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Old 06-21-2020, 01:23 AM
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So what if they did? they didn't take the police hostages so it's just a building.
Your country is repeating the same mistakes as mine in 2014.
In 2014, we also thought "they didn't take the police hostages so it's just a building.They are just peaceful protesters."

Then they began to seize military bases under the guise of women and children - "so what if they seized a military base, but no one was injured or hostage taken."
Then the captured weapons began to shoot, and the local neighborhoods turned into this:










I do not think that you would like to see your neighborhoods looking this way. We have so far managed to save most of the country because of zero tolerance for such cases - everyone who tries to capture any major office, police station, military facility and so on is considered an enemy, regardless of his nationality, gender or race.
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Your country is repeating the same mistakes as mine in 2014....We have so far managed to save most of the country because of zero tolerance for such cases - everyone who tries to capture any major office, police station, military facility and so on is considered an enemy, regardless of his nationality, gender or race.
Thank You for this testimony - EVERY AMERICAN Needs to Read, and ABSORB this... If it doesn't 'hit you' after one read - Read it till it Does..

..Way too-many here think '...Meh, that's Ukraine - can't "happen, here", well.. It Can - it Has - and it Is.

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Your country is repeating the same mistakes as mine in 2014.
In 2014, we also thought "they didn't take the police hostages so it's just a building.They are just peaceful protesters."

Then they began to seize military bases under the guise of women and children - "so what if they seized a military base, but no one was injured or hostage taken."
Then the captured weapons began to shoot, and the local neighborhoods turned into this:










I do not think that you would like to see your neighborhoods looking this way. We have so far managed to save most of the country because of zero tolerance for such cases - everyone who tries to capture any major office, police station, military facility and so on is considered an enemy, regardless of his nationality, gender or race.
Americans still largely live under the delusion that it could never happen here.
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Your country is repeating the same mistakes as mine in 2014.
In 2014, we also thought "they didn't take the police hostages so it's just a building.They are just peaceful protesters."

Then they began to seize military bases under the guise of women and children - "so what if they seized a military base, but no one was injured or hostage taken."
Then the captured weapons began to shoot, and the local neighborhoods turned into this:










I do not think that you would like to see your neighborhoods looking this way. We have so far managed to save most of the country because of zero tolerance for such cases - everyone who tries to capture any major office, police station, military facility and so on is considered an enemy, regardless of his nationality, gender or race.
I am on you social networking site that yo guys use over there and I talk with quite a few people (I am trying to learn the Russian Language) after speaking with your fellow countrymen and women I have to say that you guys are constantly in my prayers. What has happened to your country is a travesty. And your country is a beautiful place too. I wish to visit one day when I am financially able to but really do not want to spend a lot of time in the big cities like Kyev or Odessa. because the Americans that go there are looked down upon because most of them are just there for sex tourism. I would like to visit in Kyev the 44th Battery which defended Kyev from the Germans in WWII, but mostly I want to visit the country side places. The towns that have all of the charm and beauty.
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Americans still largely live under the delusion that it could never happen here.
All this was done in just 8 years of intense Russian propaganda (and military support) aimed at the poorest region of Ukraine, which lived on social benefits from the budget of Ukraine - “you are Russian people”, “you feed the whole Ukraine”, “you deserve the best”, “Ukrainians want to take away your houses and lands", "Ukrainians consider you second-class people" and so on.
All this happened with the help of local authorities, who refused to fulfill their duties, and the police, which either refused to do anything, or directly supported the enemy. I see something similar in the United States, when the police do not want to notice looters, and local authorities refuse to obey orders.

The Russians cannot afford direct military actions against the US Army - the technical superiority of the US Army is much higher.
But they are very good at (besides not expensive) feeding their propaganda to people who live on benefits and believe that they deserve more than all these whites who own good cars and live in gated communities.
I think that they are quite happy to weaken, or maybe even destroy the United States by the hands of its own citizens.
Russian psy ops were already related to the BLM protests a few years before.
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Facebook said on Wednesday it had found that an influence operation based in Russia spent $100,000 on ads promoting divisive social and political messages in a two-year-period through May.

The social media network said that many of the ads promoted 470 “inauthentic” accounts and pages Facebook has now suspended. The ads spread polarizing views on topics such as immigration, race and gay rights. It appears that Twitter, Google, YouTube, Instagram, Pinterest and other sites helped spread the content.

The popular ‘Blacktivist’ account claimed to be a force for community organizing. Now it looks to have been part of Russia’s effort to influence politics.

“COPS RAID WRONG HOME AND ASSAULTED PREGNANT WOMAN,” the account said in one Facebook post, linking to a story of police violence. “INSANE! COPS PULVERIZED HANDCUFFED MAN” said another. Other Blacktivist posts urged followers to “stand together and end oppression”, saying, “Our race is under attack, but remember, we are strong in numbers”.

