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Great job ignoring the ammonia rinse comment there and going for the easy target.

You do realize that the vast majority of people can not afford to buy beef and grind it themselves?
Yup, plus all those canned and frozen products that contain ground beef the list goes on and on and then there's all those burger and taco fast food joints.
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Yup, plus all those canned and frozen products that contain ground beef the list goes on and on and then there's all those burger and taco fast food joints.
And then you have that "stuff" in Jack in the Box tacos.

I'm not sure it is actually meat, but damn it is good.
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And then you have that "stuff" in Jack in the Box tacos.

I'm not sure it is actually meat, but damn it is good.
Oh yuck! Those are the single most horrid tacos ever! Unless...

it's 3 am That's the only time they're anything resembling good, lol.

Dairy Queen actually has decent tacos too. I was shocked.
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Oh yuck! Those are the single most horrid tacos ever! Unless...

it's 3 am That's the only time they're anything resembling good, lol.

Dairy Queen actually has decent tacos too. I was shocked.
You have to know how to get them. The sauce they squirt on them is awesome. The sauce in the little packets suck. You have to go inside and demand they squirt extra sauce on them. The counter people are like children and think they can offer you packets of sauce instead, because they don't have a button to press for extra sauce and demanding they squirt extra in means one bozo going back in person to personally tell another bozo verbal instructions. It's really rather comical how difficult this simple instruction is to get accomplished. Don't even try with window service. If you manage to finally get this all across then your tacos will taste great but they are a sloppy mess and you don't want to go driving with them or let them soak too long by driving them home. You must eat them there as soon as they are done. I know, inconvenient. Just try it once anyway. Fresh made, eaten fast, and with only their squirt bottle sauce they are sublime. Trust me on this. The sauce is awesome on the Jumbo Jack too as long as it is the only sauce on the burger. Again though with the usual problem of them trying to foist those nasty packets instead of their bottle of squirt sauce back at their taco making station. Expect much consternation to ensue with simple instructions. But at least this will survive travel back home or can be eaten while driving. For the life of me I can't get them to understand their sauce in the squirt bottle and the sauce in the packets aren't even remotely close.
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When I was a kid and wiener content was not disclosed a cafe across from our school sold an awesome hot dog. It was butterflyed, grilled and served on a toasted bun with a decent squirt of mustard. It was yummy, I wonder what I was eating that is no longer in wieners. Fried bologna was yummy too, not the same now that we have labels.
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Great job ignoring the ammonia rinse comment there and going for the easy target.

You do realize that the vast majority of people can not afford to buy beef and grind it themselves?
We buy whole chuck roasts on sale for $2.99/lb.
That's cheaper than the pre-ground packaged burger.

The store will usually grind it for you if you just ask.

There's no "ammonia rinse".
It's a gas, not a liquid.
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The difference is what ammonia rinsed beef will do to your health and what real beef will do for it.

I bet you think TV dinners are healthy for you too, right? .Gov says they're okay so they MUST be, right?

Just because you prefer to be ignorant about what goes into your body and what your family is eating, does not mean the rest of us don't have a right to question things.
LOL
You're falling for the media BS.
Grind your own meat and there are no problems.
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Frankly I fail to understand why people bother to post when they don't have a clue.
I often wonder the same thing.
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https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/pink-slime.htm

Just list it on the ingredients label.
People have a right to know what they are buying and eating.

I prefer not to eat ammonia and salmonella. You can have my share snypey.
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You're falling for the media BS.
Grind your own meat and there are no problems.
But that doesn't work for canned chili and soups, frozen foods containing ground beef and fast food restaurants. There will be a lot of pink slime served that your simple fix doesn't doesn't address. But that was never your motive when you entered this thread was it?
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You're falling for the media BS.
Grind your own meat and there are no problems.
Again, some people can not afford thst even if it is roast.

Why do you have such an issue with people wanting things clarified on labels?
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But that doesn't work for canned chili and soups, frozen foods containing ground beef and fast food restaurants. There will be a lot of pink slime served that your simple fix doesn't doesn't address. But that was never your motive when you entered this thread was it?
His answer will be to not eat them.

