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Old 06-15-2019, 06:10 AM
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You did.

Repeatedly.

You even attempted to say that no civilization has ever collapsed and never will, which is wrong, and irrelevant concerning the possibility of future collapse.
No, I didnt say that. You're confused or knowingly lying about me. Again.
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I believe you even said something along the lines of "Malthus was full of ****.

This is of course you're prerogative, and I don't want to have that argument again as I feel it was resolved months ago. But it does make most of your world view irrelevant to me or anyone else prepping for a malthusian type collapse, just a person who is prepping for hurricanes and does not believe in the possibility of a nuclear war would have very little useful to say on the subject.
Man… you cant be helped, can you? a malthusian type collapse?

Thomas Malthus was as wrong as a person can ever be. Its not a matter of opinion it’s a proven historic fact.

He said the world would run out of food due to overpopulation by 1890. It simply didn’t happen and that’s what he based his entire life's work on. How more wrong can a person be?

A bullied, resentful little man, none of the BS he predicted came to happen. These ideas are so out of touch with reality its not even funny.

The problem isn’t people but the LACK of people we will soon face with birthrates around the world dropping like a rock, which is the dark little secret as of why, at the end of the day, every politician in the world allows for refugees, illegals, immigrants of any kind. The population in developed countries is aging. Not an opinion like that dumbass Malthus, but a fact.

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Nothing to resent. We aren't in competition. Just sort of horrified by a few of your comments from time to time. You have a ton of status in the prepping community, which is fine, not something I'm after,
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but it was literally chilling to hear you advise things that I view as next to suicide in the kind of things I'm prepping for.
And who in the world told YOU to drag ME into your "malthusian type collapse" preparedness world.
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I actually feel sorry for you and your family more than anything, as unlike some people here, your not a totalitarian technocrat to my knowledge and probably do not deserve to die in a pile of worthless money at some airport with a very surprised look on your face.
Yeah, family is doing fine, dont worry. I only wish more poeple could be as happy and as well prepared as we are.

I'm not the bragging kind so I wont tell you how many emails and face to face meets I've had over the years with people that have thanked me for the advice I've given, even some pretty cool stories that I'm just humbeld to have been of any kind of influence in.
You know how many people contacted me telling me the adivce I've provided was bad or a deterrent in any way when SHTF for them?
That number I know very well: zero. Not one. Funny isnt it? Your theory about me being such a dangerous fool doesnt seem to be supported by any actual facts.


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Naw, I got over you once I realized we have nothing in common
Sure about that? because you clearly cant stop talking about me all over the forum.

Glad you got over me though.

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I doubt you did, but it is amusing considering Boston police are notorious for being corrupt, so much so that its a cliche, although I have no idea if its still or was ever actually true. I'm not even is disagreement with bribing as far as it goes, its a valuable tool, even in the US, but only as long as money has value.
That moral compass of yours showing again...

You keep sticking to this idea of yours that one day money will no longer have value and that Malthus was right (even if no, he wasnt). I’ll stick to preparedness for the world as it actually is.

On the meantime you speak for you and I’ll speak for myself.

Running around talking crap about me says a lot more about you than it says about me.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:52 AM
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No, I didnt say that. You're confused or knowingly lying about me. Again.
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Running around talking crap about me says a lot more about you than it says about me.
Just remembering the stuff you've posted before and holding you to it. If people like it good for them. Knowing a little bit about Mike though I suspect he would be a little less impressed by your 'fame' if he had followed some of your threads.

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Running around talking crap about me says a lot more about you than it says about me.
I think my post history speaks for itself in this matter.

The irony was, is the only reason I mentioned you on this thread was because I was trying to say that even though think just about everything you say is wrong, on this matter even I agree with you. The implication, for the hard of thinking, being that the OP here is so wrong that I would rather agree with FerFAL of all people than the OP. I was really just using you as a foil in the same way Sorry-no-clues was, and the way I used Zeke for the same purpose earlier on. I only commented at all as I found it rather amusing that I wasn't the only person who thinks agree with FerFAL is a sign of a world gone made. I belive you have a classical education correct? Surely you understand the idea of a literary foil? While I'm sure you don't appreciate being used as such its much different than "Running around talking crap" wouldn't you say?

I generally go out of my way to avoid you, for obvious reasons.
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My ancestors especially on my mom's side ran to the USA in 1890 escaping Sweden, even preparing for ten years before they left Sweden, learning English and saving up money to begin a new life in the USA. Even in 1890 my great grandparents thought Sweden was getting too socialist so they fled to the USA, bought some land even homesteaded and had a good free life.
Its in situations like those that money comes in very handy. Or what you mentoned before about having more gear and supplies. Beyond that far more common these days in America, money for unexpected medical emergencies.

