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The real scary part is that all these nuclear geniuses don't have a clue what the consequences are. On top of that, if anything does happen that points to Fukushima, these fools are going to be the first ones to deny, deny, deny. This is what the government pays these idiots to do!

The government finds clueless idiots to run these programs, thick glasses, pocket protectors, no idea their radiation detectors are pinned at maximum.

Let's face it, the folks at Fukushima likely got the new meter because the needles on the old ones kept breaking and they exhausted the supply. Calibrating for "background" was also pinned at maximum.

Now look back at Masao Yoshida who died of esophageal cancer on July 10 2013. Tepco claims that type of cancer takes 5-10 years to develop. The authorities claim the "rapid onset" of the condition means that it could not have been related to the reactor incident!

It must have been little green men...

Don't anybody worry if the "background" starts going up. All deaths are inevitable and unrelated to an event located so far away.

If the guy in charge of the accident dies of a death unrelated to the reactor incident, what are the odds any casualties will ever be awarded to Fukushima? None! Nuclear reactors have a perfect safety record! Radiation is low (because our meters are broken anyway).
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One of the ways Japan "deals" with the radiation is to simply redefine what is "safe." This video systemically and logically disproves what Japan has recently decided to call "safe" levels of radiation for children:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywKv0dj3UuY

Japan also now allows levels of radiation in their foodstuffs that no one else does (boldface is mine):

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As stated above, there is no safe level of radioactivity in food and drinking water. Potentially, even the
slightest amount of radioactivity can cause genetic mutation and cancer. According to the German
Society for Radiation Protection, it is estimated that a person is normally exposed to about 0.3 mSv
per year through ingestion of food and drink. This should be considered the permissible level of
ingested radioactivity in order to prevent excessive health risks. In order not to surpass this level, the
amount of radioactive caesium-137 should not exceed 8 Bq/kg in milk and baby formula and 16 Bq/kg
in all other foodstuff. Radioactive iodine with its short half-life should not be permitted in food at all. In
Japan however, the permissible level of radioactive caesium in milk and baby formula was set at 200
Bq/kg and 500 Bq/kg for all other foodstuff. For radioactive iodine, the permissible level was set at 300
Bq/kg for milk and drinking water and 2,000 Bq/kg for vegetables.
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"Fukushima radiation levels '18 times higher' than thought"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23918882

Pretty much what it says. Better measurements by Tepco shows the latest leak from that underground storage tank is MUCH hotter than first reported. This isn't good.

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That's twice in this thread that you have reassured us that the radionuclides will stay in Japan. Can you give us some explanation as to why that would be?

Specifically, if 4 burns or explodes while attempting to remove the fuel, why would the volatized result not rise into the atmosphere and ride the jet stream right over to my house?
Or after they dump Cs137 in heretofore unimaginable amounts into the Pacific Ocean, why will it not eventually make its way to the west coast? The debris from the tsunami sure did.
First of all, you're mixing apples and oranges in talking about atmospheric and oceanic situations at the same time. The jet stream starts at around 20,000 feet; it's going to take an AWFULLY big explosion to hurl radioactively contaminated particles high enough for them to reach that level. Some at ground level might be picked up by wind, get involved in wild weather, and be carried that high through updrafts; but it is far far far more likely any explosion will scatter radioactive materials horizontally instead of vertically, where it will stay. That's been the pattern so far; the area around the Fukushima plants is MUCH hotter than anywhere else. Even volatilized materials will largely cool and sink before they get high enough, barring that Japanese officials try to fix # 4 during a windstorm. The amount of radioactive particles and gases that will reach the jet stream and be carried over here will be insignificant. We've already seen this: People here were hysterical back during the initial meltdown, insisting that massive amounts of radiation would be coming over on the jet stream and would kill all of us. How many people do you know who have died of radiation poisoning since then? Have radiation monitors in the hands of scientists, schools, industry, power plants, or individuals recorded any kind of significant uptick in background radiation levels? I haven't heard of that happening. Of course, the fruit loop websites claim that this is because the government used some sort of voodoo power to cause all monitors to reset so they'd give false readings...

