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Old 10-04-2019, 08:14 PM
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I used to ride. I enjoyed it for several decades. I started in
the 70s. Then I noticed that many people were more interested
in texting and driving, than looking for Motorcyclists.

I recommend you drive like an Ass hole, and get a loud
exhaust. Be noticed.

I now enjoy a convertible. I never liked helmets anyway.
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Congrats.

Stay alert and if you're in a rural area like me, watch out for them critters. I know the roads by me and where there's more road kill than elsewhere and I toot my horn going down those roads.

I have a older Dyna Low Rider (1998) and a new (2 weeks) Triumph Street Scrambler.

Love the Triumph. The Harley may not see as much road time.
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I've rode a slew of Honda's in the 70' and 80's a Yamaha a Harley super-glide and now a Triumph Rocket 3 (2300cc).
Loved them all for one reason or another.
Third generation Harley owner also , so what, I say ride what you want.
My only regret is there are so many I didn't get a chance to own before my body started wearing out.

There are jerks in all walks of life ...I try to avoid them.
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You can pay less for a capable duel sport than it costs to buy BMW luggage.
Thereís no BMW in my future. Iím thinking small Japanese single. The Yamaha TW200 looks like fun. I have short legs.
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The thing I fail to understand about sport bikes is the extreme rear fender clearance. We did a lot of off road riding in my day and fenders were never a problem. I see bikes on the road with fairings and normal front fenders with those high rise rear fenders??
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I have owned five motorcycles a Harley 61, a Triumph Thunderbird 650, a Triumph Bonneville 650, a Harley 74 Superglide and a MotoGuzzi SP1000.

My favorite the Triumphs, lightweight, nimble and fast. I didn't learn about counter steering until I bought the Superglide, I thought I was just leaning the bike to steer.

I commuted the hwy 129 dragon to UTK when I was the only bike on the mountain. In fact I don't think I ever met another bike on that mountain.
Same school as me. Had most of my classes on the Hill, so the bike was a remedy for no parking spaces. Instead of Alcoa Highway, which seemed almost suicide on a bike, I took Old Broadway. With no cops and nearly no traffic, I could wind it up to ninety, blast up the Hill and park it near the bike rack in front of Hesler, so no need to buy a parking pass, also no traffic jams.
I couldn't understand why so few students rode bikes. There were times when it could take two hours to find a parking spot in a car.
For the OP, I've ridden two larger scooters, and the main problems were that there wasn't a tank to keep you from sliding forward in a hard stop, and with the motor in the back, when you get on the brakes hard, the back end either wants to come up and over or slide around and change places with the front end.
Most of the bike crashes I've seen or read about weren't the rider's fault For some reason, people can't recognize bikes the way they can cars. Few weeks ago a guy was stopped on a road with his blinker on waiting to turn left. Older guy in a truck hit the back of his bike at about fifty, shoved him into oncoming traffic and he was run over by TWO trucks. Broad daylight and the guy who hit him from behind said that he didn't see the bike. I mounted a small LED panel below my bike's tail light that flashes orange in an irregular pattern as long as the brake light is on.
Keep your head on a swivel and watch out for cars pulling out in front of you and shoving you off the road as the merge into traffic.
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Here lately Ive been wanting a dual sport Suzuki 650 for the SHTF stuff, but noone wants to give me what my KN900 is even half worth, and I aint givin it away. But I would rather have something that is fast enough for street but with off road capabilities.
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Double down on protective gear and good leather boots that cover the ankle. Good gloves saved my hands when I was 19, got caught in a shower on my Sportster. A truck stopped short in front of me and I had to dump it. I was scraped up, was wearing jeans and a jeans jacket, both were toast. The bike, I lost a foot peg and the chrome took a beating. Good thing I was going pretty slow at the time.

I'm thinking about building a new bike after I retire, been a while.
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Re: loud pipes

I've heard this(no pun) many times.
Since the pipes stick straight back,its only the cars behind them that hear it.Many times I've been behind a Harley with straight pipes at a red light.Can't hear my radio.
Yet when they are appoarching you,can't hear it till your passing them.

Am I wrong?...loud pipes wear you out riding also,and can't hear whats going around you.

Congrats to the OP for the bike.
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Am I wrong?...loud pipes wear you out riding also,and can't hear whats going around you.

Congrats to the OP for the bike.
Folks can tell themselves what they need to, but loud pipes arenít about safety. Theyíre for show.

If you like an obnoxiously loud motorcycle, have at it... but donít count on the noise to keep you safe.
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Burgmans have great brakes, corner decent, and get along as well as many bikes, great fun to ride and able to haul some gear if needed. They are incredibly practical, have on board storage, decent range and are generally loved by their owners.

I have sportsbikes and dirtbikes, but can more easily see the appeal of a burgman over something like a harley

Loud pipes are a poor excuse for posers to annoy the crap out of 99% of the people around them while looking like peacocks

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The thing I fail to understand about sport bikes is the extreme rear fender clearance. We did a lot of off road riding in my day and fenders were never a problem. I see bikes on the road with fairings and normal front fenders with those high rise rear fenders??
Over the decades, back tires have gotten wider and wider. It seems to
be a selling point. They sell more bikes if that tire is not hidden.

Some people ride because they (like the OP) want to enjoy it, or want
to save money on gas.

Others ride to compensate for a tiny penis. They buy macho bikes,
and put down others who don't. Putting a huge rear tire on display
is part of that. They even sell bikes that use a huge American V8
as the motor, get lousy gas mileage, yet are slower than a normal
rice rocket.

Riding a motorcycle can be a way to express yourself, which is why
some can't understand why a man would buy a scooter.