Regarding your ancestors, my grandparents went through something similar when they left Spain. My grandfather on my mothers side was a skilled carpenter. Story goes he was higlhy sought after for roof making and always had work lined up, even during the worst of the civil war when so many went hungry. When he moved to Argentina he opened a carpenrty shop, did well, then opened another shop, a bakery ran by my grandmother. Unfortunately the bad economy and not being as well prepared in terms of investments took a big hit after he sold the businesses. He still did ok but had he invested better he would have ended up rich rather than middle class.

Have you looked into getting Swedish citizenship? They allow dual citizenshio and the extra passport never hurts. 1890 seems like a long streth though but is worth looking into anyway.
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Its in situations like those that money comes in very handy. Or what you mentoned before about having more gear and supplies. Beyond that far more common these days in America, money for unexpected medical emergencies.

Regarding your ancestors, my grandparents went through something similar when they left Spain. My grandfather on my mothers side was a skilled carpenter. Story goes he was higlhy sought after for roof making and always had work lined up, even during the worst of the civil war when so many went hungry. When he moved to Argentina he opened a carpenrty shop, did well, then opened another shop, a bakery ran by my grandmother. Unfortunately the bad economy and not being as well prepared in terms of investments took a big hit after he sold the businesses. He still did ok but had he invested better he would have ended up rich rather than middle class.

Have you looked into getting Swedish citizenship? They allow dual citizenshio and the extra passport never hurts. 1890 seems like a long streth though but is worth looking into anyway.
I suppose I would have to travel to Sweden to get a citizenship? I won't even travel to Canada and wish I had when a passport was not needed. I fled Colorado which some of us now call Calirado, a year ago and I don't want to ever go back so I don't think I am going to travel or become a citizen of an even more socialist country.

About all of my friends are in Wyoming now and I have gotten to know neighbors with cabins and even work for a few of them during the summer. And I have no desire to leave Wyoming since I have traveled plenty and just wish to go live on my mtn place that I bought in 1987 and have been slowly creating a good place to retire, even thrive if / when a bad SHTF finally happens.

Good luck to any who do travel or don't want to be citizens of the USA. Not real sure why some don't want to become US citizens but I do understand why many millions do and try almost anything to become US citizens.
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I suppose I would have to travel to Sweden to get a citizenship?
Depends on the citizenship. Italian for example, you just present proof (grandparents birth certificate, ID of some kind, militarty service card) you send it all translated and a couple years later you get the passport. It depends on each country and in some cases you are allowed to go back several generations, others just parents or grnadparents, others you must claim your right before a certain age.

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I won't even travel to Canada and wish I had when a passport was not needed. I fled Colorado which some of us now call Calirado, a year ago and I don't want to ever go back so I don't think I am going to travel or become a citizen of an even more socialist country.

About all of my friends are in Wyoming now and I have gotten to know neighbors with cabins and even work for a few of them during the summer. And I have no desire to leave Wyoming since I have traveled plenty and just wish to go live on my mtn place that I bought in 1987 and have been slowly creating a good place to retire, even thrive if / when a bad SHTF finally happens.

Good luck to any who do travel or don't want to be citizens of the USA. Not real sure why some don't want to become US citizens but I do understand why many millions do and try almost anything to become US citizens.
Its a topic that opens yet another can of worms for some people.

Personally I dont see a conflcit. Plenty of people have dual or multiple citizenship and use it to their advantage like any other tool. You dont have to give up your American citizenship. An American with an Italian heritage can claim both, doesnt make him any less American yet the moment he sets foot in Italy for whatever reason (or any other EU country) he has the rights of any other citizen.

At the end of the day, its something that some people will pay hundreds of thousnds of dollars to have. In some cases north of half a million bucks. People with money pay for these not because the are stupid but becuase they know its value. Some of the perks are pretty obvious, some not so much...
The thing is, even if you never use it, you can pass it along down your family to your kids and so on. As a parent, if I'm an American and that passport allows my son to get a college degree for a fraction of what it costs in US, I'd jump on the oportunity. If my son is dying because I cant afford a certain medical treatment in America, that paper you got without much thought can be the difference between life and death.
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I did manage to kill the gophers and then the squirrels that holed up in the compost pile and had a successful garden. 18 tomato plants, zucchini, watermelons, pumpkins and plan on more variety next year.
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