Now, the ocean is a different kettle of fish, so to speak. The Oyashio (moving southward from the north along the Japanese coast) and the Kuroshi (moving northward, ditto) currents meet in the general area of the Fukushima plant and send the water flowing eastward across the Pacific towards North America. It's a slow current and the Pacific is BIG, so the first of the radioactive particles from 2011 that make the trip won't reach the U.S. until around 2014. Three years. A lot of the radioactivity will have decayed by then. Yes, isotopes of Cesium and Strontium and Iodine will take centuries to decay, but most of the rest of this stuff is far less stable and will decay fast; I believe the 7-10 rule applies to the products of nuclear meltdown as well as fallout from an atomic bomb. And how much of this will actually reach us is open to question. Flotsam from the Tsunami reached here, but that was all stuff that floated; I don't think much concrete and steel debris made it. A lot of the sizable particles being washed out of Fukushima are heavy, and being irradiated doesn't make matter buoyant. Most of this stuff is dropping into the sentiment near Japan or will sink in the more than 6000 mile trip from Japan to the West Coast. This isn't good, and I keep thinking of those '50s movies about radioactive monsters from the deep coming up and wiping out cities. But while the radioactive materials WILL reach here eventually, and cause contamination of sea life and shores, this instance that we'll all get cancer and die from it shows a lack of understanding of the dangers involved.

Here's something you might want to consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run

The Green Run irradiated much of eastern Washington and Idaho. But while it increased cancer rates somewhat long term, people didn't all fall down and die immediately. You need to avoid panic and hysteria when dealing with radiation.

There's also this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/fukus...014-8C11050755

Science article that is NOT sensationalist, panic inducing, or filled with doom, but rather says "It's not good, but it probably won't kill us".

(In before the claim that mainstream media always LIES and downplays danger! Just as when they said the Mayan Apocalypse wouldn't happen, Apophis wouldn't plow into the Earth and kill us, and the activation of the LHC wouldn't cause us all to collapse into a black hole. HOW CAN YOU TRUST PEOPLE WHO KEEP GETTING IT RIGHT???)
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Just saw this today thought it was interesting in light of every thing else going on: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09...est=latestnews
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"Fukushima radiation levels '18 times higher' than thought"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23918882

Pretty much what it says. Better measurements by Tepco shows the latest leak from that underground storage tank is MUCH hotter than first reported. This isn't good.



First of all, you're mixing apples and oranges in talking about atmospheric and oceanic situations at the same time. The jet stream starts at around 20,000 feet; it's going to take an AWFULLY big explosion to hurl radioactively contaminated particles high enough for them to reach that level. Some at ground level might be picked up by wind, get involved in wild weather, and be carried that high through updrafts; but it is far far far more likely any explosion will scatter radioactive materials horizontally instead of vertically, where it will stay. That's been the pattern so far; the area around the Fukushima plants is MUCH hotter than anywhere else. Even volatilized materials will largely cool and sink before they get high enough, barring that Japanese officials try to fix # 4 during a windstorm. The amount of radioactive particles and gases that will reach the jet stream and be carried over here will be insignificant. We've already seen this: People here were hysterical back during the initial meltdown, insisting that massive amounts of radiation would be coming over on the jet stream and would kill all of us. How many people do you know who have died of radiation poisoning since then? Have radiation monitors in the hands of scientists, schools, industry, power plants, or individuals recorded any kind of significant uptick in background radiation levels? I haven't heard of that happening. Of course, the fruit loop websites claim that this is because the government used some sort of voodoo power to cause all monitors to reset so they'd give false readings...

Now, the ocean is a different kettle of fish, so to speak. The Oyashio (moving southward from the north along the Japanese coast) and the Kuroshi (moving northward, ditto) currents meet in the general area of the Fukushima plant and send the water flowing eastward across the Pacific towards North America. It's a slow current and the Pacific is BIG, so the first of the radioactive particles from 2011 that make the trip won't reach the U.S. until around 2014. Three years. A lot of the radioactivity will have decayed by then. Yes, isotopes of Cesium and Strontium and Iodine will take centuries to decay, but most of the rest of this stuff is far less stable and will decay fast; I believe the 7-10 rule applies to the products of nuclear meltdown as well as fallout from an atomic bomb. And how much of this will actually reach us is open to question. Flotsam from the Tsunami reached here, but that was all stuff that floated; I don't think much concrete and steel debris made it. A lot of the sizable particles being washed out of Fukushima are heavy, and being irradiated doesn't make matter buoyant. Most of this stuff is dropping into the sentiment near Japan or will sink in the more than 6000 mile trip from Japan to the West Coast. This isn't good, and I keep thinking of those '50s movies about radioactive monsters from the deep coming up and wiping out cities. But while the radioactive materials WILL reach here eventually, and cause contamination of sea life and shores, this instance that we'll all get cancer and die from it shows a lack of understanding of the dangers involved.

