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Meet the Army's New Airborne Trucks

The U.S. Army is preparing to test three new trucks.
The trucks are meant to be airdropped with paratroopers.
The truck, known as the Infantry Squad Vehicle, will prioritize speed over armored protection.
The U.S. Army is about to conduct a drive off among three competing trucks, all aiming to become the service's newest ride for paratroopers. The Infantry Squad Vehicle is a high speed, lightly armored truck that will jump with airborne troops out of airplanes and allow soldiers to quickly move off the drop zone.

The U.S. Army has more than a divisionís worth of paratroopers, about five brigades in all. Paratroopers are a forced-entry tool, capable of dropping from airplanes and then moving out to secure objectives. On D-Day, for example, the 101st and 82and Airborne Divisions dropped behind enemy lines to secure bridges and key road junctions that invaders coming over the beach would need to press the attack.

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Looks like a complete, death machine...…...
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Didn't they use those in one of the Jurassic Park movies? LOL.
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Looks like a complete, death machine...Ö...
Well, if they are nimble enough, fast, and able to really handle rough terrain, they're better than what the airborne currently has. It's been said many times, airborne is pretty much a speed bump-type unit if jumping in ahead of other forces.

Heck back in the day, we used the M-151 "jeep" with an M-60 mounted for our vehicle as infantry scouts. Those were pretty nimble and able to handle very rough terrain but were not what I'd call fast at all. Plus you had to be careful as they would easily flip over. But we knew stealth was our friend. If we were scouting ahead, the whole idea was to not ever be seen... or heard.

When we got the HMVEEs to replace them, it required a big learning curve. Those were bigger, noisier, and unable to go many places we could go to with the jeeps. Of course they could go some places faster than the jeeps could. I never played with 19Ds and their mech scout vehicles.
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If you go fast enough the bullets dont hit you and your too quick for the IEDs. In reality its another thing.
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I still like the Cheneweth. Yea the "Rat Patrol" jeep with a M2 was fun. The 106 Recoiless could be useful against stuff the 50 cal would bounce off of.

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They aren't kidding when they say lightly armored.

But if speed is the goal then I can see the desire to shed weight.
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Heck back in the day, we used the M-151 "jeep" with an M-60 mounted for our vehicle as infantry scouts. Those were pretty nimble and able to handle very rough terrain but were not what I'd call fast at all.

Depends on whether or not the governer was removed/disabled
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They aren't kidding when they say lightly armored.

But if speed is the goal then I can see the desire to shed weight.
also the weight reduction due to dropping from a plane
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Cant be worse the the jotv program....how in the hell do they make something more complex with a nitrogen ride setup and still make it smaller inside
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If you go fast enough the bullets dont hit you and your too quick for the IEDs. In reality its another thing.
It would definitely suck against IEDS/mines but, if it's fast & quiet, it could prove useful for getting a team quickly to an objective. With a 50 cal. or tow missile mounted on top it could have some defensive/offensive potential but, it's basically a fast way to transport a fire team.

Obviously it won't outrun a bullet but, a fast moving & maneuverable target IS harder to hit. I wouldn't expect these to replace armored Hummers but, it has a legitimate use.
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If they're just looking to get where they are going faster and don't mount a larger weapon on it, why not drop a crate load of motorcycles with them? They'd be more compact, go through more terrain, be smaller and lighter, and more fuel efficient. The armor level is similar.
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Looks to be small arms and RPG friendly .
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If they're just looking to get where they are going faster and don't mount a larger weapon on it, why not drop a crate load of motorcycles with them? They'd be more compact, go through more terrain, be smaller and lighter, and more fuel efficient. The armor level is similar.
As a life long dirt biker, I've always thought a dirt bike mounted cavalry would be cool. Most of the non-racing bikes these days are very quiet & any sub-300lb dirt bike making 25-30 H.P. can climb sweet hills & power over deep sand 10 times faster than a man on foot.

With a .50 Cal. or a tow missile mounted on it however, these new trucks would probably be better than dirt bikes.... other than a dirt bike being a smaller target that could escape under tighter/rougher conditions.
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I still like the Cheneweth. Yea the "Rat Patrol" jeep with a M2 was fun. The 106 Recoiless could be useful against stuff the 50 cal would bounce off of.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/534591418240549050/

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WOW - so my old GI JOE buggy is really a thing? I always liked the look of that over all the other toys.
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My uncle charlie was a courier for Patton. He rode a Harley WLA. Didn't do him any good when the bunker took a direct hit from a 88 at Anzio. He raced Indian before the war.
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If they're just looking to get where they are going faster and don't mount a larger weapon on it, why not drop a crate load of motorcycles with them? They'd be more compact, go through more terrain, be smaller and lighter, and more fuel efficient. The armor level is similar.
Soldiers in a larger vehicle with one driver can return fire and remain together.
Individuals on motorcycles, not so much.
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Soldiers in a larger vehicle with one driver can return fire and remain together.
Individuals on motorcycles, not so much.
The way they’re packed into the back with gear hanging around them on some rigs, I’m not sure they can see anything, much less return fire.

I wonder how crazy it would be to flip the seats around, almost back to back in the middle, facing out, like that one rig is set up?
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As a life long dirt biker, I've always thought a dirt bike mounted cavalry would be cool. Most of the non-racing bikes these days are very quiet & any sub-300lb dirt bike making 25-30 H.P. can climb sweet hills & power over deep sand 10 times faster than a man on foot.

With a .50 Cal. or a tow missile mounted on it however, these new trucks would probably be better than dirt bikes.... other than a dirt bike being a smaller target that could escape under tighter/rougher conditions.
The Army toyed with the idea of motorcycles. If I recall correctly, it was going to be a scout thing. I haven't heard if it went anyplace but I guess it didn't.

The Marines were testing motorcycles to be used as a sort of courier-type deal. We saw them at 29 Palms while on a month long exercise in late 1976 or early 1977. Never heard much about them after that. But some Marine spec op teams had used them in Afghanistan and the Pentagon had looked at a hybrid dirt bike in 2014 but again, I don't know how the study turned out. For all I know, motorcycles are being used in special teams.
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