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Old 11-14-2019, 02:13 PM
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Deval is throwing his hat into the ring. He's leaving his job at BAIN CAPITAL to do so. I guess old Mittens found a proxy to enter the fray. He's also a good friend of Sotero's.

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Huffington Post had negative article on Patrick 12/2018.

If he were to win the dem nomination, they would be bowing at his feet.

Does anyone know what happened in the embezzlement investigation
while he was gov. of Massachusetts?

I looked on wikipedia, but that was probably scrubbed prior to his announcement.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deval...b066b5cfa49b66
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Huffington Post had negative article on Patrick 12/2018.

If he were to win the dem nomination, they would be bowing at his feet.

Does anyone know what happened in the embezzlement investigation
while he was gov. of Massachusetts?

I looked on wikipedia, but that was probably scrubbed prior to his announcement.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deval...b066b5cfa49b66
You never actually looked at his Wiki page or you would have read the below.
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In June 2015, the Boston Herald reported that Patrick's administration secretly diverted nearly $27 million in government funds to off-budget accounts that paid for trade junkets tab, advertising contracts, and a deal with a federally subsidized tourism venture backed by U.S. Sen. Harry Reid.[87] According to the Herald, state legislators never approved the funding, which began in 2009 when Patrick's office directed quasi-public state agencies, including the Massachusetts Convention Center Authority and Massport to begin funding off-budget trusts.[88] A week later, the Boston Globe quoted Representative David Linsky, chair of the Massachusetts House of Representatives Post Audit and Oversight Committee, as saying that, upon review, the expenditures were either approved by the state legislature or permissible under the state's budget rules and that they violated no applicable law.
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You never actually looked at his Wiki page or you would have read the below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deval_Patrick


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For starters why do you think you "know" what he saw or didn't? That's right, you do not. Secondly what do you know about how the cow chews the cud over here? Oh that right you don't. Why don't you stick to your own political problems as you seem to have plenty right now and stop trolling an American forum.
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WHO???????
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You never actually looked at his Wiki page or you would have read the below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deval_Patrick


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Thanks, I did read but somehow missed it.

If you are calling me a liar, go to the university.

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QFT Who the F is this guy??
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I though the idea of the nomination period was meant to whittle down the field of candidates to one or two frontrunners. The Dems field just continues to grow.... kind of like that old Steve McQueen horror movie, "the Blob"
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Never heard of him until now. After some research, I'm not impressed and will not be voting for him.

Just as some Democrats are figuring out that there aren't enough percentage points to go around and drop out of the running, all of a sudden, people like Bloomberg and this Patrick guy are all set to jump in and now Hillary has escaped her sarcophagus and started making noise.

So who benefits most from keeping the Democrat line-up overstuffed? Biden? Sanders? Warren?
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Never heard of him until now. After some research, I'm not impressed and will not be voting for him.

Just as some Democrats are figuring out that there aren't enough percentage points to go around and drop out of the running, all of a sudden, people like Bloomberg and this Patrick guy are all set to jump in and now Hillary has escaped her sarcophagus and started making noise.

So who benefits most from keeping the Democrat line-up overstuffed? Biden? Sanders? Warren?
I know I wont vote for him. He is a dhimmi.
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So who benefits most from keeping the Democrat line-up overstuffed? Biden? Sanders? Warren?
None of the above.

Trump benefits.
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I know I wont vote for him. He is a dhimmi.
I actually need a little more than just being a Democrat or Republican to not vote for someone. It's like a three-strike system. Being a Democrat or a Republican is an automatic strike, but it takes three to be disqualified from consideration. That almost always happens. For this chump, just being a corporate whore and a gun-control advocate easily make up strike two and three. He's out.
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None of the above.

Trump benefits.
It's definitely his contest to win or lose and he has nobody else to blame but himself if he loses. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to make it easy for him.
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QFT Who the F is this guy??
Former bad Gov. of MA. Has some baggage, but is being mentored by Obama.
He's no Obama.