That's all fine and dandy but there are truly hardworking people put there they can't afford to eat fresh all the time. Hell, we make good money and can barely afford it sometimes.
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There's no "ammonia rinse".
It's a gas, not a liquid.
Ammonia gas is introduced at the same time water is. So yes, it gets a diluted ammonia rinse.

Justme11 already posted the exact process, but that doesn't stop you from churning out falsehood, does it?
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But that doesn't work for canned chili and soups, frozen foods containing ground beef and fast food restaurants. There will be a lot of pink slime served that your simple fix doesn't doesn't address.
I don't eat any of that stuff.
You don't have to either.


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I have no "motive" other than to stick to the facts.

What you want to call "pink slime" is still beef.
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His answer will be to not eat them.

That's all fine and dandy but there are truly hardworking people put there they can't afford to eat fresh all the time. Hell, we make good money and can barely afford it sometimes.
It's cheaper to eat at home than to eat out.

If I could "barely afford to eat" I would dump the internet and use that money for food.
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Ammonia gas is introduced at the same time water is. So yes, it gets a diluted ammonia rinse.

Justme11 already posted the exact process, but that doesn't stop you from churning out falsehood, does it?
I've not said anything false.

"Pink slime" is still just beef, and they use Ammonia gas, not liquid.

Which of those things are "false"?

That pretty much covers the majority of what I've said.
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I've not said anything false.

"Pink slime" is still just beef, and they use Ammonia gas, not liquid.

Which of those things are "false"?

That pretty much covers the majority of what I've said.
Ammonia gas very quickly becomes ammonium hydroxide liquid in the presence of moisture.
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Ammonia gas very quickly becomes ammonium hydroxide liquid in the presence of moisture.
Yes it does. That's precisely what they want it to do:

https://study.com/academy/lesson/amm...mula-uses.html

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If you follow the news, you might recall some stories about fast food restaurants using 'pink slime' as meat. Though this description is admittedly gross, it's also a little misleading. This so-called 'pink slime' is meat that has been treated with ammonium hydroxide.


But don't panic; ammonium hydroxide is an extremely common chemical compound used in more ways than you'd probably expect.

Specifically, ammonium hydroxide is made up of ammonia and water to form a new solution. The formula for ammonia hydroxide is (NH4)OH, or you may see it written as H5 NO. It's a colorless liquid that shares a similar strong odor with ammonia. Ammonium hydroxide is alkaline, meaning it has a high pH, so it can be used to neutralize acids.

Ammonium hydroxide is found naturally in the air, water, and soil, and even inside humans and plants. Our own organs produce ammonia as do beneficial bacteria in our intestines.

It even plays a role in protein synthesis. Though ammonium hydroxide is a natural compound, we also make it by diluting ammonia with water.
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Q: Is ammonium hydroxide in food processing a safe substance?

A: Yes, provided it is used in accordance with good manufacturing practices (e.g., only food grade ammonium hydroxide is used). It has been used safely for decades. As noted above, FDA affirmed ammonium hydroxide as GRAS after extensive study back in 1974, and it had been used in food processing long before that date.
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You do realize that using ammonia or ammonium hydroxide or any other substance sounds strange to the average person?

Yes we do. We understand the negative perceptions around words like ammonia, but it would be a mistake to stop using such an effective and proven food safety measure.

Ammonia is an essential component of all life. Simply put it is nitrogen and hydrogen together and it is a key element in our entire ecosystem. So, it naturally occurs in all foods, in some cases at pretty high levels (example: 1,376 parts per million in domestic blue cheese).

In addition, it has been widely used in the food industry for a variety of reasons for decades. Just like all foods, ammonia, in the form of ammonium hydroxide, is naturally occurring in beef and, even after the slight increase resulting from our pH enhancement process, it is only present in small amounts (200 parts per million or less in ground beef) compared to many other common foods you eat every day.
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Like I said... Label the damn food that contains it.

I don't want to eat ammonium hydroxide.

The one article I posted said prisoners complained about the ammonia smell of their meat.

So they used less ammonia. Then the prisoners got sick from the salmonella.

because the scraps used to make pink slime have a way higher bacteria count. Because the trimmings accumulate for some time between collection times.
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Since snyper had nothing worthwhile to offer is he possibly a paid troll? After all he has no skin in the game as he admittedly don't eat that stuff, makes one wonder what's he doing here.
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