Here's something you might want to consider:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run

The Green Run irradiated much of eastern Washington and Idaho. But while it increased cancer rates somewhat long term, people didn't all fall down and die immediately. You need to avoid panic and hysteria when dealing with radiation.

There's also this:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/fukus...014-8C11050755

Science article that is NOT sensationalist, panic inducing, or filled with doom, but rather says "It's not good, but it probably won't kill us".

(In before the claim that mainstream media always LIES and downplays danger! Just as when they said the Mayan Apocalypse wouldn't happen, Apophis wouldn't plow into the Earth and kill us, and the activation of the LHC wouldn't cause us all to collapse into a black hole. HOW CAN YOU TRUST PEOPLE WHO KEEP GETTING IT RIGHT???)
Smoke does not need to be hurled high enough to get into the jet stream, it gets there all by itself. If #4 burns it will send up a lot of smoke, and cesium.

As far as the oceanic contamination, it's the cesium and the strontium that I'm worried about.
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it's going to take an AWFULLY big explosion to hurl radioactively contaminated particles high enough for them to reach that level. Some at ground level might be picked up by wind, get involved in wild weather, and be carried that high through updrafts; but it is far far far more likely any explosion will scatter radioactive materials horizontally instead of vertically, where it will stay.
We already know that iodine 131 (radioactive iodine) from Fukushima reached the North American coast just days after the initial meltdown. So it's already happened. It can happen again.

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Large amounts of fallout disseminated worldwide from the meltdowns in four reactors at the Fukushima-Dai-ichi plant in Japan beginning March 11, 2011 included radioiodine isotopes. Just days after the meltdowns, I-131 concentrations in US precipitation was measured up to 211 times above normal. Highest levels of I-131 and airborne gross beta were documented in the five US States on the Pacific Ocean.
http://file.scirp.org/Html/1-1330150_28599.htm
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I've been following the situation there, in a weekly basis.

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God forbid that we try to reduce energy usage.
Nuclear is less than 20% in the US, stop using so much electricity and you won't need nuclear.
(I think we need to reduce consumption even if we continue to use nuclear, it's all bad for the environment, nukes are just worse.)
And the amount of electricity the USA uses for automatic doors, and escalators in shopping malls comes to 20%.... So start using stairs and manual doors and turn off your pointless reactors
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My take on the issue of Fukushima is....

1. Tepco are pathological liers. Even before the accident they have a history going back for many many years of faking reports and records and for running their reactors dangerously. Just research Tepco and you can see for yourselves.

2. Tepco are plant operators not emergency crews or disaster specialists. They can run a nuclear power station (debatable) but to expect them to be able to work out complex structural engineering and disaster management was a massive mistake from the word go.

3. Chernobyl. Russia lied about it for 2 days, when the radiation was picked up in Sweden they had to admit they had had an accident yes, but! They did react very quickly to it internally and committed unlimited resource's, money and man-power to the massive undertaking that was the red armies battle of Chernobyl. The army, by hand! picked up super radioactive debris from around the plant and buried it sacrificing their lives doing so! It was their duty to their country. Very brave men I salute you.

They dug under the reactor and under the melting fuel in a matter of days and built a concrete cauldron with liquid nitrogen to halt the fuel in it's tracks.
At the time the belief was the MOX fuel would explode violently on contract with ground water, or cause a hydrothermal explosion. So they knew they had to stop it and fast!

In the mean time they were also bombing the plant with boron, lead and sand by helicopters to muffle the atomic fire that couldn't be doused by water.
And then they entombed it all in the sarcophagus. It was an awful accident that even today goes on killing and mutating people.

Now on the other end the scale the Japanese have effectively done.... well nothing. They have sat there watching not just one but three reactors blow up and melt down. Two years have gone by... they built a tent... woo.

