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Old 09-13-2020, 05:39 PM
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Rom 1:22* Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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Yep.... over 80% of the professors and students on University campuses.



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LOL, sounds like you people on this forum.
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LOL, sounds like you people on this forum.
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So many are high and mighty on their knowledge and intelligence. Unfortunately, many times they lack wisdom. Wisdom is God given and escapes those seeking the ways of the world.
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Professing one's knowledge about a subject is not the same thing as wisdom. We go to most people like doctors, lawyers, accountants, dentist, plumbers, elections. etc. for their knowledge.

Wisdom is rare. A person is wise most often as perceived by someone else. I know some of those that I know were wise had no idea they were wise. One of these were illiterate but still knowledgable about many things and very wise.
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Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Proverbs 26:12
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Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? There is more hope of a fool than of him.

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I wouldn't know where to start.
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I wouldn't know where to start.
yeah, seems pretty common place. I'm so busy trying to fix that guy in the mirror I rarely have the time to look around at my fellow human failures.
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I like a few verses before that one and a few after. Romans 1: 18- 32 is pretty good. A lot of people don't like what it says because it talks about America today.
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I like a few verses before that one and a few after. Romans 1: 18- 32 is pretty good. A lot of people don't like what it says because it talks about America today.
I rather doubt that Saul/Paul was writing about a county/people that no one at the time even knew about.
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Wisdom is typified by finding a simple solution to a complex problem.

Soliman solved the case of two women, (both proclaiming to by the mother of the living child by ordering his bodyguard to divide the child between them with his sword.

The real mother stopped the bodyguard and asked the king to give the child to the other mother.

The king then knew who the real mother was.
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yeah, seems pretty common place. I'm so busy trying to fix that guy in the mirror I rarely have the time to look around at my fellow human failures.
My problem is I see theirs, I see mine . Try to fix theirs and can't fix mine. Uterly exhausting. Not very wise.
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My problem is I see theirs, I see mine . Try to fix theirs and can't fix mine. Uterly exhausting. Not very wise.
Seems like those with the biggest tree trunk hanging out of their own eyes are the ones most focused on other peoples splinters.

(Luke 18) The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.

But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
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I rather doubt that Saul/Paul was writing about a county/people that no one at the time even knew about
I think you are right. Paul was writing about how mankind had turned away from God and began worshiping idols and putting man ahead of God.

And in a sense that is what I think Maintenanceguy meant when he wrote that the verses were referring to America. I think they describe the entire world, just as they did in Paul's day. Not everybody but many people are involved in one or more of these sins. Mankind is the same today as 2000 years ago.

here are some of the verses
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Rom 1:29* Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,*
Rom 1:30* Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,*
Rom 1:31* Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:*
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I think you are right. Paul was writing about how mankind had turned away from God and began worshiping idols and putting man ahead of God.

And in a sense that is what I think Maintenanceguy meant when he wrote that the verses were referring to America. I think they describe the entire world, just as they did in Paul's day. Not everybody but many people are involved in one or more of these sins. Mankind is the same today as 2000 years ago.

here are some of the verses


Think it fits?
When hasn't it fit? But even if it fits, it really doesn't mean Saul/Paul was writing about anything except what he was addressing at the point in time when he wrote it.
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NCalHippie; I agree with you. When hasn't it fit. That's because of Mankind is mankind. Paul was writing about the times he was in. But it fits today also and so the verses are just as true today as they were then. Mankind hasn't changed. Still committing the same sins today as in Paul's time.
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Jesus did not establish a bunch of religious rituals, nor did he demand extraordinary education.
Men do these things to satisfy their own lack of a relationship Jesus had intended via the Holy Spirit.
What is the point of convincing some one into faith in God, and not provide the avenue of the relationship Jesus Died to provide.
Biblical scholars get so involved in trivia that ignore the personal walk living with God.
If you had no scriptures would you still believe? Or is your belief based on your education?
How can you call some one Lord you don't obey on a personal level?
Academics are a distraction.
Desperate honest Prayer is an attraction.
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