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The President has assured his subordinates that if they have to break the law to get the wall built faster, he'd pardon them.

Are you okay with this?
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Absolutely not.
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Depends upon the situation. If its a liberal Obama Judge that issues a BS injunction, I am perfectly fine with Trump issuing a pardon for any contempt charge if the injunction is ignored. If they are burning down houses that are in the way without any due process, then not ok with it.

Pardons are part of the checks and balances the Executive Branch has on the Judicial Branch to curb judicial abuse.
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No. The train wreck just keeps on going.
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Fake news citing fake news.

Hey, whatever works as the left would say.
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If Pharoah wants a wall, so shall it be done.

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Depends upon the situation. If its a liberal Obama Judge that issues a BS injunction, I am perfectly fine with Trump issuing a pardon for any contempt charge if the injunction is ignored. If they are burning down houses that are in the way without any due process, then not ok with it.
I don't think you get to pick and choose.
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I would not be fine with it at all, but I doubt it's true, either.
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I don't think you get to pick and choose.
So pardoning someone because a judge is using his position to further his political leanings is the same as pardoning someone for murder?
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So pardoning someone because a judge is using his position to further his political leanings is the same as pardoning someone for murder?
Yes, because it thwarts the looney leftist agenda to destroy this nation.
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Depends upon the situation. If its a liberal Obama Judge that issues a BS injunction, I am perfectly fine with Trump issuing a pardon for any contempt charge if the injunction is ignored. If they are burning down houses that are in the way without any due process, then not ok with it.

Pardons are part of the checks and balances the Executive Branch has on the Judicial Branch to curb judicial abuse.
This, 100% agreement here.
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So pardoning someone because a judge is using his position to further his political leanings is the same as pardoning someone for murder?
What the hell are you talking about???

I'm not talking about that! I'm talking about the President giving permission to break laws with the promise of pardons for those who do! You are either okay with it or not!

I've been here for quite some time. I thought you knew me at least a little!
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What the hell are you talking about???

I'm not talking about that! I'm talking about the President giving permission to break laws with the promise of pardons for those who do! You are either okay with it or not!

I've been here for quite some time. I thought you knew me at least a little!
He is talking about picking and choosing. IMO, it is perfectly ok for Trump to pardon someone who told a leftist judge to get bent and ignored his injunction. I agree with Jdog.
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From a Fox affiliate in Seattle. Gee, I wonder which way they lean? If it's anything like the Fox affiliate in Baltimore they might as well be CNN.

I'm calling Fake News.
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What the hell are you talking about???

I'm not talking about that! I'm talking about the President giving permission to break laws with the promise of pardons for those who do! You are either okay with it or not!

I've been here for quite some time. I thought you knew me at least a little!
Well, every time Trump tries to get something done, a liberal judge issues a stop order. I think Trump is saying he expects this behaviour to continue, and will protect those that override obvious judicial over-reach actions to thwart progress.
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He is talking about picking and choosing. IMO, it is perfectly ok for Trump to pardon someone who told a leftist judge to get bent and ignored his injunction. I agree with Jdog.
I hope you remember this when future Presidents pardon lawbreakers that forward their own pet projects against the decisions of judges.
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Well, every time Trump tries to get something done, a liberal judge issues a stop order. I think Trump is saying he expects this behaviour to continue, and will protect those that override obvious judicial over-reach actions to thwart progress.
So you want Presidents to use the power of the pardon to bypass judges that try to hinder them? Seems like a dangerous power to me.
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So you want Presidents to use the power of the pardon to bypass judges that try to hinder them? Seems like a dangerous power to me.
Well, these are corrupt judges. The right answer is to remove them.
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So you want Presidents to use the power of the pardon to bypass judges that try to hinder them? Seems like a dangerous power to me.
Activist judges making political decisions instead of following the Constitution scares me more. The president is well within the scope of his powers to build defenses on the southern border. Never before in our history would anyone have questioned the Commander and Chief's Constitutional power to defend the border. This is political. Judges are supposed to follow the law not politics.
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