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Old 09-26-2019, 10:00 PM
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I've used CorrosionX for years. Waxes like Johnson's or Renaissance Wax work well. A few of my old crocks have been coated with linseed oil, as a consequence of freshening up a wood finish. Easier to remove than Cosmoline, but still messy.

Food dryers work because there's a continuous flow of air to carry evaporated water away. A safe is closed up - no air flow.
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Golden rod --



One of these things -- cat approved --



Mine drys out in 6 to 10 hours -- every 2 too 3 weeks -- are all the holes & seams closed ? Door gasket foam ?

Top two #'s inside the cabinet --

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So I am looking for an unpowered moisture management system for my gun locker. For reference, it is located in a indoors closet within a climate controlled house. Moisture seems minimal but my current descant is getting saturated every few weeks. While its super easy to recharge I would like to use a system that requires less attention. Current system is a "Pro Breeze Renewable Cordless Mini Dehumidifier" rated for 333 cubic feet (locker is approx 2ftx3ftx4ft) for 20-30 days which plugs into the wall and "recharges" in approx 24-48hrs.
Your ac system must not be working well if desiccant gets saturated in your safe. I use recycled activated alumina beads from a compressed air dryer and have never had moisture control issues in my safe. I live in South Georgia.
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What is this “humidity” of which you speak?

High desert here. My gun safe is full of guns. Nothing else. And no rust.
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The concern is the metal. Even oiled the metal surfaces will oxidize/rust a bit over time. If you have wood stocks in the cabinet, 40-50% humidity is recommended..
Any good gun oil will prevent rust.
The OP wants something that can be used without electricity.

I've never done anything special to control humidity, and 40-50% isn't going to happen where I live without power.
Right now it's around 89% outside.
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Not unplugged but another vote for golden rod. I store several guns outdoors in southern humidity. I whipe them down with kroil once a year and keep a golden rod burning.
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I dont use a Golden Rod anymore. Seemed like with the heater my hydrometer would read higher humidity. Maybe just a coincidence IDK but now I use 2 Evadri's and a can of orange desicant and so far so good
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I put a small night table lamp in my gun safe. I put a 40 watt appliance bulb in the lamp. This works well for me. BTW: It is in a dehumidified dry basement.
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I live on a river and an Evadri in the safe keeps the moisture in check. Using a good CLP like Breakfree wice a year and a quick wipe down with CLP after handling also helps, as does maintaining an even temperature in the room your safe is sitting in. While it may not completely eliminate your rust problem it will go a long way in dealing with it.
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To reiterate....heating the safe does NOTHING about humidity.

What it DOES do is stabilize the temperature, make it slightly higher than surrounding temps, and keep that humidity from condensing on the guns and causing rust.

Yeah, the words and science aren't "exactly correct". This was the layman's explanation.
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One thing that I hope everyone knows is that if you put a cold gun into a warm, humid environment it will condense moisture like crazy.
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One thing that I hope everyone knows is that if you put a cold gun into a warm, humid environment it will condense moisture like crazy.
Best remedy for that is to keep a case out in the cold (if youre not using one with the gun), for just that sort of thing.

Bring it in in the case and let the case come to room temps. You wont see any condensation.
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Best remedy for that is to keep a case out in the cold (if youre not using one with the gun), for just that sort of thing.

Bring it in in the case and let the case come to room temps. You wont see any condensation.
I hunt in cold weather and once the gun is out in the cold it stays out in the cold until I'm done hunting. I use a hard case and do pretty much the same thing. Once I'm done with the hunt and packing up to go home the rifle stays in the case until it warms up.
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To reiterate....heating the safe does NOTHING about humidity.

What it DOES do is stabilize the temperature, make it slightly higher than surrounding temps, and keep that humidity from condensing on the guns and causing rust.
Heat rises and circulates the air inside -- put the air drying thingy at the top so the warmed air passes it thus drying -- the cooler-dryer air falls -- repeat - repeat --

When I laid up the vette for the winter I kept a 100 W drop light just off the floor mat -- circulated the air but did nothing to dry it till I put 10 coffee filters filled with silicone based cat litter across the dash board -- once a month I dump them in her cat box and replace -- with a hydrometer it was never over 45% humidness
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Buck91, here's you another option and I may do this myself. Just put the silica gel in a small plastic can, perhaps with perforated lid or in cotton draw bags and you're done. They are rechargeable..

https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Premiu...9694050&sr=8-4

Here are some 5x7 draw bags. One should be enough..

https://www.amazon.com/drawstring-re...67999124&psc=1
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Went to the local FFL the other day and found a perforated can full of desiccant intended for gun safes. It was $18 and honestly not that big. So, I decided to go with my suggestion above. Bought the gallon of desiccant and the draw string bags in the links I posted. I filled one bag up and put in a tupperware bowl (just in case) and put it in my safe yesterday afternoon. Just over night it's dropped the humidity in the safe 8%. I my opinion this is the way to go. It's a lot cheaper overall and you get a lot more Dessicant, if you need it..

You could also do this with ammo cans. Just find some smaller cotton drawstring bags.
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Crystal kitty litter in a small plastic pail with lid, perforate the lid with holes.

example - This is virtually identical to the commercial desiccant but much cheaper per lb., link just an example, there are cheaper versions, I bought a big bag at Walmart
https://www.chewy.com/scoopfree-prem...AaAgEVEALw_wcB

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vibrant-L...-lbs/771020427

Plastic pail and lid
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite...9314/203925985
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite...-203926074-_-N
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One thing that I hope everyone knows is that if you put a cold gun into a warm, humid environment it will condense moisture like crazy.
And that is why I have a small homemade gun rack OUTSIDE the door of my hunting cabin and no they don't spend the night out there!
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