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Old 03-18-2020, 04:55 AM
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Mom bought a brand new honda crv 17 months ago,driven lightly,but every few days,has about 8200 miles.
L/A battery with caps,not sealed.Level fine.

Jumped it-drove it-still dead.

Jumped again-went to parts store before they closed-got a new one.
Kept the old one(22$ core charge?)so she can call the dealership today.

I'm used to getting at least 4-5 years..I know things change,but 17 months sounds unusual,defect?,or just the way things are now?
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:09 AM
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That is the way it goes sometimes. I was told long ago when you buy a new battery. You are buying the warranty. I have changed Delco batteries sometimes that are 7 years old. And we often will replace bad batteries in new vehicles that are less than 6 months old. Average life is anywhere from 2-4 years. If you get 5 you did great. I tell customers if it is 5-6 years old start thinking about buying another one soon. It really is hit or miss either way. And yes I would think that battery should be covered under 3/36 year factory warranty. It would be if it was a GM product.
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I think they put the cheapest stuff they can in or on a new car.

Use your meter to see what the charging voltage is, it might be too high or too low. If she fires the car she should be running it for at least 15 minutes to put back the energy, even longer if she runs the heater/air conditioner and head lights.
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With the electronics in newer vehicles, and the push for fuel efficiency, you have to drive them at highway speeds to get the battery to full charge. Letting one completely die at any point will reduce its life by half.

The nature of the manufacturing process will sometimes let an inferior battery get through production. Sometimes they can fail within a few weeks, but most of the time they will last several years.

Her battery could have died on the dealer lot before she even bought the car. It happens. I have seen no evidence of batteries failing any more or any less than they did 20 years ago.
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Letting one completely die at any point will reduce its life by half. .
Will a slow 2amp trickle charge, bring a dead battery back to its original life span?
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Will a slow 2amp trickle charge, bring a dead battery back to its original life span?
It has a lot to do with the battery. If they are AGM marine type batteries, yes a trickle charger will. Those types of batteries are made to be discharged and re-charged. If they are the standard inexpensive lead acid and they have been discharged they will bring them back up but you can expect a shortened overall battery life. There are a lot of variables with batteries such as the typical power draw and the abuse they receive. Not all batteries are created equal.
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I have my farm truck, tractor, mower, and pressure washer on Battery Tenders (various brands). Before I started doing this, I found at least 1-2 of the batts dead every spring. Since I started this routine, I have had 1 tractor battery (6 years old) die and that's it.

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I typically get 3 to 5 years
Average around 48 months
Bought an expensive AGM battery
It did not make the 3 year mark
Not worth it for me
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4-5 years out of a battery is about average. I have had new GM batteries last 9 years, old Die Hards lasted around 6. New car batteries tend to be above average to me. My Malibu was 7+, Toyota was 10.
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The newer Honda vehicles seem to have batteries that last for only 2 years. I have replaced my MIL's battery several times and the vehicle is maybe 4 years old. They have engineered it so, I believe.
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I just took out a 12 year old battery for my son's truck. It wasn't necessarily bad. Just getting weak. The problem with the newer cars is that they draw so much power that they end up operating more like a deep cycle. Between electric seats and daytime running light all the fancy gadgets, you're pulling a lot of juice. Sure, it charges back up but every time you put a major load on it you age it.
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Honda uses absolute crap batteries.

Not sure why. Everything else about my Hondas has been very good.
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Some of my experience depends on how harsh the duty.
My first gen Dodge Cummins uses a single group 31. They last 3 yrs.
But I put a spiral wound battery in my Jeep Wrangler. It lasted 7 yrs.

Anything less than 24 months was a defective POS.
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Honda uses absolute crap batteries.

Not sure why. Everything else about my Hondas has been very good.
Had no clue,she loves it,last car she will have,so she checked a lot out.
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Mom bought a brand new honda crv 17 months ago,driven lightly,but every few days,has about 8200 miles.
L/A battery with caps,not sealed.Level fine.

Jumped it-drove it-still dead.

Jumped again-went to parts store before they closed-got a new one.
Kept the old one(22$ core charge?)so she can call the dealership today.

I'm used to getting at least 4-5 years..I know things change,but 17 months sounds unusual,defect?,or just the way things are now?
Not surprised. I got 2 years out of my 2016 F150 battery.
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Honda uses absolute crap batteries.

Not sure why. Everything else about my Hondas has been very good.
My brother had a bad run of batteries in his Accord. Finally got a good one in it. And its not like one battery fits most these days, they are often car-specific and have to fit just right.
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I have had 3 new crosstours in the last 8 years. One battery lasted only 12 months.

Another one would not start the day after I bought the car. (They failed to tighten the battery clamps. ).

never had one last 2 years.
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I own a mechanic shop.

2 years on a battery these days is all about one will get. Doesn’t matter the brand or how they are driven.
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My four work trucks all have dual battery systems and heavy duty alternators, and I've been getting close to seven years out of the batteries. In the last two months the batteries in two of the trucks went bad and I also had to rebuild both alternators because the slip rings had worn all the way down. Since the batteries in the first two went bad, I replaced all eight as a set, since the original eight were bought as a set and also replaced the other alternators.
I believe that having heavy duty alternators and dual battery systems makes the batteries last longer. My main concern is that one of the trucks will break down in the middle of nowhere and I'll get stuck for a monster tow bill, so for me replacing the batteries and alternators every seven or eight years is well worth the money.
Unfortunately, the stock alternators on many newer vehicles are almost impossible to rebuild since there's no source for spare parts, whereas parts for CS130Ds are easy to find and the rebuild process is simple.
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I own a mechanic shop.

2 years on a battery these days is all about one will get. Doesn’t matter the brand or how they are driven.
Not supprising considering some of the garbage I have seen on new vehicles.
Light gauge battery cables.
Corrodable copper cable clamps.
Painted surfaces for mounting ground cable.
Small battery used for heavy loads.
Lots of active loads when vehicle is parked.

You can not simply park a modern vehicle for six months, and have enough battery power remaining to start it.
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