene Stoner did NOT pick the AR as the military's new rifle & he did not invent the round & the military DID select the new round. Yes it was so they could carry more ammo as compared to 308/7.62, but that wasn't the point. Now someone else can come along & post even more information about the AR family that also more than likely has nothing to do with what I was addressing.

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Huh?

Not trying to refute what you said. I agree with what you said.
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Say the Muslim brotherhood legally and quite rightly forms a milita but for some reason it turns a bit sour when they realize they can push people around.

What is in place to prevent that?
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On what planet does this make sense? what the huh? are you asking, and why are you asking me?
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How do you protect yourself from tyranny within?

Say the Muslim brotherhood legally and quite rightly forms a milita but for some reason it turns a bit sour when they realize they can push people around.

What is in place to prevent that?
Armed citizens, the Second amendment, Castle Doctrine laws, "stand your ground" laws and the fact that it is illegal for a militia group to "push people around". That is, in the US.
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I've always though we should push the name, 'sport utility rifle'.
And this my friend is why I am glad I keep you around!
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:07 AM
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PotteryBoy, We can fight back! What can your unarmed but do? Throw kangaroos at them?
We have these guys who are like the milita but have a tests to make sure they are not screaming nut cases.

We call them the military.

You know actual soldiers who protect the country. Rather than cosplay soldiers.
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We have these guys who are like the milita but have a tests to make sure they are not screaming nut cases.

We call them the military.

You know actual soldiers who protect the country. Rather than cosplay soldiers.
And who protects you from them, once the gov’t labels you as the enemy and sends them after you?

Or maybe not you, but your grandkids, or theirs.

You can’t predict the future government will be benevolent, no matter how wonderful you think they are now.

But based on history, we can almost certainly predict, at some point in the future, it will cease to be so. And sometimes, that can be awesome in its depravity. Just ask the Jews. Or the Armenians. The Chinese. The Russians. Or the South Africans of European descent.

You SURE you trust the guys with the guns to be on your side, every time, forever? Lots of people have died when that was proven to be the lie.
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AR's are 'military grade weapons'. That is the exact definition of what is protected under the 2nd A.

The 'Rats are demonstrating why the 2ndA was deemed necessary.
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The public should have military grade weapons. The inordinate cost for licensing to get a fully automatic belt fed is unconstitutional in my mind.
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They don't care .
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:15 AM
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We have these guys who are like the milita but have a tests to make sure they are not screaming nut cases.

We call them the military.

You know actual soldiers who protect the country. Rather than cosplay soldiers.
And who protects you from them, once the gov’t labels you as the enemy and sends them after you?

Or maybe not you, but your grandkids, or theirs.

You can’t predict the future government will be benevolent, no matter how wonderful you think they are now.

But based on history, we can almost certainly predict, at some point in the future, it will cease to be so. And sometimes, that can be awesome in its depravity. Just ask the Jews. Or the Armenians. The Chinese. The Russians. Or the South Africans of European descent.

You SURE you trust the guys with the guns to be on your side, every time, forever? Lots of people have died when that was proven to be the lie.
Ironically the queen and by her appointment the governor General. Who is tasked with defending the constitution.

https://www.gg.gov.au/about-governor...vernor-general

So a trained, responsible and accountable person tasked with defending the constitution. Someone who at the very least understands the very complicated legal document he is defending.

This guy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hurley

Who by the way when tasked with incorporating women in to combat roles decided on a single standard rather than a gender standard.

https://youtu.be/U0mgaGPaA34



Now if we wanted to base things on history. A government that works is more influential on freedom than an armed population.

E.g.. Mogadishu, Syria, the DRC.
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I take it none of you are in Florida or any of the other states that have implemented "Red Flag Laws". The Liberals have shown their hand.... outright confiscation... they arent even bothering with deception...
I have to be honest. I'm horrified. The authoritative and indisputable nature of these laws terrifies me. Someone you may or may not know goes to Law Enforcement and tells them you own guns and you may be a danger to yourself and others... the first you hear about it is when the SWAT team shows up at 4am to take your firearms AND ammunition. At some point in the distant future if you are able to PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE maybe you will get your guns back... minus AR15's and "high capacity mags" that have been banned... also... you ammunition is destroyed. You do not get it back...
Causing me even more grief is that my brother is on the SWAT team. I know many will say that he should know better than to violate constitutional rights.. but they are not given the specifics of the case... they are given directions... at the same time I cant blame citizens that choose to stand up to tyrrany... gun confiscation... especially absent DUE PROCESS... is tyranny...
These are truly sad times...
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We have these guys who are like the milita but have a tests to make sure they are not screaming nut cases.

We call them the military.

You know actual soldiers who protect the country. Rather than cosplay soldiers.
You're on the right track my man.. but "militia" refers to a group that would operate within a state or at least the nation. The military does not "deploy" inside the US. Now the National Gaurd does under certain conditions... but the group tasked with "protecting" us as citizens is Law Enforcement... you know.... like the guy who hid outside of Parkland High School as a single 19 year old degenerate slaughtered dozens of kids... people like him "protect" us.
Which is why we need access to weapons that THEY have access to so we can defend ourselves when they fail to do their JOB.
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I sent a message to David Muir for his misleading use of the term AR type weapon on World News With David Muir. Maybe if everyone sent him a complaint it would do something. I included this quote in my message;
The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” ... Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.
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I sent a message to David Muir for his misleading use of the term AR type weapon on World News With David Muir. Maybe if everyone sent him a complaint it would do something. I included this quote in my message;
The “AR” in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. “AR” does NOT stand for “assault rifle” or “automatic rifle.” AR-15-style rifles are NOT “assault weapons” or “assault rifles.” ... Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression the MSM either cares to report the truth, or what you think of their agenda. They are an enemy of freedom. If you are pro-freedom, you are there enemy. Would you take advice from your enemy in the middle of a war? The less people tune in & click on MSM outlets, the less weight their main weapon (the size of their megaphone) will carry.

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You seem to be under the mistaken impression the MSM either cares to report the truth, or what you think of their agenda. They are an enemy of freedom. If you are pro-freedom, you are there(sic) enemy. Would you take advice from your enemy in the middle of a war? The less people tune in & click on MSM outlets, the less weight their main weapon (the size of their megaphone) will carry.

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Not really, but venting a bit and calling them out helps me.
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