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Old 09-10-2019, 10:26 PM
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Iíve thought about starting this thread for a while now. In the writings of Paul, he talks about the Good News in a context of much longer letters than people compose nowadays.

I wish I could make this a poll question but options elude me. As a corollary, what was the Bad News accepted by the first audience of the Good News?

I suppose the historical and cultural frame of reference of the Bad News is necessary to put The Good News in proper perspective.

BAD NEWS = OLD COVENANT = YOU HAVE SINNED AND WILL BE JUDGED.

GOOD NEWS = NEW COVENANT = ?

Iím thinking something along the lines of: a Savior has come to wash away sins to those who humbly accept and believe His free gift of eternal life. Of course, there may be many ways of saying but does more need to be said? Or can less be said while describing completely, the Good News?
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16, KJV

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For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23, KJV

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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9, KJV
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Iíve thought about starting this thread for a while now. In the writings of Paul, he talks about the Good News in a context of much longer letters than people compose nowadays.

I wish I could make this a poll question but options elude me. As a corollary, what was the Bad News accepted by the first audience of the Good News?

I suppose the historical and cultural frame of reference of the Bad News is necessary to put The Good News in proper perspective.

BAD NEWS = OLD COVENANT = YOU HAVE SINNED AND WILL BE JUDGED.

GOOD NEWS = NEW COVENANT = ?

Iím thinking something along the lines of: a Savior has come to wash away sins to those who humbly accept and believe His free gift of eternal life. Of course, there may be many ways of saying but does more need to be said? Or can less be said while describing completely, the Good News?
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Christ died and shed His blood so that you may have everlasting life in the Kingdom of God!
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Iíve thought about starting this thread for a while now. In the writings of Paul, he talks about the Good News in a context of much longer letters than people compose nowadays.



I wish I could make this a poll question but options elude me. As a corollary, what was the Bad News accepted by the first audience of the Good News?



I suppose the historical and cultural frame of reference of the Bad News is necessary to put The Good News in proper perspective.



BAD NEWS = OLD COVENANT = YOU HAVE SINNED AND WILL BE JUDGED.



GOOD NEWS = NEW COVENANT = ?



Iím thinking something along the lines of: a Savior has come to wash away sins to those who humbly accept and believe His free gift of eternal life. Of course, there may be many ways of saying but does more need to be said? Or can less be said while describing completely, the Good News?
People's opinions will always differ...the Bible says in several verses...THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, Jesus taugh to pray for "Thy kingdom come" .

You see this is the GOOD NEWS, that God's kingdom will be established on earth and Christ will rule over us forever...that is what is written in the Bible. Revelation clearly states that A NEW JERUSALEM will be on earth and that Jesus himself will rule, and that there will be no day or night in and near the city as his LIGHT will shine so bright.

This is the truth, you will hear a lot of stories about the "kingdom of God" for some reason pastors and evangelists and preachers and lay men all seem to think its something "inside of us all"...its "already in this world"....

First of all ITS NOT IN THIS WORLD, the world is imperfect, full of sin and full of abominations, dirty and filthy and satan has not been defeated yet......secondly how can the Kingdom of God be in your heart if its literally stated in the Bible that GOD (Jesus) will rule from the new Jerusalem?

Men cannot rule themselves, thats why God has given us so many times to try and to fail, to show us that we cannot rule ourselves justly, we are full of greed, jealousy,hatred etc etc....

THE GOOD NEWS IS THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, that he will bring EVERLASTING PEACE, there will be no more,heartache,wars, murders,rapes,sickness,death etc etc THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS....THE KING IS COMMING!!!!

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BAD NEWS = OLD COVENANT = YOU HAVE SINNED AND WILL BE JUDGED.

GOOD NEWS = NEW COVENANT = JUDGEMENT IS NEAR, LAST CHANCE TO CHOSE GOD (based on John the Baptist message, and John 3:19)
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Greatest news is Jesus The Christ Resurrected from the dead, overcoming death/satan.
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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9, KJV
Once again, I love Ephesians. (Although I could do without the ye's, thee's and thou wilt type foreign language).

I suspect many in today's hedonistic culture are ignorant to NEEDING to be saved.