The message appears to have fooled bona fide activists, and promoted legitimate Black Lives Matter protests, supporting the notion that cheap social media propaganda can have a significant impact.
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I am on you social networking site that yo guys use over there and I talk with quite a few people (I am trying to learn the Russian Language) after speaking with your fellow countrymen and women I have to say that you guys are constantly in my prayers. What has happened to your country is a travesty. And your country is a beautiful place too. I wish to visit one day when I am financially able to but really do not want to spend a lot of time in the big cities like Kyev or Odessa. because the Americans that go there are looked down upon because most of them are just there for sex tourism. I would like to visit in Kyev the 44th Battery which defended Kyev from the Germans in WWII, but mostly I want to visit the country side places. The towns that have all of the charm and beauty.
You are welcome! Here's a lot of nice places to visit!

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That's a lot of tents. New tents. Brand name tents. How do jobless rabble-rousers afford those?
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That's a lot of tents. New tents. Brand name tents. How do jobless rabble-rousers afford those?
May be their socialist friends order them, may be for money of their foreign sponsors.
Perhaps the US government will be interested, maybe someone received some large amounts of money, which have nowhere to come from and so on.
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Your country is repeating the same mistakes as mine in 2014.
In 2014, we also thought "they didn't take the police hostages so it's just a building. They are just peaceful protesters."
Then they began to seize military bases under the guise of women and children - "so what if they seized a military base, but no one was injured or hostage taken."
Then the captured weapons began to shoot, and the local neighborhoods turned into this:

I do not think that you would like to see your neighborhoods looking this way. We have so far managed to save most of the country because of zero tolerance for such cases - everyone who tries to capture any major office, police station, military facility and so on is considered an enemy, regardless of his nationality, gender or race.
Thanks for the input but this isn't a country that has ever been under the orbit of or ever been the satellite of a larger and more powerful socialist/Marxist country (AKA Russia).

While on the surface these two situations may seem similar, but the surface is where the similarity ends. For starters these CHAZ/CHOP people do not have the support of a large neighboring country looking to destabilize the indigenous population. Our largest neighbor is Canada and the last time I checked there wasn't an ongoing effort to bring the US under it's orbit.

Nope these are homegrown miscreants experimenting with a dangerous idea. It's well contained and all other attempts to do this (occupy) in other locations has fizzled out. So barring any stupidity this too will fizzle out as well, then the feds and law enforcement will move in and pick up the ring leaders and agitators who will then get a nice all expense paid stay in the grey bar hotel. Then Seattle gets back to normal or what ever passes for normal in Seattle.
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The situation isn't funny.....but......this is. Oh gosh I guess it was a peaceful, loving theft.

https://twitter.com/NorthernerPNW/st...606778882?s=20
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Thanks for the input but this isn't a country that has ever been under the orbit of or ever been the satellite of a larger and more powerful socialist/Marxist country (AKA Russia).

While on the surface these two situations may seem similar, but the surface is where the similarity ends. For starters these CHAZ/CHOP people do not have the support of a large neighboring country looking to destabilize the indigenous population. Our largest neighbor is Canada and the last time I checked there wasn't an ongoing effort to bring the US under it's orbit.

Nope these are homegrown miscreants experimenting with a dangerous idea. It's well contained and all other attempts to do this (occupy) in other locations has fizzled out. So barring any stupidity this too will fizzle out as well, then the feds and law enforcement will move in and pick up the ring leaders and agitators who will then get a nice all expense paid stay in the grey bar hotel. Then Seattle gets back to normal or what ever passes for normal in Seattle.
you are correct but they do have the support of the Liberal Democratic party, which is a large portion of our own country.
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The situation isn't funny.....but......this is. Oh gosh I guess it was a peaceful, loving theft.

https://twitter.com/NorthernerPNW/st...606778882?s=20

I don't see the humor in an unplanned donation of ones belongings
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That's a lot of tents. New tents. Brand name tents. How do jobless rabble-rousers afford those?
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I don't see the humor in an unplanned donation of ones belongings
I guess its my dark humor. This guy has been filming and discussing how wonderful CHOP is and then is robbed while live streaming the benefits of the area. Much like the person who had all items stolen from his tent and is told to think of it as an unplanned donation. Karma in full effect usually amuses me....even when its my own.

I have been reading things from people I know talking about what they have seen there.....I am disgusted and deeply concerned. I know this area, I know people who worked hard to beautify this area, I know WA officers being treated like trash and it makes me horribly angry that Seattle's treasonous mayor is lapping it up. It makes me sick.