ETA: He sounds like a little kid when he talks. It's comedic really.
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I actually need a little more than just being a Democrat or Republican to not vote for someone. It's like a three-strike system. Being a Democrat or a Republican is an automatic strike, but it takes three to be disqualified from consideration. That almost always happens. For this chump, just being a corporate whore and a gun-control advocate easily make up strike two and three. He's out.
We will have to agree to disagree. All dhimms are anti 2A and the vast majority are pro-socialism. Having a D behind your name is an automatic deal killer. Not that I think publipukes are automatically better, but they are not automatically anti-Constitution the way dhimms are.
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The dems attacked Romney for being involved at the evil Bain Capital.

I wonder if they will attack Patrick for his being involved at
Bain Capital.
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The dems attacked Romney for being involved at the evil Bain Capital.

I wonder if they will attack Patrick for his being involved at
Bain Capital.
They won't; it doesn't fit the narrative.
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We will have to agree to disagree. All dhimms are anti 2A and the vast majority are pro-socialism. Having a D behind your name is an automatic deal killer. Not that I think publipukes are automatically better, but they are not automatically anti-Constitution the way dhimms are.
I have noticed the dems have been citing "the constitution" when discussing the impeachment inquiry, with high frequency lately.

Every time I hear them cite it, I feel incredulous.

Sort of like when Pelosi says she/they have been prayerful about all this.

Ridamndiculous!!
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"I do not think that word means what you think it means"....

We really cannot talk about "the Democrats" as if they are a monolithic bloc. "The Democrats" are a political party involved in a tripartite civil war.

The Left Wing Democrats are struggling against the Far Left Wing Democrats, and both are struggling against the Progressive Socialist Democrat Crazy Left Wing Democrats.

Pelosi lost control of Congress several months ago, and at the moment Congress is a case where the inmates are running the asylum. Impeachment was a huge gamble, and Pelosi knew it. Her hand was forced by the more militant left wingers in Congress, and now, even if Congress votes to impeach, it isn't going to have the effect they wanted - and arguably it could result in negative outcomes for Democrats in 2020.

The Bernie Sanders and AOC Socialist Democratic ticket don't stand a chance in hell of getting elected. But they tend to pull the entire field in a more progressive, militant liberal direction; and they can certainly split the vote.

Moreover, if anyone remembers when Hillary cut Bernie off at the knees in 2016, there was a bloc of Crazy Left Wing Democrats who went on the warpath against Hillary, and at least some of them voted for Trump in protest. Bernie can be a spoiler for anyone else the party runs.

Warren or Biden, neither are charismatic, persuasive, and gifted leaders who can rally the entire Democratic spectrum behind them. One of them will likely be the candidate, but whether they have the capacity to beat Trump or not is highly speculative - in part because they won't be able to bridge the divisions and bring the entire party together.

(Also in part this is due to the Electoral College - again. Just because everyone in New York, California, Portland, and Seattle votes Democratic, if Trump takes Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, and the heartland he may lose the total vote and still win via the Electoral College.)

The moderate Democrats recognize that a Militant Liberal Progressive Socialist ticket is unlikely to beat Trump. They're trying to discover a candidate who will appeal to Trump voters who would like an alternative they can support.

The 2020 election is still a year away, and it's possible that they might find someone.

But I think, as BHU says above, it's going to come down to Trump himself.

If Trump can avoid shooting himself in the foot, and can stifle his more base instincts, (and stay the hell off Twitter,) he might still win - assuming the economy continues its current rate of growth. It's Trumps election to win or lose.

In effect, the fact that other moderate Democrats are now jumping into the race is a sign of how weak the current field really is, and how skeptical the national party is overall regarding their chances of beating Trump next November.

Democrats are in a quandary, and the Impeachment spectacle is likely to make their chances worse instead of better.
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