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There is no direct evidence either way about polygamy's prevelance... however, it seems to me that a fair interpretation suggests it was very rare. |
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We can’t expect casual references in the Bible for several reasons. One being that in a poly-normative society you call somebodies their wife their wife. There is no reason to mention that they are a plural wife. However I’ve posted articles that reference historical accounts that have casual references to plural families. And I don’t know why you would say very rare is a fair interpretation. There is zero evidence for that. Palestine was a polygamous culture why would polygamy be more rare there than in other similar cultures ? The second paper I linked to notes that the only accounts of polygamy being rare seem to be accounts from several hundred years later , and are likely biased by the changing moral view. We do know what polygamous societies rates of polygamy are today. And it tends to be 5-15 %. And the incentive to marry more than one wife is higher in societies with strong taboos against unmarried sex or prostitution. Both those things existed in 1st century Israel much as they do in the Islamic world today. |
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![]() Israel is made up of 12 tribes. These ‘tribes’ are the 12 children of the grandson of Abraham, Jacob. The covenant name of Jacob is Israel and his 4 wives gave birth to the 12 tribes of Israel that is foretold in Revelations.
From this, I would conclude polygyny is deeply rooted in Judeo-Christian mythos. FUN FACT: Jacob actually had 13 children. His one daughter, Dinah, did not generate a tribe. |
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The subject is this: Ethical non-monogamy, Polyamory, Solo Poly, Compersion, Thruple So say something about these. Add some documentation or analysis of the reasons or the social effects of these relationships. |
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![]() I'm sure he had more than 13, all those boys and only one girl? Doubtful, to me. But only boys mattered for the historical record. Dinah was only important because a whole town was destroyed because she was (I believe) seduced. I am sure there were more girls.
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![]() The evidence is not strong that Palestine was still a polygamous society anymore in the First Century. It had been under strong Roman influence for almost 100 years when Jesus started his ministry. The old traditions were fading fast at that time.
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You have to understand before contact with the Romans MOST societies where polygamists. The Greeks. The Jews. The Vikings , etc. if we look at the history of the whole world polygyny is the norm not the outlier. Btw the Sephardic Jews practiced polygamy much later than other Jews. |
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![]() Couch the debauchery in whatever cloak of historical evidence you wish. Yes, God allowed a whole bunch of stuff to happen due to very specific circumstances. That does not give a permanent pass forever. For a Christian, the words, teachings and examples given us by Jesus trump anything you drag out of the OT. The New Covenant trumps the old, and hanging your hat on Jesus saying He wasn't going to change a word of the OT as carte Blanche license to polygamy ignores the fact that Jesus FULFILLED the Law!
So the Law of Moses and Man were now subsumed by the New Covenant. Over and over, Jesus did things that were heretical for observant Jews, and loved to poke the Sadducces and Pharisee's noses in it. Of course, mostly for their hypocrisy, but their adherence to the Law over everything was the thing He was most upset about. So, please, if you want to use the dubious, but probably not inaccurate fact of historical existence of multiple wives to justify your own dabbling, that's on you. But trying to drag Jesus into some sort of tacit acceptance goes completely against everything in the NT. If you can read Matthew 19: 1-9 among others, and still conclude that multiple anything is either indicated or approved, this is just willful ignorance. But I think you all know this. Carry on. |
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![]() Just because people did ... does not mean God approved.
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![]() Solomon chased after other Gods and worshipped them. That, to my understanding, is why he got in trouble with God. His foreign wives led him into it - I don't think he would have had a problem if he had hundreds of devout Jewish wives but the foreign ones got him in trouble.
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God is not an “ Indian giver “ he is eternal and unchanging. Polygamy was not a sin when Moses did it and it’s not a sin now. Can a poly or mono marriage be sinful , you bet. But that doesn’t mean they all are or that none are. |
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So I guess your Dad treated you exactly the same from when you were a toddler through adulthood? ![]() God is the same. How He treats and teaches us is not. |
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![]() A nice flippant reply.
This is just another example of the danger of private interpretation of Scripture. Do what you think is right, and make those specious arguments to Jesus at your After Action Report. |
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