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The problem is that this is a wholly disingenuous process. If Congress wanted to gauge the effects of proposed legislation, their first stop, in a truly probative environment, would be to consult with experts with aggregated data, not to harass an unwilling individual who, at best, can provide anecdotal evidence.

That is to say, if they REALLY wanted to gauge the effectiveness of proposed legislation, they would look at decades of data gathered from thousands of sources and analyzed by the most brilliant economists and social scientists the world has ever seen, not pester one man for his tax returns, then use them as a microcosm from which to extrapolate the possible ramifications to 330 million other Americans and 7 billion other people worldwide.
One would also think they would have some proposed legislation to gauge the effects upon. They do not. Just more harassment for an already unjustly beleaguered President.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:26 PM
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You don’t have the right to keep your finances secret from the government.

The people we elected to write the laws wrote and passed those laws long before Trump took office.

Any one of us would have our tax returns immediately turned over to congress. Why should trump be any different? It’s the law.

By the way, the IRS admitted that they almost exclusively audit people at the bottom of the economic ladder in lieu of the top 1% because it is simply too complicated and labor intensive to audit the rich.
The IRS does not have the funding, or the talent pool to audit the rich. Chances are good, NOBODY has gone over Trump’s finances recently, or at least with any depth, regardless of his claims to the contrary.

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Once again, more of your lies due to your TDS. The IRS goes after larger earners because they have the most likelihood of gaining more revenue from them. Trump and his businesses would not hire 137 tax attorneys if no one was looking at his finances. Any inquiries from Congress are simply harassment, and a fishing expedition.

You seem to only be able to kibitz about the President because you don't like him, for reasons you never outline. Perhaps you could start a thread about why your life would be better if Trump was impeached/removed from office. And what the urgency is that can't wait for the next election to remove him the right way?????????????? (hahaha, if you can!!)

If you are, indeed, a Communist shill, that would explain a lot!!
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Trump has been audited yearly by the IRS for the last decade or two, but that's not enough for the rabid leftists, they want to use his financial records as a political weapon against him.

If they are granted such power then none of us are safe.
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You don’t have the right to keep your finances secret from the government.
The IRS is not the government? TDS on display once again.

Showing Leftists once again have no concept of limited government - or separation of powers. Congress is supposed to make laws, not be prosecuting attorney, judge, jury and executor.
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The reason so many celebrities have tax problems is the convoluted, patched together nature of tax laws. Willy Nelson does not get one W2 form and a 1040EZ. ten experts would file ten very different tax forms for most celebrities

no matter what the result is somebody somewhere will find a flaw in it.

IMHO there should be a quid pro quo: if you demand to see the presidents tax returns, post your tax returns or divorce papers or birth certificate. you want to get, you got to give.
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Not only that, he most likely has full time IRS auditors working on his taxes
The way the Democrat luck has been - with Russian collusion, Stormy Daniels, his lawyer being raided, his campaign manager being raided, Mueller Report, etc - IF Trump's financial records are released, it will be found he'll be owed a BIGGER refund.
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Congress is supposed to make laws, not be prosecuting attorney, judge, jury and executor.
when is the last time they did that? can you tell me anything congress has done since 2018? not counting obsessing about Trump
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+1 it's a political fishing expedition. With both parties gearing up for the 2020 elections the Dems are looking for a hook. They can't mount an effective campaign against his track record based on facts because the fact is so far Trump done a decent job of running things.