4. Molten nuclear fuel can get as hot as 6000.c
It can also form into blobs that can intermittently spontaneously re-fission thus generating more than just decay heat.
At 6000.c it could potentially melt through 4 meters of concrete per day.
(let that sink in)
By melting through materials the molten mass also grows in size and mass though also cools over time and becomes less likely to fission due to the additions of imperfections such as silicates and other metals it absorbed as it melts down.

But what I am trying to say is, the corium could now be anywhere in the environment. It could well be 1000+ ft deep now. It could have followed cracks and water movement in the mudrock and moved far away from the plant and gone out into / under the ocean by now. There is almost no way to truly know where the hell it went!
But one thing is 100% certain, it is NOT in the reactors anymore, nor even in the buildings. It is long long gone.

5. Water water everywhere....
Why are they continuing to pump water into three reactors that no longer have any fuel in them to cool?
Why do they have to use fresh water all the time? why not just circulate the same water your pumping out back in again?
Why don't they understand that building an underground frozen dam is what's causing the water to back up and come to the surface and it is NOT stopping it from going into the ocean, it's just speeding it up and making the site too unstable and too radioactive to work on.

Why don't they build this dam at the other side of the plant to stop ground water from flowing into the reactor buildings to start with rather than stopping it flowing out of them.
Why store it all in the wrong kinds of tanks? why store it at all? If you just circulated the SAME water over and over again (not like it is needed) you'd have little or nothing to store right?

6. Unit 1 and 2.
Not really hearing much news on these units, they seem to be in no immediate state of peril (loosely speaking)

7. Unit 3.
MOX fuel. That's half Uranium half Plutonium. This mixture is the most deadly material known to man. Lucky it is too heavy an element to go more than a few short miles in the event of a big explosion, it's localised to the site itself.
But, it may well be in the ocean of the site's coast. It may well be eaten by marine life and bio-accumulate up the food chain and swim it's way over the ocean to be fished and end up on a supermarket shelve near you! lol.

Also was it just me, or the did the unit 3 detonation look pretty huge? like there seemed to be a massive solid mass object in the debris that flew out of it, the reactor core lid maybe? Seemed like it to me, At Chernobyl the 22 ton cap of the reactor was blasted off when the core exploded and flung into the air like a Frisbee to land back into the atomic fire at an angle. I strongly believe the same thing happened here and that is why they are finding core material all over the place on site upto a few miles away! it blew it's load everywhere!

8. Unit 4
This seems to now be the major issue on everyone's mind.
To clarify unit 4's core was empty at the time of the disaster. It was open and undergoing maintenance and re-fuelling. Now the building itself is the worst damaged out of them all and yet I can find no footage or pictures of it ever exploding.
It had a small fire that took several days to put out. But also the core was empty and not able to produce hydrogen, and from what I understand the fuel pool couldn't have produced hydrogen either. So how it is so badly damaged?
I "think" it was the detonation shock wave from unit 3 which slammed into unit 4 and caused this damage.

Anyway, the problem here is it has the largest concentration of spent fuel out of all the reactors and it's contained in an open to the air pool some 100ft up in the top of the building that has been mostly destroyed. In fact it is a miracle the pool is even intact at all!
There are over 1300x 12ft long nuclear fuel assemblies in the pool. Some of them still really hot from just being removed from the active core before the tsunami. This spent fuel is very very highly radioactive and should the pool collapse or drain it could all catch fire really easily and they will NOT be able to put it out with water because once on fire the zircalloy cladding will become explosive on contact with water and it will blow the fuel pellets inside all over the bloody place rendering the site too radioactive to work at. (like it isn't already!?)

9. Fuel removal
So they plan to manually remove this spent fuel. Where to begin!?
Firstly good! yes! this is very much a good idea as we don't want another smaller quake to come along and cause the above said catastrophe.

But, Bad idea to do it manually without a computer aided crane. The operators will be exposed to massive amounts of radiation during the removal. They will likely have to swap out crane operators every 30 mins or so. The spent fuel maybe damaged by debris, crushed, mangled, partially melted?, ruptured?, corroded by sea water cooling operations. Who knows what state it's in under that water and debris!?

And God damn! Tepco are frankly a bloody shambles! do they have any technical skill to pull this operation off? Do you believe they can do this? I for do not trust them at all!