What I don't understand is, why someone would spend 30 grand on a
wonderful Harley that looks great, yet ride down the road a hundred
pounds overweight.

We all have different priorities. Mine is to spend all the money I put into
social security. It will never happen but I can try.
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Re: loud pipes

I've heard this(no pun) many times.
Since the pipes stick straight back,its only the cars behind them that hear it.Many times I've been behind a Harley with straight pipes at a red light.Can't hear my radio.
Yet when they are appoarching you,can't hear it till your passing them.

Am I wrong?...loud pipes wear you out riding also,and can't hear whats going around you.

Congrats to the OP for the bike.
When I mentioned loud pipes, I was not talking about straight pipes.
I said get a loud exhaust, which is louder than stock, but still has
more sound deadening material than a straight pipe.

My Bike was able to be fairly quiet when the RPMs were down, but
when I was in traffic I would be in a lower gear so they would not
forget about me.

Harley riders with no mufflers irritate the F out of me also.
Especially when I used to work at night and sleep during the day.
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I told a friend of mine who manages a local motorcycle dealership that I have always wanted to buy one. He told me to stop by when I had the time and so I did.

I have ZERO riding experience and he suggested the Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive as a beginners bike. If I like it, bring it back and buy a bigger one next year.

I said if I can pass the test and get a license, I'd take it. Passed it easily and 20 minutes later came back bought it.

I'm having the time of my life on this thing. It goes from zero-60 mph in a few seconds. I've had it just a week and have already put 300 miles on it. It get around 60-70 mpg's.

My son who rides a Harley laughed at me, but I love this bike.
I'm a little late getting in the thread!

Congratulations on the bike!

Please be careful and look and think way, way ahead!

And please, once you're an accomplished rider, please save up your money and buy a real bike.....

Ain't nothin' like packin' a big ole HOG between your legs....


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Sign your organ donor card.

I had issued with bicycles growing up - hit by a car + plus going over the handlebars multiple times. Nothing that landed me in the hospital.

I don't see any reason to own a motorcycle. You're free to do as you please I just don't think it's a good idea for someone that is responsible for others.

That being said - I've heard nothing but good things about the Basic Riders Course put on by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation:

https://www.msf-usa.org/brc.aspx

I'm not sure if it's still the case but military bases used to require this class in order to ride a motorcycle on base. I've talked to some serious motorcycle guys that all recommend this class for both new and experienced riders.
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The thing I fail to understand about sport bikes is the extreme rear fender clearance. We did a lot of off road riding in my day and fenders were never a problem. I see bikes on the road with fairings and normal front fenders with those high rise rear fenders??
Styling. That's all it could be. The rear wheel suspension travel is nowhere near the foot of clearance between the tire and rear body work.

IMHO it's a pain in the butt. You need to stand on a milk crate in order to swing your leg over.

I'm an old retired guy who just bought a new sport-touring bike. I've been riding since the middle 60s, mostly dirt.

Practice emergency stops using the front brake. Once the back wheel loses traction the bike will swap ends and you will go down.
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I had issued with bicycles growing up - hit by a car + plus going over the handlebars multiple times. Nothing that landed me in the hospital.

I don't see any reason to own a motorcycle. You're free to do as you please I just don't think it's a good idea for someone that is responsible for others.

That being said - I've heard nothing but good things about the Basic Riders Course put on by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation:

https://www.msf-usa.org/brc.aspx

I'm not sure if it's still the case but military bases used to require this class in order to ride a motorcycle on base. I've talked to some serious motorcycle guys that all recommend this class for both new and experienced riders.
I took the version of that course they had back in the last century.
I highly recommend it.

Its very important to learn how to counter steer because novice
riders will tend to panic steer into a car that pulls into their path
without it.

It's also important to know that the road can be the most slippery (in warm
conditions) right after it starts raining, and the oil in the middle rises to
the top. This is one reason its often not a good idea to ride in the middle of
the lane (depending on the situation). Cars leak more oil in the middle of the
lane.

I used to have a headlight modulator on my old BMW R100. It was a good
way to get noticed. Gradually they have become legal in most states if not
all.
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Remember………………………..
There are two kinds of riders...…………….
Those, that have had wrecks...…………………..
And those, that are gonna have wrecks...…………


oh, and one more thing...………
In a wreck.…. the biker, always loses...…….
Old wives tale.

I’ve rode for years, no wrecks.
My uncle, now since passed away rode into his 80’s
Started out on a J model, he was riding since the start...
He rode in the snow, a rope wrapped around the rear tire and wheel for traction.
That guy out on the miles over the years, did coast to coast more than once.
Never laid it down or wrecked.

That’s an old mommy story to try to keep their little boys from getting on a bike.
You have a greater chance of death in a bike crash but the number of bike crashes is far lower than cars.

I can call out of bed and break my neck, I’m not going to stop sleeping and I’m not going to stop riding either.
This time of the year is awesome here in the northeast, great weather, less people out traveling, just more to see and experience on a bike.
Life is too short to not enjoy it.
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Rice burners don't count....
Everybody has their thing. I prefer mounting Italian supermodels
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The last Harley I rode was a 93 or 94 FLHS, gear shifting was still clunky like my 76 Superglide and my MotoGuzzi SP. I was at a Rider Rally in Knoxville, TN and rode most of the Yamahas 650cc and up. The Yamahas shifted gears smoothly with little effort and no clunk. I don't know why Harley and Guzzi can't do the same.

Sport bikes are not economical unless you can find some cheaper tires and ride with more sanity. Good tires for cornering cost more than car tires and don't last as long. Elbows are the new knees in the sport bike world.
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