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Old 08-10-2019, 03:28 PM
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How dare a sovereign people use violence to stop their country from being violated - stop invasion of their sovereign territory? [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/mad.gif[/IMG]

Criminals have always been subject to violent response, especially invaders; be it on ones body, in ones home or ones sovereign border. Just because the people who make these immoral choices do not have something in common with other groups of invaders (such as affiliated with a military) does not mean they are not deserving derogatory comments for their immoral, criminal choices.
You don't shoot unarmed people. Only cowards and terrorists shoot unarmed people. That is one of the many virtues instilled in me while I was serving in the Military. It is also cowardly to incite others to commit to what you would characterize as justified violence (that is against US law) behind a computer screen instead of doing it yourself if your belief is so compelling. Those type of people are usually called agent provocateurs. They are usually the slime that exists at our fringes.
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The Leftist mantra, overturn standards of Western Civilization. The command to stop was NEVER dependent on the criminal being armed!

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With respect, you know better.

It isn't what you say, it's how you say it.

It isn't problematic in the least to proclaim: "US national security depends on securing it's borders, and in particular, it's southern border which is increasingly being violated at levels beyond the ability of the Border Patrol to control. Illegal immigration must be stopped to ensure the safety and security of US citizens."

Nothing in those sentences is unacceptably aggressive or violent.

Posting "Illegal immigrants should be killed", however, is problematic.

The same argument can be made, and is arguably stronger, without advocating violence. After all, most arguments are intended to be persuasive.
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As one of my brothers in arms said the night/morning Desert Shield came became Desert Storm - "Peace! We tried it, now we're gonna riot!"

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With respect, you know better.

It isn't what you say, it's how you say it ... After all, most arguments are intended to be persuasive.
The Left does not debate. There is no argument they will accept. Hence, the Appeal to Emotion. There is no way to say no to their policies they will accept. Attempting to is how political correctness got invented.

NOTE: Your post does not put the burden on the Left of calm public discourse - as they invade, murder, rape and rob.
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With respect, you know better.

It isn't what you say, it's how you say it ... After all, most arguments are intended to be persuasive.
The Left does not debate. There is no argument they will accept. Hence, the Appeal to Emotion. There is no way to say no to their policies they will accept. Attempting to is how political correctness got invented.

NOTE: Your post does not put the burden on the Left of calm public discourse - as they invade, murder, rape and rob.
Looks like the Law enforcement don’t debate either. They didn’t with this guy.

https://www.nbc-2.com/story/40653484...nst-minorities
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[QUOTE=PeterEnergy;19703068]Although I am unaware of any violent comments directed on SB toward the gay community, derogatory comments are deserved against certain groups - for the choices they make. See all the positive comments directed at White Supremacists.

Morality has always been the domain of condemning people for their choices. (By contrast, it is NOT moral to condemn people for things that are not their choices, such as being Black or being a woman.) The hypersensitivity of the Left now equates moral condemnation (so-called "derogatory comments") with violence. This is an attempt to flip who is the victimizer and who is the victim.



kev has embraced the PC protection of minority groups - like Blacks and women - in extending it to immoral choice makers, even criminals.

Discernment is needed, ultimately between right and wrong, good and bad. Prohibiting derogatory comments against bad IS BAD.



How dare a sovereign people use violence to stop their country from being violated - stop invasion of their sovereign territory?

Criminals have always been subject to violent response, especially invaders; be it on ones body, in ones home or ones sovereign border. Just because the people who make these immoral choices do not have something in common with other groups of invaders (such as affiliated with a military) does not mean they are not deserving derogatory comments for their immoral, criminal choices.

Honestly, the Left has no argument so they resort to being hyper offended - to anyone opposing not being a victim of even criminal behavior - or a sovereign people defending their sovereign territory from invaders - when it benefits the Left's agenda. They suppose proof of how wrong you are is how offended they are!

Stopping invasion is why military exists, to directly use violence to stop invaders.
These invaders are no kind of immigrants, who assimilate into a country. They continue to fly their nations flag, speak their language, even demand we speak their language in our schools and institutions, and many continue their lives of crime:
Thousands Killed By Invaders
2018: 10,800 Children Raped in America by Illegal Aliens
Illegal Alien Crime And Violence By The Numbers: We’re All Victims
In response, patriotic Americans are not even allowed to use derogatory language against invaders, murderers, rapists and robbers?! Even this is deemed unacceptably aggressive and violent? Give me a break![/QUOTE.


PE, I think Kev was mainly asking members not to advocate murder or acts of violence.
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Although I am unaware of any violent comments directed on SB toward the gay community, derogatory comments are deserved against certain groups - for the choices they make. See all the positive comments directed at White Supremacists.

Morality has always been the domain of condemning people for their choices. (By contrast, it is NOT moral to condemn people for things that are not their choices, such as being Black or being a woman.) The hypersensitivity of the Left now equates moral condemnation (so-called "derogatory comments") with violence. This is an attempt to flip who is the victimizer and who is the victim.



kev has embraced the PC protection of minority groups - like Blacks and women - in extending it to immoral choice makers, even criminals.