So here's the deal. You have a bad night sleep knowing your the 16th crane operator that day and your probably going to die of cancer later on. Your hands are shaking, your nervous as hell, your make a mistake and just bump the fuel assembly in the just right way.... suddenly there's the brief blue glow of Cerenkov radiation and you know you just started a nuclear chain reaction and your all going to die. Well done.

Tepco have over 1300 chances to make your slow and painful death a reality!
I am scared to death!
How about you guys?

I am not an nuclear engineer by any means but I read a lot and watch news and documentaries and draw my own conclusions. Sure I might be wrong on things but I'm just throwing out there what my own feelings and opinions are.
I need to go to bed now I have work in 5 hours I wish to write more soon, Please reply and tell me your opinions.

Be safe guys and good luck!
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Strontium was used in cathode ray tubes to prevent x-rays from escaping!

Yes, by supplementing with strontium citrate (the non-radioactive isotope), your body is less likely to absorb the radioactive isotope frequently the result of nuclear fission.

BTW, strontium, although not labelled an essential nutrient, is used to treat osteoporosis. It increases bone density and allows the body to metabolize calcium more efficiently.

For those who spend a lot time standing and have lower leg pain, in addition to calcium/magnesium supplements, strontium can really help!
There is natural radiation all around it's the type that you have to worry about. Every person has a limit to how much they can be exposed to over a year some can take more some have to take less it depends on the person. The stuff that's really bad can't make it this far because it's to heavy to cover that distance the stuff that can reach wears off much quicker because it's light weight and can float. The amount of radiation can build up and cause problems how ever it all depends on the type. Radiation damages cells on your body and your body then regenerates the cells if the radiation damages the cells faster then your body can fix them then your in trouble and the stuff that can do that is the heavy stuff that can't reach. How ever a fish that eats a dead fish and then ends up on the dinner plate can bring that over.

The main facts you want to know is the type of radiation and how long it lasts before it wears off as some have several days some have years and some have almost never.

They still inject people with radioactive material to take images of their body it comes down to type.
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We already know that iodine 131 (radioactive iodine) from Fukushima reached the North American coast just days after the initial meltdown. So it's already happened. It can happen again.
Never said it didn't. The key word here, is 'significant'.

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http://file.scirp.org/Html/1-1330150_28599.htm

"Large amounts of fallout disseminated worldwide from the meltdowns in four reactors at the Fukushima-Dai-ichi plant in Japan beginning March 11, 2011 included radioiodine isotopes. Just days after the meltdowns, I-131 concentrations in US precipitation was measured up to 211 times above normal. Highest levels of I-131 and airborne gross beta were documented in the five US States on the Pacific Ocean. "
The normal median of I-131 per liter of precipitation is 2.0 picocuries. 211 x 2 = 422 picocuries. A moderate danger level from exposure, according to Stanford, is 100 microcuries to 10 millicuries. So, curie-wise, we've got:


422 picocuries = 0.000,000,000,422

100 microcuries = 0.0001

250 millcuries = 0.25

So, if my math is correct, and I've got the decimal points and zeros right, YOU'D NEED A MILLION TIMES AS MUCH RADIATION AS WAS REPORTED TO REACH MODERATE DANGER.

(ahem)

The key word IS 'significant'...


http://www.radiation.org/press/pressrelease110407.html

http://www.fusrapmaywood.com/factsheet/pico.htm

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/EHS/pro..._Inorganic.pdf
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There is natural radiation all around it's the type that you have to worry about. Every person has a limit to how much they can be exposed to over a year some can take more some have to take less it depends on the person. The stuff that's really bad can't make it this far because it's to heavy to cover that distance the stuff that can reach wears off much quicker because it's light weight and can float. The amount of radiation can build up and cause problems how ever it all depends on the type. Radiation damages cells on your body and your body then regenerates the cells if the radiation damages the cells faster then your body can fix them then your in trouble and the stuff that can do that is the heavy stuff that can't reach. How ever a fish that eats a dead fish and then ends up on the dinner plate can bring that over.

The main facts you want to know is the type of radiation and how long it lasts before it wears off as some have several days some have years and some have almost never.

They still inject people with radioactive material to take images of their body it comes down to type.
The goal is to be ready when Mohammed blows up something here, or some other operator incompetence...

By supplementing with non-radioactive iodine and strontium, not only will you enjoy significant health benefit, but you won't be caught flat-footed if the inevitable happens.
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Never said it didn't. The key word here, is 'significant'.



