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Does anybody know if there is a simple way to protect a new car from an electromagnetic pulse?

I do have a brick garage and a metal pole barn with a cement floor.

Thanks, I am getting more and more concerned about what the "little rocket man"(Kim Jong Un) is capable of doing to put us all in harms way.

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Here are some similar threads.

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The brick garage will stand up to a low altitude blast better, but the Pole Barn will provide better shilding from a high altitude EMP. The cement floor is an issue, only because it is also a hole in the Faraday Cage. Gaps between the steel panels is also an issue, not air gaps, but electrical continuity gaps.

The most common answer will be to have replacemnt parts. In new electronic cars, that means everything.

Do you already have the vehicle, or are you looking at buying something? Year and make would help people provide comments.

Go for nastalga. Get an old air cooled VW Bug with a clutch. Maybe you can find a convertable in mint condition. That would cost less than all the replacment parts for the new car. An old pickup truck with points and condensor might also fit you needs.
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Does anybody know if there is a simple way to protect a new car from an electromagnetic pulse?

I do have a brick garage and a metal pole barn with a cement floor.

Thanks, I am getting more and more concerned about what the "little rocket man"(Kim Jong Un) is capable of doing to put us all in harms way.

Thanks
There is no simple way. A new car would be extremely expensive to take apart and rebuild with EMP protection in mind. Just trying to add a few things will not work. Getting spare parts can work, but all must be protected. And computer components usually have to be flashed/programed for the specific vehicle before storage.

A Faraday cage garage can be built fairly easi6without too much extra expense. Retro fitting one can be done but is more expensive. I am on my tablet at the moment, but will post an EMP resistant garage/pole barn design when I am on line with my laptop.

Just my opinion.
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I don't see foil in the wheel wells. All of the bottom must be covered also.
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Does anybody know if there is a simple way to protect a new car from an electromagnetic pulse?

I do have a brick garage and a metal pole barn with a cement floor.

Thanks, I am getting more and more concerned about what the "little rocket man"(Kim Jong Un) is capable of doing to put us all in harms way.

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My advice is to forget about the little rocket man. He's a far bigger threat to S. Korea than us right now.

The U.S. has the capability of shooting down a limited number of ICBMs, which I doubt the little vermin even has.
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I love it when new people show up and immediately start threads without even considering that their question has probably been asked before. 9111315, you are to be commended for taking the time to research and post the litany of threads that already exist on this subject.

And Jerry, thank you for doing what I cannot... provide an eloquent and complete response in spite of the above. Bravo gentlemen, bravo.
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Well there hasn't been any studies with modern cars and their susceptibility to an EMP that I know of.
I have seen a modern car subjected to an artificial lightning strike and it fared pretty well.
Yes I know lightning isn't an EMP, but it does show how well a car may survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6XGKZxYxA

Here is a scholarly article on A Comparison of Lightning Electromagnetic Fields with the Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse

This is just the abstract, the whole thing costs money.

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The electromagnetic fields produced by both direct lightning strikes and nearby lightning are compared with the nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NEMP) from an exoatmospheric burst. Model calculations indicate that, in the frequency range from 104 to near 107 Hz, the Fourier amplitude spectra of the return stroke magnetic fields near ground 1 m from an average lightning strike will exceed that of the NEMP. Nearby first return strokes at a range of about 50 m, if they are severe, produce electric-field spectra near ground which exceed that of the NEMP below about 106 Hz, while the spectra of average nearby first return strokes exceed that of the NEMP below about 3 x 105 Hz.
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Oh really not a problem. The internal search is not very robust.

I should have also pointed out that google will find threads on this site. Just enter your normal search term followed by "site:survivalistboards.com" in the google search bar.

So, for an "EMP" search, use the following for a google search

emp site:survivalistboards.com

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emp proof new car site:survivalistboards.com
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I drive new auto's...... and own old motorcycles.

The "brain" of a carbureted motorcycle costs about $75. I just keep some extras in a FC.

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If an EMP hits...you gonna have bigger problems than just your new car is dead.....
Why worry about the car
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If an EMP hits...you gonna have bigger problems than just your new car is dead.....
Why worry about the car
Because it very well could save my life, depending on the total results of the EMP attack. And EMP does not simply result in there not being commercial electricity available.

Just my opinion.
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Because it very well could save my life, depending on the total results of the EMP attack. And EMP does not simply result in there not being commercial electricity available.

Just my opinion.
Right as always Jerry.

The other point that I think should be made here is that there are so many variables involved with EMP that it's impossible to 'know' what would happen. A single device, for instance, even under ideal conditions, seems very unlikely to result in a blackout of the entire U.S. and fry every non-EMP protected vehicle in the country.

The intensity of the EMP, the location of the device used to set it off, the precise reactions of different types of electronic equipment to it, and many other factors are simply unknown. Starfish gave us some insight into this, but we still have limited practical knowledge of this phenomenon. Much of our 'knowledge' of EMP is theoretical, and we all know the limitations of that.
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Bury it surrounded in hardware cloth... It needs to be well grounded
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I'd park in the metal pole barn and hope for the best. It will provide at least some immunity.
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I know it's not the same but just for info I had a 15 Tahoe this week towed in to the shop. Battery dead. wouldn't jump start. Found battery had a bad cell, also 175A battery block fuse blown. Replaced both, ok, well not really. Had no p/s(electric) and abs/brake lamp on in dash. Apparently the road side genius GM sent out attempted to hook up the battery backwards. Finally figured the BCM was bad internally. Point is these newer vehicles are extremely susceptible to voltage spikes. Too many interconnecting systems and modules. I would guess to say an emp would completely make a newer vehicle useless unless you have enough preprogrammed modules specifically for the vehicle.
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I live at my BOL so I don’t really worry too much about it.

I truly think that driving around after an EMP would just make you a target.

If my tractor work - great.

If it doesn’t I have a come along.

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My car would be a goner.

But my 1979 Dodge B200 camper van would be good to go.
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I actually looked at the older posts but there was nothing I read that was definitive, so I thought I would ask again.

I know there may not be a simple answer????
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