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Old 09-27-2019, 05:45 AM
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This is concerning. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/t...rime-minister/
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“Owning a firearm is a privilege not a right,” Ardern said Friday.
Translation: The defense for one's own life, family, home, and community isn't a right either.
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Trump has to be smart enough to know that any Anti-2A actions on his part would alienate his base, which is all he has supporting him. He can't afford to lose that.
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Trump has to be smart enough to know that any Anti-2A actions on his part would alienate his base, which is all he has supporting him. He can't afford to lose that.
What about after the election if he wins?
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Why even discuss something like that if he wasnt considering it? I support the president I dont like somethings he has done but I am happy that "she" didnt win. That being said he wont need us IF he wins re election.
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What about after the election if he wins?
Because congressional Republicans can't afford to support someone who is anti 2A.
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“Owning a firearm is a privilege not a right,” Ardern said

1) While that might be true in NZ it isn't here

2) I could give two craps what she thinks

3) I didn't purchase any firearms from the government nor did I enter (written or implied) into a contract with it upon purchasing them stating that it had the right to forcibly buy them from me, with my own taxpayer money no less. Therefore I'm not legally bound to sell them to it, forcibly or otherwise.
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Translation: The defense for one's own life, family, home, and community isn't a right either.
In New Zealand maybe, but not here in the US. Here it's a right! The Donald knows that..
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Isn't he meeting with other country's leaders at the UN? Did he set up the meeting to discuss buybacks or did he meet with the prime minister of NZ and they brought it up? What else did they talk about? Sheep exports? I bet she brought up climate change too.

Details.
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Translation: The defense for one's own life, family, home, and community isn't a right either.
Translation: Maybe in NZ , it IS a RIGHT in the USA - get over it already!
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In light of Trump's performance as POTUS so far I feel like there's a 50/50 chance he's either a Patriot or a gun grabbing TRAITOR. With the Candidates we have for 2020 that is clearly the very best option we have, as all the others have made it very clear they are 100% Globalist Traitor scum!

It doesn't really matter who the President is that illegally bans guns because the response will always be the same. Armed rebellion, hang the Traitor & reinstall the Constitution.

God bless America & DEATH to her enemies, foreign AND domestic.
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So how's all that 'new' gun legislation going these days. The demonrats are chomping so hard at the impeach bit they forget to try and do anything else.

Meanwhile I think Gropy Joe has stepped into the Ukraine trap and will soon be pushed aside by Proctohauntus. Burnout Sandanestia will just take money, like he did when Hasbeen Hilarity and DNC screwed him the last time.
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Let's just stay the course and not WTF everything to death on what ifs. JmHO and S/FI
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These anti-gun people just keep spreading the same lies.

* No "need" baloney. I guarantee that NZ PM (and her extended family) is guarded by a team of heavily armed men with top tier weaponry. So for her there's no perceptive "need." What about commoners?

* Lies about compliance and a "positive result."

And more.

Tire deeply of their lies. I equally tire of nobody challenging her? "Mrs. PM, are you not guarded by men with guns? Why is your life more valuable?"

I voted for Trump and continue to support him. I read nothing into his discussion with her about the buyback. I, too, if I could have a conversation, would be "interested." Not supportive. Not considering it. But "interested." Trump is the best POTUS perhaps in my lifetime or longer, but he will lose if he promotes any real gun control and we will get a Democrat. He must surely know that.
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“Owning a firearm is a privilege not a right,” Ardern said Friday.
Translation: The defense for one's own life, family, home, and community isn't a right either.
If the point of the right to bear arms is to stand against the government.

Then it is also the right to shoot up a school.

Because who is going to stop you? The government?

If you support irresponsible people owning guns, cherry picking responsible gun use no longer works as an argument. Because there is no limit on what someone with the right to a gun can use a gun for.
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These anti-gun people just keep spreading the same lies.

* No "need" baloney. I guarantee that NZ PM (and her extended family) is guarded by a team of heavily armed men with top tier weaponry. So for her there's no perceptive "need." What about commoners?

* Lies about compliance and a "positive result."

And more.

Tire deeply of their lies. I equally tire of nobody challenging her? "Mrs. PM, are you not guarded by men with guns? Why is your life more valuable?"

I voted for Trump and continue to support him. I read nothing into his discussion with her about the buyback. I, too, if I could have a conversation, would be "interested." Not supportive. Not considering it. But "interested." Trump is the best POTUS perhaps in my lifetime or longer, but he will lose if he promotes any real gun control and we will get a Democrat. He must surely know that.
Accountable men with guns. They don't have a right to it. They have a responsibility.
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If the point of the right to bear arms is to stand against the government.

Then it is also the right to shoot up a school.

Because who is going to stop you? The government?

If you support irresponsible people owning guns, cherry picking responsible gun use no longer works as an argument. Because there is no limit on what someone with the right to a gun can use a gun for.
translation = knives and boomerangs kick ass!
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If the point of the right to bear arms is to stand against the government.

Then it is also the right to shoot up a school.

Because who is going to stop you? The government?

If you support irresponsible people owning guns, cherry picking responsible gun use no longer works as an argument. Because there is no limit on what someone with the right to a gun can use a gun for.
Ummmm, no.

It was perhaps put best by Abraham Lincoln, who knew a thing or two about Civil War:

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"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
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The people have a right to own firearms. The right does not descend from the government. Ergo, the government cannot remove that right.

That said, there are also laws of the land which the people, broadly, through their legislators, have approved. The people are responsible to abide by those laws which they themselves have approved. If they behave irresponsibly with respect to the laws, then they will suffer whatever penalty is adjudicated by the Courts under the laws.

Ergo, people have a responsibility not to shoot up schools, etc.

The right to own firearms and the responsibility to obey the laws of the land are not incompatible.
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If the point of the right to bear arms is to stand against the government.

Then it is also the right to shoot up a school.

Because who is going to stop you? The government?

If you support irresponsible people owning guns, cherry picking responsible gun use no longer works as an argument. Because there is no limit on what someone with the right to a gun can use a gun for.
You are intellectually retarded.
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What about after the election if he wins?

He will likely win and when he does we WILL see lots more anti-gun policies pop up via Congressional law or Executive Order. The D.C. puppets have their orders and gun control is at the top of the list. Doesn't matter if the puppet is male, female, black, brown, or orange -- guns are the target.
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