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Old 01-20-2014, 12:56 PM
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So do to me being exceptionally cheap these days I was at the range and the guy next to me dumped about 200 rounds of tula .223 down range. Then he packed up and left. I was thinking what a d bag and decided to pick up his brass for him. I shoot on a public lands range so you have to police your own brass. Any way sitting there I stopped and realize that there are hundreds of tula .223 all over the place. Hmmm I pulled out the phone and googled if tula waa reloadable and sure enough they are boxer primed. The day still young I drove home loaded 20 rounds using tula cases. Long story short I did volume loading using cheap powder and used cheap 55 grain fmj. And damn they actually did fine out of my stg 556. Groups were 2.5 at 100 yards. Cycling and firing without a hitch. No ruptured casings cracked necks in fact the neck wall thickness stayed relatively the same. Just letting people know that there is an abundance of these laying everywhere
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They are reloadable and most don't......bulk once fired military brass is what I use for most part....PSA usually has a good deal on them......
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But no better a deal than free. I load my brass by weight and with quality bullets sweet loaded for my stg 556. This metal crap I load like a factory quick and cheap. It saves me a little compared to buying at Walmart. Though now I ran out of primers and bullets so I am on a break till more get here
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Though a warning some how in the pile of fresh brass I ran into two berdan primed rounds dont know if tula packed some old ammo with the new or this guy had some old tula he tossed into a mag. But I caught them when the press seemed a little to hard to de prime
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I would think steel cases would be awfully hard on dies (no pun intended). I've stayed away from steel cased ammo mainly because I want my ejectors/extractors, etc., to last as long as possible. Am I wrong in my line of thinking?
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Luckygunner.com did a pretty rigorous testing on the effects of steel case ammo in ar15's they found no exceptional wear when compared to brass. Just the bimetal fmj tula is loaded with can shorten the barrel life. And I dont think the soft steel used in the casings are really going to effect the dies those things are pretty hardened
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I have also heard that they lead to a shorter die life, but considering what dies cost it might be worth it. If it takes 20% off the life of the die what's the big deal. If it takes 80% that might be a problem.
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I really doubt that the soft steel used In these casings have any significant effect on carbide dies or even regular ones. I am not a metalurgist but it makes sense
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I really doubt that the soft steel used In these casings have any significant effect on carbide dies or even regular ones. I am not a metalurgist but it makes sense
After you fire the steel case the steel hardens fast. My best friend did that for almost 1500 brass and then his die started wearing bigger and bigger. Before he got to 2000 rounds he had to buy new sizing die, also he had to use more lube to size them. I wont even shoot anything that's not brass but that's me.
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Not exactly something I plan on doing now since I got ton of brass except for a few rounds but would be good to know in a SHTF situation.
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I reload steel Tula .45 acp cases all the time. I pick it up at the range. No problems at all. I don't know how many loadings they can take cause I only tested the same cases for three reloads. I have these reloads boxed together and I use them when I shoot in places that brass recovery might be a problem (like in areas with high grass, in the field, ....), that way I won't whine too much when I lose them.

Shoots good out of my RIA GI. Never had any issues. It probably doesn't hurt that .45 acp is a low pressure round though.

Either way. Steel, boxer primed can be reloaded. Even if you don't really like the idea of it, it's a good idea to pick it up and at least put it away, just in case that's all you have one day, if ya know what I mean.
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I never thought about trying to resize steel cases in either straight or bottleneck style. I can see the 45acp cases being fine but I'd really lube up the steel rifle cases. Also wasn't aware Tula steel had boxer primers, that's a good feature. About time the rest of the world caught up to us.

I know you can wear out an RCBS .308 Win resizing die after 10,000 - 15,000 cases. Steel likely will shorten that up.

You guys got me wondering if there's a difference in case expansion between brass and steel after firing. If the steel has less expansion you should get by with partial sizing or neck-only, that would take a load off the sizer die.

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I actually am using seal 1 clp its like that frog lube stuff as case lube it requires less and it inhibits rust better.
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