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Old 10-17-2019, 12:04 PM
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The American experiment which began in 1776 and become reality in 1787 when the founders laid out the constitution at independence hall and it is still an ongoing experiment to this day.

The founders never said it was going to be easy to keep the experiment going, in fact they knew from the very beginning that future generations would have to keep fighting keep it going which is why they gave us the plan and constitution to keep the experiment going.

If we follow the constitution then the experiment will keep moving forward.
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What if it all falls apart? I do not, for the first day in my life, think things can be fixed from within anymore. I do not think I can help fix the system.

What does it look like when it all ends?
Despite the opinions here to the contrary, I don't see any trolling, maybe just more like stating the obvious.

I think it was the same before you and I came here. America has not been the old America for about 25-30 years. That more or less coincides with the internet and cell phone usage and the Bush-Clinton post-Reagan era. What I didn't realize back then is it was in progress before we were even born; it just hadn't got bad enough for us to notice.

Of course we can't fix it ourselves; only the innocence of youth would even allow that line of thought. We were taught that America was the greatest nation on Earth, and possibly ever. But was that true or just wishful thinking? When you look back at all that has been done, the facts don't back it up (not going to add a list here). Today we are caught in the mass media influenced, political correctness, everybody-must-think-alike society. Nobody can take a stand without being represented as a wacko. If they do this much to a sitting President, how much more would they do it to us if we get on a soapbox or run for office? And anyway, the election system is corrupt; and so are the courts.

Trump was sort of the last hope to M-A-G-A, and he's done nothing notable so far, just tied up defending himself. So, yea, it's over and has been for awhile, until it is rebuilt after some major SHTF gives us a clean slate. And let's hope the NWO satan worshippers don't jump in and fill the void.

As for what you can do, well it's too much to list and it's what this site was supposed to be focused on. But that ship has sailed.
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IAMZEKE....scenario bias is not something I thought of. That is a really cool idea to consider, and a way to check your plans. Thanks for that.
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Best place do be when America falls apart is not in America. That is why we jumped off that sinking ship and got a second passport a good while ago.
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Best place do be when America falls apart is not in America. That is why we jumped off that sinking ship and got a second passport a good while ago.
If this country fails, so will the rest of the world in very short order. World War III. Or depopulation as the elitists shall call it.
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If this country fails, so will the rest of the world in very short order. World War III. Or depopulation as the elitists shall call it.

The rest of the world just laughs when Americans say this sort of thing. From the outside looking in, America is not nearly as indispensable as most Americans would like to believe.
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CITIZEN a 12 step program will help assuming you live in Rural Wisconsin. IMHO

#1. -POP some pop corn
# 2- turn on the TV
# 3 -close and lock all windows and doors
#4 -Set BOB and or INCH Bag and relevant supplies in 4x4 truck
#5- Make sure primary side arm is condition 1 and on your person
#6- Make sure Primary Rifle and or shotgun are condition 3 and within arms reach
#7-Get your Bible out and start reading it.
#8-Start Praying A WHOLE lot
#9-Pour yourself a Good stout Drink of your favorite bourbon on the rocks
#10-Call your group of trusted friends and or family together.
#11-Fire up the Grill and start cooking
#12-Watch the REAL Purge live on tv until the power goes out.

JMHO and S/FI!
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ummmm.....its not even a question to me.

"IT" was over before most of us where even born.
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Only if this carefully devised tribalism keeps making people who have 95% in common with each other think they are each others greatest enemies continues unabated is it over
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Only if this carefully devised tribalism keeps making people who have 95% in common with each other think they are each others greatest enemies continues unabated is it over
95% of needs and desires, maybe.

But not even close in motivation, ethics, effort, intelligence, wisdom, faith, or principles.

It happens at the neck. Below it we are basically the same if you account for the two sexes.

But from the neck up we aren't even close.

Sure, the PTB try to warp us, but frankly it works. We spend our days learning about being predator and prey from our own species and the result is billions of lives cranked out only to be wasted.

We are still too feral to evolve.
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Face it, our nation is in the danger zone. Take a look at most of our major cities and look where they are headed. Now the Socialists want to expand this program and move millions more into government slavery with expanded hand outs. Makes me glad I'm old and in my twilight years.
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The rest of the world just laughs when Americans say this sort of thing. From the outside looking in, America is not nearly as indispensable as most Americans would like to believe.
While that may well be there is a lot of civil awakening happening in the world regarding the New World Order and their agenda. We still control a lot of the world's financial and material goods. A little history on World wars will show you that this is how they start.
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It will be good to remember that leftists have a 95%+ success rate. Followed by economic disaster in 15-30 years. Some of us are old enough to not care.
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A review of past civilizations reveals an average existence of 250 to 330 years.
I truly believe the good ole USA is past the tipping point of reaching 330 years.

What about technology solving all problems?
Technology does not cure stupidity or short sighted greed. The Egyptians and a few other major civilizations had technology we still don't understand, nor can we duplicate their feats of construction. It did not inure them from their demise.
The societies that lasted past 750 years, Mayans come to mind, were very primitive, not even a wheel. We have lots of wheels, lots of tools and we are using them to accelerate our divisiveness, our resource depletion, our demise.

Truly, any civilization that makes it to a type 1 would have a good shot at perpetual existence. We have never observed evidence of a type 1 in the universe.
Parting thoughts.
Be kind to your fellow man. Golden rule.
A 28th Amendment that requires corrupt politicians be placed in stocks in public squares where we can met out justice. Likewise thieves, swindlers, other lawbreakers, charge admission for the rocks and rotten fruit.
Return to the land and embrace an agronomic existance.
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OP lacks perspective.

Or was MAD, WWI, WW2, Vietnam, several assassinations, Civil war, Revolutionary war, civil rights war, etc just minor events?
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(I am guilty of creating an intentionally trolling thread before, but I am not trying to do that here.)

What if America is over? I mean it. What if we are some pawn in a fight between Russia and China?

I mean GW Bush put us into a state of constant war, exhausting resources and brewing bad blood.

Obama created and fostered civil unrest to a massive degree.

President Trump is doing what President Trump does.

I have said publicly that I think Americans will be shooting each other in the streets within 12 months. The left is horrible and oppressive, and in many ways so is the right. The pundit class on both sides of this make a profit by creating and trolling this divide.

Today, I realized I am super disappointed in Alex Jones. Look, I think the guy is a bit of a whackadoodle, but for like 20 years Jones was a critic of the powerful elite, all American elected on both sides, and brought forth some pretty cool conspiracies. But, now the guy is almost solely about sticking it to the libs and defending Trump. And you gotta admit if GW did some of the stuff Trump is doing, Jones would lose his mind (in a super entertaining way).

What if it is over? What if every city becomes like Chicago? What if we lose infrastructure like Flint to the point where our water is unsafe?

I joined this board years ago because that was a slow record playing in the back of my head. But, now it is the front of my head.

Now things like EMP, and bug out vehicles, and realizing that living in Wisconsin in the winter if it all goes sideways, might not be good.

What if it all falls apart? I do not, for the first day in my life, think things can be fixed from within anymore. I do not think I can help fix the system.

What does it look like when it all ends? When the power grid fails, when water treatment stops, when hospitals close? Jesus.
Go read some histories of the civil war.

The unfortunate reality is that criminals (including illegal aliens), globalists, communists, socialists, atheists, leftists, gays, lesbians, crossdressers, and muslims are almost completely to blame for what has gone wrong with America.

If every one of these people within our borders instantly dropped dead of a heart attack tomorrow, what we perceive to be society would almost instantaneously heal itself overnight.

It's very easy to identify the problem.
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