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Old 09-06-2019, 03:54 PM
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Imagine a story where most of the people die off very quickly. There are very few survivors and very little competition for resources.

Our hero grabs lock picks, wrecking bar, battering ram and several bottles of Oxygen and Acetylene and goes to salvage a nearby military base.

Now here is my main question:

Will our hero find any M-16s or have they all been converted into M-4s and ruined? An M-4 is good only for parts—or maybe hero might encounter an aftermarket upper receiver and full-length barrel.

Do any of the MPs still use S&W or Ruger .38s? I wouldn't drive to Fort Campbell or Fort Knox to pick up a dozen .38s, but if I was already there…

Are there still a few of the old M-3 Greaseguns stored in the company armories? There was in the early 80s…

What is the US Army's current sniper rifle?

I know that the Navy SEALs use the .50 caliber sniper rifles. Would you find any on a US Army base?

M-60s and M-2s are of marginal utility for a lone survivor.

Grenades, Claymores and LAW Rockets might come in handy.

Can anyone think of anything else salvageable that might come in handy for a lone survivor that might be found on a US Army base?

Yeah, beaucoup ammo and beaucoup M-16 and Beretta magazines.

{I can take parkerized Berettas or leave them—but I might come across a nickeled Beretta or I might become bored enough to refinish a few.}

Yeah field rations, wool blankets, clothing, field medicine, TMs, FMs…..

I'm thinking more about weapons at the moment…

Thanks.

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Old 09-06-2019, 04:03 PM
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Old 09-06-2019, 05:11 PM
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Why not just let it grow as you write?

Personally, I am over the AR15/M16/M4... I'm more of a .308 person now
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:37 PM
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side point. How severe a die off? 1 out of 100 surviving? 1 out of 1,000 surviving? 1 out of 10,000? 1 out of 100,000?

How many on the base? [including civilians?]? How many in the surrounding area [say within 30 miles]? How many people might have the same idea?

[if plenty of resources, why need heavy fire power? Just pick up a heavily armored vehicle or tank, fill it up, attach a fuel tank behind it and leave. Or even more logically, pick out a spot and stay.]

[I'd head for farmland or a ranch or dairy if given a choice of any of those and a military base].

[yes, I know it doesn't fit your plot. Just saying.]

[side point: most of that stuff will still be there in 6 months or even 6 years....]
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Fuel, food, meds. I don't need their weapons or ammo. Claymores can be nice. I like the smell of C-4 heating coffee in the morning.

Be fun to have a dial a yield device like a W88 as a door stop.
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WHERE have you been, man? I have MISSED seeing your stories here!
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On weapons:

Nickeled pistols? not a chance, at least not in the armories.

The new M-2 .50's had the same quick barrel detach system as the 240 bravo, so no timing gauge needed.

All the medium MG's were 240 bravos, the only folks to still use M-60's are some flavors of SF types. Same belts, though.

The Army was using the SR-25 and M-24 sniper rifle when I was active, both .308, could find Barrett .50's in the HHC Co. armories for the scout platoon.

All the duty rifle I saw were M-4 types. ( rifle length gas tubes have to have rifle length buffer tubes/weights, so don't think you can mix and match. I might be wrong, though.)

Shotguns were Mossberg 590's.

Never saw any grease guns, but did see a few M-14's, very few mags for them, though.

All ammo is stored across the base in storage bunkers.

Mag pouches would be in the soldiers barracks in their issued kit, same for body armor.

Hope this helps, GOOD to see you back!
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I imagine police stations would have surplus weapons like m16s. After the north hollywood shoot out lapd got hundreds of surplus m16s.
Every so often you hear of cops selling old classics like thompsons for big bucks.
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HOW FASt is the die off?

If it is fast enough that everyone sees it is all coming apart,
The shelves would be fairly empty because the folks who work there would be shopping for their own needs before you get a chance at them. Same for cop shops.

To coin a phrase in other vernacular,,
IT would be nothing but seeds and stems.
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