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Old 10-08-2019, 12:34 PM
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Another Russian calling card. “From within”. Yup, the Mexicans are taking over. That’s the real danger right?
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Another Russian calling card. “From within”. Yup, the Mexicans are taking over. That’s the real danger right?

No, actually the looney left and the DC Swamp is the real danger. But props to you for figuring out my motives, as I sit here and post from Moscow.

Oh by the way, the "Mexicans" are taking over in my part of the country and the state is the laughing stock of the nation.
Maybe you're not familiar with the disaster known as California.
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The fear of big bad ISIS coming to our shores to kill our families is irrational in my opinion, but I understand the military-industrial complex needs its boogeyman and they are it, for now.

The real threat to America comes from within.
An ISIS that regains strength will attract followers.
Those followers could include someone down the street from you.
And that’s how they could bring their sand people fighting here.

The stronger and more powerful a radical group becomes the more likely it is to convert people to joining them.


We shouldn’t be the worlds police, but once we are in we need to stay in.
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An ISIS that regains strength will attract followers.
Those followers could include someone down the street from you.
And that’s how they could bring their sand people fighting here.

The stronger and more powerful a radical group becomes the more likely it is to convert people to joining them.


We shouldn’t be the worlds police, but once we are in we need to stay in.
Could being the key word... could does not frighten me, sorry.

"once we are in we need to stay in"... for how long?

Another month?
Another year?
Another decade?
Or eternity?
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Not the first time he has claimed he was going to pull out of Syria. It's one of those cards he keeps up his sleeve whenever he needs a distraction.
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Theoretically this could be moved to the religious section. For those that read and study bible prophesy you know what I'm inferring.
From the same people who scoff at climate change.

I will wait until I see it on the Simpson's. It has been more accurate.
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The Kurds have been fighting and dieing for the US since the first Gulf War. They endured poison gas attacks by Sadaam . Bush already double crossed them once.

In terms of being an ally, I would consider them on a par with Israel.

I was reading that we recently convinced the Kurds to pull back from their northern defensive fortifications with assurances that the US would be able to prevent any Turkish incursion. This was done in an effort to sort of appease both sides.

If that's true and now we just pickup and leave and let Turkey have at them then that's such a huge betrayal of an ally.
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Could being the key word... could does not frighten me, sorry.

"once we are in we need to stay in"... for how long?

Another month?
Another year?
Another decade?
Or eternity?
So you don't carry a gun, wear a seatbelt, have smoke alarms...

Just because Could happen is so silly right?


Why have a wall, just because some Mexicans could cross the border?
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Not the first time he has claimed he was going to pull out of Syria. It's one of those cards he keeps up his sleeve whenever he needs a distraction.
In 1991 I said we would be back someday to finish the job. Problem is, we never left. Nor have we finished the job. But a lot of brothers and sisters have paid the price for the ineptness of those who decide.
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... we need to stop putting our junk in the yellow jacket nests and focus on securing the nation's borders and redirecting military funding to infrastructure improvements and building systems to further stimulate the economy and basic job skills.

All we're doing now is getting all the hate of imperialism with very few of the benefits, while losing lives in multigenerational conflicts that no one in charge had the will or vision to actually win in the first place.
This ^^^

The height of arrogance is the belief that we can fix the world. The world doesn't want fixing, by us or anybody else.

What we can fix is our porous southern border, our crumbling infrastructure, and stop taking sides between the various moslem sects.

Why do we want to get between the moslem kurds and the moslem turks?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds#Religion
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They will continue fighting each other a hundred years from now and they don't need our help. We have wasted far too much money and lives of service people to go on with this fiasco. The place will never be stable no matter what we do. Thank you for showing some common sense, President Trump.

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Because we have alliances. And some allies have put everything they had including their lives to support us.

