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Old 06-17-2019, 10:36 AM
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There is a Navy SEAL out here in San Diego right now on trial for murder. Exactly what you're talking about. Complicated story, but it appears he acted as a soldier should and is being tried by the liberals who run the military DOJ nowadays. You can look him up if you care to, Eddie Gallagher is his name.
Sadly I had to look this up.

Don't really care to comment on stuff like this, especially around non vets, because war is just different. It's also war, and not be be compared with other industries in most ways.

Anyone who thinks good will come of stupid rules and regulations with respect to combat is a naive paper pusher. **** the Geneva convention and **** any liberal bootlicker who wants to hold any service member accountable for how they conduct war. War is an ugly and violent business, always will be. Stop trying to make it more humane, or hold people accountable for literal warfare.

You let your army handle business by any means necessary, or you don't go to war. There is no in between. And men on the front lines know full well, we don't care about your rules on the ground.

I hope this guy doesn't get prosecuted, and similar prosecution efforts should be met with repulsion by the public. In my unit, we kept things behind closed doors. We knew better. And that ROE? Let's just say we didn't worry about it. We fought our war the way we needed to, and no remf or politician, or demtard is going to do anything about it.



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More narrowly defined, modern concepts of asymmetrical warfare often concern electronic warfare and financial warfare. Check out book by James Rickards, the CIA's former man for asymmetrical warfare.
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YOU WIN asymmetrical warfare by being willing to do what the other guy won't in ways he would not/cannot imagine and attacking targets he would never have envisioned to be targets because they are not "legitimate" targets in his mind.

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I was fleshing out parts of a book I was contemplating about things going badly in this country when the "true believers" managed to get into power.
They started raiding gun owners and outspoken conservatives, killing lots of them in the raid because they "resisted"
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A local resistance group became active, and through public media advised every raid where the PTB caused a gun owner to be killed or injured or falsely jailed, would result in one family member of every member of the raid teams to be slaughtered, wives, kids , parents of the raid members, it didn't matter. The PTB thought it was all a big bluff because no one in their right mind would ever do that. And the war began.

the rest of the family members were left alive to serve as psychological hostages in case of more bad raids so the raid members had someone to worry about if they did something "bad". THis also applied to the prosecutors getting the warrants and the judges who signed the bad warrants.

after a few "lessons" on consequences, nobody want to do anything with raids

asymmetrical warfare at its finest. Can't beat them head to head. Make them want to quit.
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There is more than one way to win a war. Holding out until political issues in your enemies country cause them to abandon the fight is one way.

Probably the most common and successful way in fact.
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anybody know of asymmetric warfare tactics, tools, and how to build those tools

I know in Syria the revolutionaries are using trebuchets to throw explosives
Why would you build a trebuchet when it's so easy to steal a backhoe?

All one would need to take out Southern California is a backhoe.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wate...geles_Aqueduct

Same with Phoenix. Look up CAP

Asymmetric warfare is about exploiting the enemy's weakness.
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There is a Navy SEAL out here in San Diego right now on trial for murder. Exactly what you're talking about. Complicated story, but it appears he acted as a soldier should and is being tried by the liberals who run the military DOJ nowadays. You can look him up if you care to, Eddie Gallagher is his name.
Left wing authoritarians run everything. The military, the government, academia, corporate America, the media, the legal system, etc. Our side, whatever we call ourselves this week, donít run anything. We donít own anything that matters. I donít know how THEIR side came to have EVERYTHING and OUR side came to have NOTHING, but it happened. And now we have to fight it and win, or die.
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I donít know how THEIR side came to have EVERYTHING and OUR side came to have NOTHING, but it happened.
The world changed. We can hope it changes back....or make the change ourself. But your right..they have everything.
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There is more than one way to win a war. Holding out until political issues in your enemies country cause them to abandon the fight is one way.

Probably the most common and successful way in fact.
That is part of the beauty of guerilla warfare, wear down the opponent, wait them out.

Time is almost always on the side of the guerilla since they live there, have resources that the enemy may run out of, or have the supply lines cut off.
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Hmmmm.


Op if your gonna fish you need better bait.
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Left wing authoritarians run everything. I don’t know how THEIR side came to have EVERYTHING and OUR side came to have NOTHING, but it happened. And now we have to fight it and win, or die.
IT IS simple..
To left TRUE BELIEVERS all they want IS power. Power lets them ram their beliefs down the throats of those who do not believe the same as they do. So, everything they do is dedicated to the accumulation of power in all forms.

THe right, conservative, gun owner working class folks, all we want to do is do our job, get paid for our labor, live our lives as we wish and most importantly TO BE LEFT ALONE. We only seek power as a self defense move, otherwise leave us alone.
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Read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", then, apply those rules to the modern day with today's weapons, tactics, history lessons of wars that have been fought and be as creative as possible! this is a great book, and a MUST READ for any prepper/survivalist type.
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Asymmtrical warfare = if you're trying to wage a fair fight you're losing.
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Asymmtrical warfare = if you're trying to wage a fair fight you're losing.
THIS^ There are no rules and nothing should ever be off limits. JMHO and S/FI!
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I have had this argument with People all the time. I always say that if you're going to go to war you have to have in Mind to kill as many of them as quickly as possible to break their back. If you go easy and don't then their will to fight will continue to get stronger.
In War, you do what is necessary to Win that battle and every battle you confront.
War, in reality, has no Rules only after the War is over and the Winner decides to make up rules to punish the Losers to break their will so that they will never try again.
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Asymmetric warfare, you don't even see it, and it has been waged against you, conservatism, for more than sixty years. It is slow, incremental, and extremely effective. You don't even realize how you have been changed by it, your thoughts, your values, slowly warped into something conceived of long ago. You even fight their fight for them, and deny that the reasons why are anything but your own.

