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Old 08-30-2019, 09:41 PM
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Dig a little deeper and you'll find that HRC was running those munitions through Arkansas to Bengazi... in secret and in violation of the law.

clearly you are only doing this to bash Trump..

I answered your questions... now I'm simply gonna put you on Ignore.

In fact everyone should simply put you on ignore.


Stick to prepping and bushcraft.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:49 PM
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Failed.


I spent 3+ hours on the phone with DFAS today about my retirement pay.
Spent time getting jerked around on the phone with the VA.
Time getting jerked around on email from my senators aide.
And time wasted by the VA at the VA.

0 Accomplished.

All about normal, but usually not stacked quite so close.

Failed past tense. Nobody cares about veterans.
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It is important also to remember that Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and others made their living attacking President Obama for policies they disagreed with, or worse.

Liberals tend to misdirect what conservatives do, say and mean. While conservative speakers did, on occasion, speak out against various Obama policies, the main purpose of conservative speakers is to point out the BLATANT errors of the leftist/socialist/Democrat party. In other words, point out how most Americans have PTSD or are Pretty Tired of Stupid Democrats. About 99% of what Limbaugh and the others do is directed at the Democrats and was not just aimed at the narcissistic Obama. One can almost imagine Obama standing in front of a mirror, talking to himself about how Hannity or Limbaugh mentioned him, Obama, again today.

Unlike liberals, conservatives have a sense of humor. Humor is based off of the truth.
Enjoy the truth:
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Thanks for the discussion guys. I do not want you to think I am avoiding you, but we are headed to northern wisconsin for the holiday, and we do not have internet at the cabin. I will be home monday night depending on traffic.

Have a great holiday. Again, thank you.
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The debate between Obama and Trump really comes down to one simple thing.

I've asked many Obama supporters to name one good thing Obama did for the country. Not five, not ten, just one. And not just for his constituents. For the good of the country. I only get two responses. Either it's the deer in the headlights look, or a reply something like, "Well there must be something."

It's easy to see what Trump has done for the country and economy. He's slain many sacred cows that were bleeding our country dry. His list is easily over one hundred actions long.

When we talk about patriotism, please keep in mind what patriotism is. A patriotic president is one who loves his country, seeks to improve life for all its citizens, and seeks to improve the country's position in the world relative to all others. It's not an apology tour, and it's not about forcing transgender bathroom rights on everyone else. Obama may have been a very good teleprompter reader, while Trump thinks out loud too much and Tweets (neither of which are admirable qualities), but there is no question about Trump's feelings for his country. Obama acted as if our entire history was an embarrassment.

So which president would you call patriotic? The one who thought everything needed to change, or the one who thinks everything that's broken should be fixed?
The most patriotic is the one that did not say to Vladimir Putin on a hot mike that: "I will have more flexibility after the election" !!!! Where was the 'collusion delusion' then???????
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Failed past tense. Nobody cares about veterans.
It's shameful that we throw billions of dollars down the crapper on foreign aid and wasteful military spending, but we ignore our veterans.

This is one of the reasons I am so against military interventions. Our service members need to take a good hard look at the risks they are taking vs. the actual benefits to the American people. More often than not, these conflicts are not about "protecting our freedom." Corporate profiteering is not worth losing a leg over, especially when the VA is going to treat you worse than an illegal alien.
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It used to be that we held our President to a standard of truth, at least when he spoke to us. ?
If you like the healthcare insurance you have now - You can keep it.


Which Obozo said that whopper with a straight face?
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If you like the healthcare insurance you have now - You can keep it.


Which Obozo said that whopper with a straight face?
One thing I must say. Odumbo was the absolute best liar I have ever seen,
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Other than Obumer was a "manmade disaster" why is this troll's thread here?
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How is it that people that I thought of as solid patriots have simply become lapdogs?

How is it that dissent is not patriotic now,
1) Ideologues are a problem on both sides. And, yes, the left is worse. Read the Gulag Archipelago and report back what you've learned about ideologues.

2) Dissent is fine. Ideological dissent is considered problematic. Once again, look to the demonization of the white nationalists (patriots, both left and right) as an ideological issue driven by the media. I'm white and love my country and that's a problem?

Republicans NEVER owned slaves and were NEVER members of the KKK. Yet the left wants us to believe that the parties have switched. That's provably false.

And don't get me started on Mother Earth lashing out against humans due to our behavior. (a classic religious tenet, man sins and god strikes back)
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This president has made a mockery of this great nation,has criticize our government,has insulted woman,has been lying from the start,has sided with the likes of Putin,Ki ,has embrace the butcher of N.Korea and to top it all,has called the Free World press ,the enemy of the people.All the great dictators have done the same.All the filth in the USA is coming out like maggots to spread hate and bigotry do to his euphoric hate and the sad part is that many still find this filthy president great,those many probably attend church hand in hand with their children,sad.
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This president has made a mockery of this great nation,has criticize our government,has insulted woman,has been lying from the start,has sided with the likes of Putin,Ki ,has embrace the butcher of N.Korea and to top it all,has called the Free World press ,the enemy of the people.All the great dictators have done the same.All the filth in the USA is coming out like maggots to spread hate and bigotry do to his euphoric hate and the sad part is that many still find this filthy president great,those many probably attend church hand in hand with their children,sad.

Hope you get into some Therapy and someone reports this as a Read Flag!.
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This president has made a mockery of this great nation,has criticize our government,has insulted woman,has been lying from the start,has sided with the likes of Putin,Ki ,has embrace the butcher of N.Korea and to top it all,has called the Free World press ,the enemy of the people.All the great dictators have done the same.All the filth in the USA is coming out like maggots to spread hate and bigotry do to his euphoric hate and the sad part is that many still find this filthy president great,those many probably attend church hand in hand with their children,sad.
Are you trolling or really stupid enough to believe this?
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I vote stupid enough.... but audit his recent comments to confirm. He’s a cradle to grave minion.
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This president has embrace the butcher of N.Korea
On this point, you are 100% correct. [sarcasm] I'm ashamed of Trump because he chooses diplomacy and won't fight with N Korea. I prefer to nuke the innocents there and start WW-III with a massive preemptive radioactive strike. [sarcasm]

Reality: I thank God every day we are not fighting with N Korea. I hope one day they become reasonable like South Korea.
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Don't care.

The administration and the media are setting a precedent that all current and future administrations and themselves (the media) should be viewed as a cross between a really terribly produced reality TV show, a third world police procedural show, The Shield and the movie Network all rolled into one hilariously bad package.

Rarely do you see 2 such respected institutions work so furiously to de-legitimize themselves. Its funny though, I do give it that.
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Hellion, that is a good point. That is what I was sort of going for, and obviously never got to.
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I have one thing to say to the OP. "There are none so blind as those that just wont see"!
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1. He isn't attacking, he's defending.


2. He's president. He has a little leeway when it comes to who he meets, when he meets and what the agenda of discussion is about. We aren't at liberty to know every GD thing he does... deal with it.


3. He's an *******, I agree... but I'm not paying him to be our friend. As long as he can do the job, he can be a prick. In my eyes, the economy has improved and things are getting better. The ****ing media and all the anti-trump **** is just slowing us down.
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As soon as I saw you were referencing CNN and NBC as 'proof' of your claims, I read no further......you liberals never cease to amaze me.
Me too!

Using the Fake News media as evidence of anything is beyond reasonable.

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS are tabloid news and nothing more than extensions of the DNC.

I can't even imagine going onto a liberal platform as using Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and what they say as evidence.

It's like when a Liberal talks about "Sensible Gun Control" and everyone rolls their eyes. It simply has no credibility with rational America.
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