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People's opinions will always differ...the Bible says in several verses...THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, Jesus taugh to pray for "Thy kingdom come" .
Interesting take. It reminds me of the book I read by Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You. Many people look to magic, life after death stuff, but here is taking in the Spirit, here and now! Thanks for your interesting post.
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I prefer to go with scripture on this one.

After Y'shua (Jesus) was tempted:
Luke 4:16 Now when he went to Natzeret, where he had been brought up, on Shabbat he went to the synagogue as usual. He stood up to read, 17 and he was given the scroll of the prophet Isaiah. Unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written,

18 “The Spirit of Adonai is upon me;
therefore he has anointed me
to announce Good News to the poor;
he has sent me to proclaim freedom for the imprisoned
and renewed sight for the blind,
to release those who have been crushed,

19 to proclaim a year of the favor of Adonai.”
(Isaiah 61:1)

20 After closing the scroll and returning it to the shammash, he sat down; and the eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 He started to speak to them: “Today, as you heard it read, this passage of the Tanakh (OT) was fulfilled!
Philippians 3:20 But we are citizens of heaven, and it is from there that we expect a Deliverer, the Lord Yeshua the Messiah.

GOOD NEWS = NEW COVENANT = GOD'S MESSIAH HAS COME
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I prefer to go with scripture on this one.

After Y'shua (Jesus) was tempted:
[indent]Luke 4:16 Now when he went to Natzeret, where he had been brought up, on Shabbat he went to the synagogue as usual. He stood up to read, 17 and he was given the scroll of the prophet Isaiah. Unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written,

[B]18 ďThe Spirit of Adonai is upon me;
therefore he has anointed me
to announce Good News to the poor;
he has sent me to proclaim freedom for the imprisoned
and renewed sight for the blind,
to release those who have been crushed,
Luke 4:16-18 is among my very favorite verses in Scripture! Thanks.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16, KJV

OR

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23, KJV

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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9, KJV

Does it talk about the Good News in the Old Testament? Surely the followers of the prophets had the good news of salvation. Why did they not talk about it or did they?
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Christ died and shed His blood so that you may have everlasting life in the Kingdom of God!

What will happen to the righteous people of the Old Testament? Or will they receive the Gospel by proxy baptism as the Mormons preach? Like 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verse 29. (baptism for the dead). This verse in the New Testament is one of the 2 reasons why Mormons build temples.
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Paul said it clearly in one sentence in 1 cor 15.
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1Co 15:1* Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;*
1Co 15:2* By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.*
1Co 15:3* For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;*
1Co 15:4* And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:*
OK, two sentences.

That is the Good News; However, to appropriate the Good News to your life; you need to:
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Rom 10:9* That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.*
Rom 10:10* For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.*
There are other verses in Scripture that make clear what "confess" and "believe" mean".
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What will happen to the righteous people of the Old Testament?
What is Abraham’s bosom? The parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31).
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"For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous."
Romans 5:19

There was a time in my life that I would have reflexively answered John 3:16...and its not wrong, really, just too limiting. It distills Jesus work down to that one day on Calvary and minimizes the rest of his ministry. It is the difference between the fullness of faith I have found and a strictly contractual faith.
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You may not like this, but I do not believe that the Good News of Christ can be summarized in one sentence. Although you can come close. I think the essence of the Good News is summarized well by Peter in Acts: 2:22-38

22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you [f]have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having [g]loosed the [h]pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it. 25 For David says concerning Him:

‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’

29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, [i]according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne, 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted [j]to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.

34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:

‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” ’

36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?”

38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
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You may not like this, but I do not believe that the Good News of Christ can be summarized in one sentence.
Hence, the challenge!

If it was easy, anyone could do it.
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The good news in one sentence? Can't be done, because one will lead to another. Of course, any reason can be tied to Christ if you choose to do so. He is the reason for the season, but so much more if you just look deeper.
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I was reading Galatians 1 in my devotional reading today. Interesting how Paul identifies what the Good News is NOT, some kind of return to being under the law.

It is a subtle but important point.
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There are many subtleties in apophatic theology, it broadens the perspective if given thought.
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