The enemy controls nearly all the mechanisms of teaching in western culture, the formal education system, the entertainment industry, the publishing houses, public radio, what's left of print newspapers, the text book industry, social media, nearly all the tech involved with social media and more, and every bit of this teaches the masses, bombards them relentlessly with a certain philosophy in general.

He who controls the information one has at one's disposal, to describe and value the world, reality, controls the parameters within which one forms ideas, judgements, morality and ethics.

It is common among those on the right to mock and disparage the intellectuals of the left, and this is a grave error. Long ago they examined many disciplines to find a way to influence and control people, to change the way people think by changing the culture within which we all live, and from which we draw many of our values. They achieved understandings, and devised strategies, taught them to their own, and went into the world to implement them. They take a very long view of this "war", this culture war, it being multi-generational at the very least.

This isn't some cabal of evil people who direct many others, it should not be seen that way, rather it is a vast number of people of like mind, of similar philosophy concerning what our perception of reality should be. They generally need little direct control to work towards their common goal, as they have been taught, and they believe, so they know what to do. That being said, there are powerful, knowledgeable leaders that direct things at times, but it isn't generally as all encompassing orders, and is difficult to trace as such.

Beating people down, shooting people who are refusenicks and obstructionists, is necessary at times, but it is so old school, so ineffective with way too much collateral damage. It is much more efficient to change how people think, by changing their cultural norms, and then you don't have to get all violent, because eventually most everybody will think as they should, as they have been taught to think.

This has been being implemented effectively for a long time, and many things have been normalized, accepted as reality, that would have been unthinkable in the not so distant past. Many of these changes aren't seen as detrimental, rather the ramifications are not understood deeply enough, and so they are accepted as the norm. Far too many people just don't care, as long as they get what they want, and they do not protest much of anything as long as they are let to play out their little lives. Eventually this will change, as nobody will be immune from the necessary control.

The changes build upon the previous changes, and people grow old, forget and die, and eventually no one knows that anything was any different from what has been purposefully engineered.

It is disturbing to me, the blindness; someone asked, why do they have everything, and we have nothing? How did we find ourselves in this weakened position? Well, you didn't pay attention well enough, you left far too much up to others to decide, all the while saying, I just want to be left alone to live my life as I see fit. It doesn't matter what you want, there are those who have plans for you, for your children and grandchildren, and those plans are coming to fruition. What do your children learn in school, from the internet, from the movies, from their friends, from the church, and when was the last time you really thought much about it, or attempted to do anything about it?

You speak of asymmetric warfare in common conception, but others see it in a much more complex way, and conservatives have most nearly lost said culture war, even as they begin to see some of what is about.

One must make the attempt to conceptualize outside the parameters of the cultural teachings, no matter how much said teachings may mean personally. Only by observing from the outside can one begin to dispel the blindness that comes from being on the inside.

One point to consider; the information I lightly speak of is out there, and even if we have a shooting war, a civil war and vanquish the leftists, it will only be temporary, as they have been beaten before, but they believe, and they come back, even if it takes ten generations they will return to try again.

The way they fight must be understood, much more deeply than what is offered now, if there is any hope of prevailing against them.

I have little faith that what I say here will be accepted as valid, or even understood, but I have a background that assures me that my take on this is accurate. I was exposed to those who were working towards one world government/enforceable world law from when I was a child. I listened, paid attention when they spoke to me, and thought my own thoughts when I became armed with the knowledge that enabled me to do so.

I am sixty seven years old now, and the enemy was working on this before I was born .............. think about how far behind the curve you are.

In my perception, this of which I speak is the ultimate asymmetric warfare, and the winner will gain such power as this world has never seen. If my enemy wins, and I think he will, mankind will endure a new dark age, one quite different than the one most people think of, one that will be damnably difficult to escape.

The man stands in the river, struggling and cursing the strong current, even as the current washes his footing from under him, and when he is inevitably swept away, he knows not why he lost the fight.
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Left wing authoritarians run everything. I donít know how THEIR side came to have EVERYTHING and OUR side came to have NOTHING, but it happened. And now we have to fight it and win, or die.
The left came to control most everything in America because they have been working on it for about 100 years and were mentored and financed by foreign communist governments in the early days. Now days they are financed by home grown billionaires who are "socialists". They may be socialists now because they can read the writing on the wall about who will take over in a few years and want to be on the winning side.

Of course, they could be surprised down the road....

Be Prepared !
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You can study the resistance/partisan movements in Europe for tactics and weapons which were useful. there are plenty of books written at the time and later.

What I'm struggling with is ANY example of asymmetric warfare where a people were able to liberate themselves without extrenal help. Ireland in the 1920's may be an incomplete example.
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