The normal median of I-131 per liter of precipitation is 2.0 picocuries. 211 x 2 = 422 picocuries. A moderate danger level from exposure, according to Stanford, is 100 microcuries to 10 millicuries. So, curie-wise, we've got:


422 picocuries = 0.000,000,000,422

100 microcuries = 0.0001

250 millcuries = 0.25

So, if my math is correct, and I've got the decimal points and zeros right, YOU'D NEED A MILLION TIMES AS MUCH RADIATION AS WAS REPORTED TO REACH MODERATE DANGER.

(ahem)

The key word IS 'significant'...


http://www.radiation.org/press/pressrelease110407.html

http://www.fusrapmaywood.com/factsheet/pico.htm

http://www.stanford.edu/dept/EHS/pro..._Inorganic.pdf
Is second hand smoke significant?
How much poison do you allow as a matter of course.
I, for one would like to have 0 man made radioactive contamination in my air, water, and food. I know some is unavoidable, but that doesn't mean I have to allow the nuclear industry to keep raising the levels of pollution in my environment and not say something about it.
Just because it won't kill me ,doesn't mean it won't kill my grandchildren.
Nuclear power is giving us cheap electricity, but at such a high price for our children.
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This thing scares the pants off me. I'm convinced it's a planet changer and we just haven't figured it out yet. We have all these posters here worried about chem-trails, Fema camps and other conspiracy crap. This disaster is real and happening now, but receives almost no attention compared to other issues.
Myself and others on SB made a valiant attempt to alert people 2 years ago concerning this issue. I think most of us realized the sheep of this world reside here too much like everywhere else. Below is a youtube video (FILMED A MONTH OR SO AFTER THE EVENT) that will put Fukushima in perspective. Below that is a small history of my own attempts at waking people up. Sadly I gave up, realizing this was going to become another time in my life when I have to look in the eyes of other humans and think to myself ....why did they not listen?


There are 3 issues I must debunk now before the uneducated show up.

#1 They will say: "We tested thousands of nuclear weapons and blah blah blah.... What I say: A single nuclear weapon releases its radiation and causes a set amount of contamination.....A nuclear meltdown may not have a mushroom cloud and a scary boom but the radioactive release continues for hundreds of years...

#2 They will say: "I was told a banana has radiation so whats the big deal?.... What I say: The half life of the radioactive isotope in a banana degrades in less than a day and is so far lower than background radiation as to have no impact on your health. The shortest lived isotope in these reactors is in the nieghborhood of 30+ years and some of them have half lives of thousands of years.

#3 They will say: I was told we have background radiation and this is no worse.....What I say: Would you rather stand 5 feet from a camp fire our let me light a match and drop it on your head? (A basement with high radon levels is the camp fire, an isotope of uranium from fukushima entering your digestive system and staying with you is the match.)






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https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...09#post4794709
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...46#post4238046
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...95#post4105595
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...06#post4104706
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...96#post2984496
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...74#post2915174
http://www.senrinomichi.com/?p=2541
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https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...35#post2781035
https://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...33#post2779733
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MY MOST IMPORTANT POST ON SB (IN MY OPINION)
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I've been following the situation there, in a weekly basis.

Two words: Chicken skin!
How profound!
Thanks for sharing.
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and yet we build more of these plants!!!! if we get a emp attack and the nuke plants lose power there is no place on earth too hide when 370 nuclear power plants melt down!!! solar energy is the way.. or geothermal.....
Uhhh, when was the last time a permit was approved for a nuke plant?

Feb 2012. and there were 2, before that, 1978. So there isn't one going up on every street corner like gas stations.
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Because the UN know they can't really do craq about it...
What?

Of course they can! They can write a letter to the Japanese saying how
very, very angry they are.

(come ON guys... somebody SHOULD have posted *that* by now).
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Uhhh, when was the last time a permit was approved for a nuke plant?

Feb 2012. and there were 2, before that, 1978. So there isn't one going up on every street corner like gas stations.
I'm learning that all it takes is for one of these plants, anywhere on earth, to have a catastrophic event, and the results can be absolutely devastating to the entire planet. I no longer trust nuclear power.
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A nice discussion about that healthy glow that you will soon be noticing............

http://fairewinds.org/media/radio/concerned-fukushima



Another nice little flick from You Tube..............

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