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Old 10-09-2019, 11:44 PM
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I want a sewing machine. I want one that can sew leather, as well as heavy canvas.

Funny story, but the high school I attended (frickin decades ago), demanded that all students take Home Economics. 1/2 the year was cooking and 1/2 the year was sewing. I graduated High School with some domestic skills!

Do you think this is a good sewing machine?


https://www.amazon.com/4452-Accessor...ct_top?ie=UTF8
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I think it has plastic guts. 10% of the reviews say its junk. I like my 1951 worm drive Singer - it will do 9 plus layers of heavy fabric.

I also like my Speedy Stitcher. Will do about anything though slowly. Big needles with 6 to 20 strands of dental floss or Tandy Leather artificial sinew. Carbide jaw needle holder helps.
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https://www.maryjanesandgaloshes.com...wing-machines/


We’ll kick off our top 8 sewing machines for leather reviews with a heavy duty, all-round workhorse from Singer, the highly respected 4423.

With a durable metal frame and a stainless steel bedplate, this Singer is built for serious mileage. Although it’s heavy, it’s not particularly bulky so you’ll get the best of both worlds.

Capable of an impressive 1100 stitches per minute (spm), this is not a machine for beginners. The extremely powerful 105-watt motor makes this raw power possible.

You’ll get a wonderful automated experience with the 4423. The needle is threaded automatically just as the bobbin will wind with a single push of a button.

The 1-step buttonhole is the easier of the two types generally available.

Four presser feet are thrown in:

All-Purpose Foot
Buttonhole Foot
Zipper Foot
Button Sewing Foot

From making simple alterations to creating garments from scratch, the 4423 is a versatile powerhouse coming in at an extremely good price.

If you want a no-nonsense machine capable of sewing leather without breaking the bank, the Singer 4423 sewing machine should certainly be on your shortlist.

Pros
Frame and bedplate built to last
Extremely fast: 1100 spm
Great variety with 23 automatic stitch choices
Perfect for drapery and upholstery
Automatic needle threading and bobbin winding for total convenience
Very reasonably priced for such quality
Singer Sewing Assistant app gives excellent instruction

Cons
Not suitable for those just starting out
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Vintage Singer 201's are hard to beat.

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vintage really is hard to beat... unless something is wrong, then it can be a nightmare to fix. That Singer heavy duty is ok, ive got one and its done a lot... but i turned to my mom's mom's Kenmore 77 when i needed to sew up my canvas hot-tent.
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FWIW, I have a Sailrite walking foot machine for auto upholstery, multiple layers of vinyl and welting and piping and french seams. I did not buy it new but used from a guy who made canvas and rip-stop bags for bike riders, saddle bags and dog carriers and such. Paid $300 and it was like new even tho several years old.

I also have a few older Singers---201, 301, and 15-91. All those should sew thru at least for or five layers of denim or canvas/duck easily and such machines can be obtained for cheap at flea markets an dsuch places. Usually a good cleaning oiling and maybe rewire the pedal if needed. Only had to replace the magnet brushes in one machine once.

I see the Toyota denim machines advertised a lot but don't know if they have a walking foot or not. You may wish to determine if you need a machine with a walking foot or not.
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You can get some great old all-metal Singers at thrift stores for next to nothing. You don't need lots of different stitches for basic work on heavy material. I bought a Singer Model 15 at a Thrift last week for $5.
My dad's hobby was rebuilding old boats, so he showed me how to do upholstery work. Now I make and repair all of my camping equip.
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This site is amazing, it seems whatever project I have going I find a thread talking about it.

Iíve been looking for a heavy duty commercial grade machine and started learning about them from scratch. The machine I see most is a Consew 206rb, and I like what I see. I see some for sale by me in the $600-800 range. The thing I like most is they seem to be rebuildable and can be modified to suit pretty specific needs. I donít want one I have to throw away if something on it breaks, and these have good parts support.
I was looking at the Juki machines and theyíre really nice, but really expensive, more than iím Willing to spend for the project I have lined up.
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I want a sewing machine. I want one that can sew leather, as well as heavy canvas.



Funny story, but the high school I attended (frickin decades ago), demanded that all students take Home Economics. 1/2 the year was cooking and 1/2 the year was sewing. I graduated High School with some domestic skills!



Do you think this is a good sewing machine?





https://www.amazon.com/4452-Accessor...ct_top?ie=UTF8


This sounds like a decent no electric option:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zawvl5ZZIdI&t=158s
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This sounds like a decent no electric option:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zawvl5ZZIdI&t=158s


That thing is completely awesome!!!!

You just threw a wrench in my selection process.
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if you can find a used Necchi, they are all metal and pretty robust (been around for many decades so they are cheap and abundant). I sewed 7 layers of heavy marine vinyl on mine just to see if I could...most new machines are plastic geared electronic junk, IMO...
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That thing is completely awesome!!!!



You just threw a wrench in my selection process.


Sorry about that
Iíve been looking into them since I first saw that video and it seems like itís got a lot to like especially the hand operated part post-shtf. Do a search on YouTube Iím sure youíll find a few more videos, at least one pointed out some assembly issues that were easily fixed.
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Look for industrial singers from the 50s

Heavy duty large flywheel and spare parts. The other thing you may consider is finding one with a big enough throat and feed system to get in larger projects.

Lastly be safe the singer we had would punch light steel and could take your hand off.
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You're probably not looking for new, but https://www.sailrite.com/ would let you explore the capabilities of and options for sail and awning capable sewing machines.

Then you could look for a used one ;-)
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Check out DOD surplus auctions
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This site is amazing, it seems whatever project I have going I find a thread talking about it.

Iíve been looking for a heavy duty commercial grade machine and started learning about them from scratch. The machine I see most is a Consew 206rb, and I like what I see. I see some for sale by me in the $600-800 range. The thing I like most is they seem to be rebuildable and can be modified to suit pretty specific needs. I donít want one I have to throw away if something on it breaks, and these have good parts support.
I was looking at the Juki machines and theyíre really nice, but really expensive, more than iím Willing to spend for the project I have lined up.
We have a Consew 225 that is 30 yrs. old and still going. Has sewn chaps/horse blankets/nylon halters and God only knows what else. Look for a commercial machine that is used and tuned up. Most home machines won't hold up to real work. Too bad that we are not close as I am about done with mine.
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I would think these can sew just about anything. Used to find them at everyones grandmothers house. They are still cheap. At least the ones I have come across over the last few years.
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There are hand operated sewing machines available designed for doing shoes.
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This sounds like a decent no electric option:

$115 Leather Stitching Machine (AMAZING) - YouTube

I have one of these. They go by a few different names. (Shoe patcher, leather patcher, cobbler's sewing machine, chinese handcrank sewing machine.)

It's a great little machine but you cant use it straight ot of the box. Every brand that is sold on amazon is from china so they need some work to get them working properly. There are a few videos on YT how to set them up and mod them to tun better.
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My brother had a commercial machine (I don't know what brand) and it had a clutch rather than controlling motor start and speed.
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