Turning our back on them so they can get slaughtered is not good.
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They will continue fighting each other a hundred years from now and they don't need our help. We have wasted for too much money and lives of service people to go on with this fiasco. The place will never be stable no matter what we do. Thank you for showing some common sense, President Trump.
Just a hundred years? This crap has been going for 1400+. It will go one for another 1400+. As long as there is one Sunni and one Shia or whatever other sects there are, they will fight.

The only thing that has changed in 1400 years to the weapons they use.
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So you don't carry a gun, wear a seatbelt, have smoke alarms...

Just because Could happen is so silly right?

Why have a wall, just because some Mexicans could cross the border?
Come on Old Put, we all know seatbelts and smoke alarms are proven to save thousands of lives every year, so ofcourse I'm a big fan...

LOL do we even have a wall, because I bet 14 million illegal aliens would disagree. Maybe we should beef up the border with those ME troops.

But you're right, our troops should stay in the Middle East for all of eternity on the possibility that ISIS might send a couple of their turds to America. [sarcasm]

Maybe you should head over there to help.
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Come on Old Put, we all know seatbelts and smoke alarms are proven to save thousands of lives every year, so ofcourse I'm a big fan...

LOL do we even have a wall, because I bet 14 million illegal aliens would disagree. Maybe we should beef up the border with those ME troops.

But you're right, our troops should stay in the Middle East for all of eternity on the possibility that ISIS might send a couple of their turds to America. [sarcasm]

Maybe you should head over there to help.
There are 10,000 ISIS fighters in prison over there, guarded by the Kurds.
If the Kurd prison guards have to go fight/defend against Turkey, then a ready to go ISIS army may hit the streets again.
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Another Russian calling card. “From within”. Yup, the Mexicans are taking over. That’s the real danger right?

No, actually the looney left and the DC Swamp is the real danger. But props to you for figuring out my motives, as I sit here and post from Moscow. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]

Oh by the way, the "Mexicans" are taking over in my part of the country and the state is the laughing stock of the nation. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.survivalistboards.com/images/smilies/thumb.gif[/IMG]
Maybe you're not familiar with the disaster known as California.
You mean the biggest producing state in the union? Highest gdp growth? Like the the5th biggest economy in the world?
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That goof who thinks he runs Turkey has been trying for years to blackmail the EU into letting Turkey's hookers, dope, and cheap labor flood into Europe and the US. Recently he threatened to open Turkey's borders to allow ISIS into Europe. You can't believe anything he says until he backs it up.
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The divide within Islam is deep. Globally, Islam is roughly 85% Sunni. Iran is unique in being 95% Shia. The establishment of a mythological caliphate would first require Sunni nations to defeat Iran and 15% of their own populations. Not to mention India (only 14.2% Muslim) which is another very complicated wrench in their works. That war would leave the entire region in ruins. Like Syria, but on a much larger scale. It's a Mexican standoff. This is the reason we haven't taken out Iran.

No doubt Russia will seek to capitalize on ME conflict any way it can, but in the end TPTB in Russia hate Islam and so does China. Islam hates everyone but themselves. They will not tolerate each other long term. You lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. The Russians.. are playing Russian roulette. We have been there and done that. Time to walk away. When their oil dries up, the ME will go back to the stone age if they don't kill each other first. I don't say that with malice. I feel truly bad for good people who are living there, but it is what it is. We can't fix their problems.

Terror organizations have felt empowered to attack the US because they aren't attached to a nation state. Our wars against them have cost us dearly, but make no mistake, it sent a clear message. I've seen immigrants from Iraq have panic attacks when planes fly over. No nation want's a gloves off war with the US. Even the largest nuclear arsenal can't match the devastation of things we have growing in petri dishes that I pray to God never see the light of day. I agree with the other poster who said our biggest enemy is within. Loss of our identity and commitment to our own nation.
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We are pulling out but could use the area as a test bed for weapons launched from other areas. Don't waste any lives on the ground any longer.
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What we do not know is the strategy behind the withdrawal.
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