Discernment is needed, ultimately between right and wrong, good and bad. Prohibiting derogatory comments against bad IS BAD.



How dare a sovereign people use violence to stop their country from being violated - stop invasion of their sovereign territory?

Criminals have always been subject to violent response, especially invaders; be it on ones body, in ones home or ones sovereign border. Just because the people who make these immoral choices do not have something in common with other groups of invaders (such as affiliated with a military) does not mean they are not deserving derogatory comments for their immoral, criminal choices.

Honestly, the Left has no argument so they resort to being hyper offended - to anyone opposing not being a victim of even criminal behavior - or a sovereign people defending their sovereign territory from invaders - when it benefits the Left's agenda. They suppose proof of how wrong you are is how offended they are!

Stopping invasion is why military exists, to directly use violence to stop invaders.
These invaders are no kind of immigrants, who assimilate into a country. They continue to fly their nations flag, speak their language, even demand we speak their language in our schools and institutions, and many continue their lives of crime:
Thousands Killed By Invaders
2018: 10,800 Children Raped in America by Illegal Aliens
Illegal Alien Crime And Violence By The Numbers: We’re All Victims
In response, patriotic Americans are not even allowed to use derogatory language against invaders, murderers, rapists and robbers?! Even this is deemed unacceptably aggressive and violent? Give me a break!
Then why choose this particular site for your crusade? Stormfront etc. is just a click away.....
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Although I am unaware of any violent comments directed on SB toward the gay community, derogatory comments are deserved against certain groups - for the choices they make. See all the positive comments directed at White Supremacists.

Morality has always been the domain of condemning people for their choices. (By contrast, it is NOT moral to condemn people for things that are not their choices, such as being Black or being a woman.) The hypersensitivity of the Left now equates moral condemnation (so-called "derogatory comments") with violence. This is an attempt to flip who is the victimizer and who is the victim. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/upsidedown.gif[/IMG]



kev has embraced the PC protection of minority groups - like Blacks and women - in extending it to immoral choice makers, even criminals. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

Discernment is needed, ultimately between right and wrong, good and bad. Prohibiting derogatory comments against bad IS BAD. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]



How dare a sovereign people use violence to stop their country from being violated - stop invasion of their sovereign territory? [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/mad.gif[/IMG]

Criminals have always been subject to violent response, especially invaders; be it on ones body, in ones home or ones sovereign border. Just because the people who make these immoral choices do not have something in common with other groups of invaders (such as affiliated with a military) does not mean they are not deserving derogatory comments for their immoral, criminal choices.

Honestly, the Left has no argument so they resort to being hyper offended - to anyone opposing not being a victim of even criminal behavior - or a sovereign people defending their sovereign territory from invaders - when it benefits the Left's agenda. They suppose proof of how wrong you are is how offended they are!

Stopping invasion is why military exists, to directly use violence to stop invaders.
These invaders are no kind of immigrants, who assimilate into a country. They continue to fly their nations flag, speak their language, even demand we speak their language in our schools and institutions, and many continue their lives of crime:
Thousands Killed By Invaders
2018: 10,800 Children Raped in America by Illegal Aliens
Illegal Alien Crime And Violence By The Numbers: We’re All Victims
In response, patriotic Americans are not even allowed to use derogatory language against invaders, murderers, rapists and robbers?! Even this is deemed unacceptably aggressive and violent? Give me a break!
Then why choose this particular site for your crusade? Stormfront etc. is just a click away.....
Make it Main stream... what good is spreading the message to a bunch already converted.
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Make it Main stream... what good is spreading the message to a bunch already converted.
"bunch already converted" = "certain groups"

The message you seem to agree with ...

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... derogatory comments are deserved against certain groups - for the choices they make.
If you do not agree with me, then you are making derogatory comments against my patriotic and moral message (and against those already converted), right?
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Then why choose this particular site for your crusade? Stormfront etc. is just a click away.....
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Make it Main stream... what good is spreading the message to a bunch already converted.
Those who only use this site for political rants (rather than survivalism discussions) are not seeking a solution to the worlds problems (as they see them). They are here to feel the comfort of reassurance from the like minded (in an echo chamber). They are here to be part of an artificial (virtual?) majority (for a change).
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Make it Main stream... what good is spreading the message to a bunch already converted.
"bunch already converted" = "certain groups"

The message you seem to agree with ...

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... derogatory comments are deserved against certain groups - for the choices they make.
If you do not agree with me, then you are making derogatory comments against my patriotic and moral message (and against those already converted), right?
Sorry if I offended the people on storm front. You think they will accept my apology?
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Make it Main stream... what good is spreading the message to a bunch already converted.
Those who only use this site for political rants (rather than survivalism discussions) are not seeking a solution to the worlds problems (as they see them). They are here to feel the comfort of reassurance from the like minded (in an echo chamber). They are here to be part of an artificial (virtual?) majority (for a change).
You know the sad part is they most are a bunch of old men always talking about civil war this.. civil war that as if they gonna do anything. They are just trying to rile up the young folks to do their dirty work because they can’t. Like Peter, he likes to talk a lot of ****, but you think he will be on some front line defending something? Yeah right.
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Well this thread has about run its course. Locked.
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