In my opinion, the only reason they're interested in his tax records is they're looking for 60 second ads and sound bites to run nationally in the up coming presidential race.
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Why bother arguing with leftist trolls like Mostinka and joblo?
They are following their masters playbook on spreading FUD and disinformation.
It's a waste of time even reading their drivel.
yep, I don't care what anyone says, I'm done being nice or polite to asshats.
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People talk about the IRS and accounting firms like they are machines: feed the information into the front and the results pop out the back. If that were true, no one who has their taxes prepared by an accounting firm would ever be found guilty of tax fraud or any kind of criminal behavior that is linked to income.
If Biden's kid got $900K from a Ukrainian energy company, would the IRS find anything wrong with the payment if Biden's kid reported the income and paid taxes on it? Most likely not. If the money resulted from Biden using his political influence to get his kid the money, would the Reps in Congress agree that no wrongdoing occurred? Most likely they'd be screaming like chickens with their tail feathers on fire. What does the IRS know about Joe Biden's activities as VP? Most likely next to nothing.
I doubt that the Dems want Trumps tax information because they believe that he violated tax laws.
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Nope. it's legal. But the fact it's a bug up his ass is just icing on the cake.
It’s beyond comprehension why any hospital would allow you, with such a twisted psyche, to be ANYWHERE near patients.
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When was the last time the IRS was audited ?

When was the last time Pelosi was audited ? Never mind found the answer.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...-when-she-runs
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Its my understanding it isn't the IRS who is conducting the Trump tax investigation. Its the NY State Tax department. This is a whole different matter since the states have their own independent system.
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The way the Democrat luck has been - with Russian collusion, Stormy Daniels, his lawyer being raided, his campaign manager being raided, Mueller Report, etc - IF Trump's financial records are released, it will be found he'll be owed a BIGGER refund.

It will be interesting to find out if that's the case. If so, then I'd be 100% in favor of him getting the refund he deserves.

But I do think he's not the kind of guy that would leave a refund on the table.
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I just got done reading the FOIA dossier of Mario Salvia , a 22 year old US citizen and first ammendment rights / peace activist who was tracked by the FBI most of his adult life because the FBI thought he was a communist.

Additionally I read the FOIA of author Edward Abbey (author monkey wrench gang, Hatduke, etc).

Indeed the FBI accessed the IRS records of these ordinary citizens.

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Its my understanding it isn't the IRS who is conducting the Trump tax investigation. Its the NY State Tax department. This is a whole different matter since the states have their own independent system.
Let's be real here. The State of NY is doing it in collusion with the Democrat Party behind the facade of a suspected crime.
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A decade of searching for that GD birth certificate, that Trump as a civilian just HAD to get involved with.
The Dems and NY state, who the Trumps have been screwing over for generations are just getting warmed up in the quest for those tax returns.
Karma.
If Obama were born in Kenya, he should not be allowed to become
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Trump, on the other hand, has no obligation to make his Tax returns
public. We both know, that the most private parts would be made
public if the Democrats in congress get them.
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A decade of searching for that GD birth certificate, that Trump as a civilian just HAD to get involved with.

As a “civilian”, that makes Trump the employer of Obama. Trump had every right to look into his employee’s birth certificate issue. If you possessed only a modicum of intelligence, you might have realize that.

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The Dems and NY state, who the Trumps have been screwing over for generations are just getting warmed up in the quest for those tax returns.
Karma.
“Karma”, LoL. Actually it’s liberals and anyone pushing that nonsense, just being being bat **** crazy.
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As a “civilian”, that makes Trump the employer of Obama. Trump had every right to look into his employee’s birth certificate issue. If you possessed only a modicum of intelligence, you might have realize that.



“Karma”, LoL. Actually it’s liberals and anyone pushing that nonsense, just being being bat **** crazy.
I agree,

As recent Employer of Donald Trump, I would expect him to be subjected to the same scrutiny as any Federal employee with potential access to top secret information. This includes a complete background check, SF86, investigation into his background and those of his associates. This. includes determination of sources of income, loyalties , and potential susceptibility to blackmail.

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Let's be real here. The State of NY is doing it in collusion with the Democrat Party behind the facade of a suspected crime.

You're not from NY are you?

New Yorkers know what Trump is all about. He's home grown. In this case, if anyone know what the difference from wheat from chaff, it will be a New Yorker.
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You're not from NY are you?

New Yorkers know what Trump is all about. He's home grown. In this case, if anyone know what the difference from wheat from chaff, it will be a New Yorker.
Originally from Pennsylvania.
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