So if I share some bitter laughter over the "peaceful" criminals robbing each other I won't feel bad. :-)
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An update on the shooting: while nobody knows who did the shooting a Council woman has said that it is probably due to the radical Right, was encouraged by Trump, and the reason the Right wing is so violent is because they have been "historically" sheilded by police. https://mynorthwest.com/1969263/ksha...hooting-chop/?

And yet nobody know who the shooter was or what caused it??!!?? Why would anybody try to whip things up like this?????
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An update on the shooting: while nobody knows who did the shooting a Council woman has said that it is probably due to the radical Right, was encouraged by Trump, and the reason the Right wing is so violent is because they have been "historically" sheilded by police. https://mynorthwest.com/1969263/ksha...hooting-chop/?

And yet nobody know who the shooter was or what caused it??!!?? Why would anybody try to whip things up like this?????

Because these are die-hard RED communists and they must destroy our system to fully implement their communist goals. The council woman WANTS chaos, riots, violence, defunded police, total abolition of ROL. The representatives of WA are advocating this!!! 40-50% of Americans ARE Communists! They just don’t know it.... but they advocate for it! America has been implementing communist programs for decades. What do you think the schools are? Communist indoctrination centers!!!
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An update on the shooting: while nobody knows who did the shooting a Council woman has said that it is probably due to the radical Right, was encouraged by Trump, and the reason the Right wing is so violent is because they have been "historically" sheilded by police. https://mynorthwest.com/1969263/ksha...hooting-chop/?

And yet nobody know who the shooter was or what caused it??!!?? Why would anybody try to whip things up like this?????
to push a false narrative that will fit into their agenda.
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It was my understanding that he was saying the local government was enabling them by giving them different things instead of doing their jobs and going in an arresting everyone. You called it an appeasement he called it assistance.
I'm not much for conspiracy, but blue politicians and media precipitated all of this intentionally. I'm not talking about their ideology and policy even thought it is complicit. I'm talking about their actual statements (lies) which set the BS narrative and incite violence. The media intentionally propagating it while shunning the poignant data and facts that disprove it. Then once the burning, looting, and murder kicks off, excusing it while making law enforcement stand down and prosecuting those who defend themselves.



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An update on the shooting: while nobody knows who did the shooting a Council woman has said that it is probably due to the radical Right, was encouraged by Trump, and the reason the Right wing is so violent is because they have been "historically" sheilded by police. https://mynorthwest.com/1969263/ksha...hooting-chop/?

And yet nobody know who the shooter was or what caused it??!!?? Why would anybody try to whip things up like this?????
Really? She was actually stupid enough to claim that. JHC.....that woman is clearly delusional.

Meanwhile, she along with the rest of the City Council and the mayor are complicit in the crimes being committed in the occupied zone. Chief of police is still disgusting; she took an oath to enforce the laws. If the mayor interferes in her execution of her duties as a law enforcement officer, arrest the mayor for obstruction.
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Thanks for the input but this isn't a country that has ever been under the orbit of or ever been the satellite of a larger and more powerful socialist/Marxist country (AKA Russia).

While on the surface these two situations may seem similar, but the surface is where the similarity ends. For starters these CHAZ/CHOP people do not have the support of a large neighboring country looking to destabilize the indigenous population. Our largest neighbor is Canada and the last time I checked there wasn't an ongoing effort to bring the US under it's orbit.

Nope these are homegrown miscreants experimenting with a dangerous idea. It's well contained and all other attempts to do this (occupy) in other locations has fizzled out. So barring any stupidity this too will fizzle out as well, then the feds and law enforcement will move in and pick up the ring leaders and agitators who will then get a nice all expense paid stay in the grey bar hotel. Then Seattle gets back to normal or what ever passes for normal in Seattle.
Your country does not need to be a neighbor of Russia so that they can arrange such unrest in the United States. They already did this in 2016, trying to organize black riots on the same occasion. Also, it is not a problem at all to pay journalists from left-wing media or magazines like "The National Interest" for articles in the way they need. There are many options for how they can act to influence people's actions. It is relatively inexpensive. Moreover, if the American state will be busy with
even temporary unrest at home, it will pay much less attention to what Russia is doing where it considers a zone of its interests.
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you are correct but they do have the support of the Liberal Democratic party, which is a large portion of our own country.
Yes and no, agree these anarchists may have democratic party support...probably.

Yet support from democrats isn't a lock. Democrats are every bit as divided as republicans, maybe even more so. Neither side has a clear claim to a majority or even a clear understanding of what the majority wants.

Supporting these anarchists would be (or is) a risky play on the part of the democrats and give their track record so far, Russia gate, Muller investigation, Impeachment etc...This could get sideways for them in a really hurry.
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