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Old 09-23-2019, 04:37 PM
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My security six in 4" SS with oversize pachmyers feels like an extension of my hand.
I couldn't guess how many thousands I put through it and the action is still tight.
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Speed 6 or Service 6 for me. The GP is a bit too much of a good thing, and the SP is a tad light.
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Thanks for the ideas so far. What about a nice laser sight system for any of the models suggested so far?
The kimber K6 can be purchased with laser grips from crimson trace. You may want to look at the 3 inch version with an exposed hammer. They make hammerless and 2 inch versions also.
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Smiths 686 and Ruger either GP 100 or the blackhawk (and redhawk) are going to be your most common responses with reason. I do believe the blackhawk is single action only. Ehh? might not be a big deal, but I like having options. I was in the same boat 5-6 years back obsessing over revolvers because I knew I would only get one. So it had to be the perfect one at a reasonable price. Went with GP 100 and haven't been disappointed. While I know the Smiths have a better trigger, you can always get a trigger job done on the GP 100. Look at the thickness of the steel right above the cylinder on the GP 100's. They are just built to last. Didn't even break the bank to get it. Glad I did. By far my fav handgun to shoot.
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+1 on the GP100. If its your first it will probably be your last. Built like a tank, for sure to out last you. Nice heirloom also.

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If you don't mind a fixed sight gun Aim Suplus has these LEO trade ins for sale. A S&W model 65 stainless steel.

https://aimsurplus.com/leo-trade-in-...gnum-revolver/

And this model 64 38 special.

https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-...8spl-revolver/

I know you said 357 but after just a few boxes of 357 you will do what most do and shoot the lighter recoiling and less expensive 38 specials. The 38 was used for close to one hundred years as an LEO round and works as well now as it ever did.

And don't let the fixed sights turn you off the gun. I have a model 65 357 myself and the sights are perfectly regulated for 158gr bullets. Bullets in the 110-125gr loadings will shoot a little lower on paper but I for the most part have gotten better accuracy with the heavier bullets anyway. I have several adjustable sighted handguns but once sighted in I never touch the sights. Here is a good read for the new user or occasional handgun user.

https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharri...20Revolver.htm

The laser sight is probably something you can get along without. Save the money for ammo and a good holster.
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If you don't mind a fixed sight gun Aim Suplus has these LEO trade ins for sale. A S&W model 65 stainless steel.

https://aimsurplus.com/leo-trade-in-...gnum-revolver/

And this model 64 38 special.

https://aimsurplus.com/smith-wesson-...8spl-revolver/

I know you said 357 but after just a few boxes of 357 you will do what most do and shoot the lighter recoiling and less expensive 38 specials. The 38 was used for close to one hundred years as an LEO round and works as well now as it ever did.

And don't let the fixed sights turn you off the gun. I have a model 65 357 myself and the sights are perfectly regulated for 158gr bullets. Bullets in the 110-125gr loadings will shoot a little lower on paper but I for the most part have gotten better accuracy with the heavier bullets anyway. I have several adjustable sighted handguns but once sighted in I never touch the sights. Here is a good read for the new user or occasional handgun user.

https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharri...20Revolver.htm
38 special isn’t bad. And if the gun can shoot plus P the ballistics are not bad.

That said it’s nice to have the option to shoot either. 38 is better for the range. 357 for a carry gun
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38 special isnít bad. And if the gun can shoot plus P the ballistics are not bad.
The model 10 I linked to can shoot all the +P you want to shoot in it. And if you can find the original loadings of 38 special which is hotter than the crap they sell as +P it will handle those too. Plus P ammo is for the most part a joke. Very little of it is really loaded hot.

This is the best read on 38 Plus P you will ever find.

http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.co...-saxonpig.html

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38 is better for the range. 357 for a carry gun
When it really counts most do their best shooting with 38 over the 357. It takes a seasoned shooter to take full advantage of the added power of a 357.
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I am one of the few that will rave about the Taurus. I opted for a 44mag for my first, big caliber revolver, but didn't want to spend a fortune. I love the gun. It is actually fun to shoot at the range, is really accurate and functions to perfection.

I would imagine a Taurus in 357 mag would be just as good.
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Lucky gunner tests federal Micro HST 130 grain 38 special plus P from a kimber K6 2 inch barrel and a ruger gp100 4 inch barrel.

The velocity was 824/854 on a 5 shot average BUT the average penetration through denim into ballistic gel was 13 /14 inches and the bullets all expanded. The other plus P they tested all worked pretty good but not as good. I would feel
Very comfortable trusting this ammunition.

Some of the standard 38 special did ok , but seam to expand a little less. The 357 loads expanded considerably more.

The results are here

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/rev...llistics-test/
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Like everybody else is saying,
Get a Ruger.
If you run out of bullets , you can beat them to death with it.
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Love the 357 I have a GP 100, SP 101, 2 Blackhawks 1 with convertable cylinder for 9mm, Rossi ranch hand in 357, and a K6 hammerless the best of the bunch is the GP 100
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I love my Ruger GP100 Match Champion with adjustable sights. All the goodness of a regular GP 100 but a little trimmer with a MUCH better front sight. Only thing I don’t care for is the supplied large wooden grips. Put that set on my full lug 6” and stole a set of old model full size original grips with the inserts. But since Ruger reintroduced the compact grips I’ll soon have one. That I think will make my Match Champion a perfect all around revolver.
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This will date me... If you can find them, a S&W Model 65 stainless steel revolver is still one of my all time favorite revolvers. They have a fixed sight system on them so there is nothing to break or knock out of alignment. It's a plain but good looking revolver with the wooden grips that works well for most shooting needs.
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This will date me... If you can find them, a S&W Model 65 stainless steel revolver is still one of my all time favorite revolvers. They have a fixed sight system on them so there is nothing to break or knock out of alignment. It's a plain but good looking revolver with the wooden grips that works well for most shooting needs.
Mentioned and linked to in post #26. Reading the whole thread before posting really helps. And yes they are are excellent guns. I like mine a lot.
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I've had my Ruger SP101 for many years and just love it! Its customized for concealed carry with bobbed hammer and front sight cut off. Its stainless steel with a 4" barrel. Very comfy to carry.
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per lock Smiths or Ruger.
My favorite revolver, however, is a limited edition Ruger GP100 chambered in .44 Special with a 5" barrel, made for Lipsey.
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Some shooting ranges have handguns that you can rent. You might check out some ranges in your area and try out a few revolvers. You might also check out some of the gun stores in your area and see what feels good in your hand.

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per lock Smiths or Ruger.
My favorite revolver, however, is a limited edition Ruger GP100 chambered in .44 Special with a 5" barrel, made for Lipsey.
Ive got a Lipsey 44spl too. Mines a Magna Ported 3" S&W 696.......



Magna Porting still sucks too. Wish they hadnt had done it. Great shooter though.


Something you hear a lot of with the 357's, and may want to consider is shooting 38's out of them. Im not a fan of the practice, and shoot what the guns are chambered for out of them, and for a couple of reasons.

Its not that you cant do it, just it can be a real problem, especially if youre lax in your cleaning/maintenance, as a steady diet of 38's in the 357's, and not constant attention to the "ring" in the chambers, can make chambering 357's a chore to impossible and extraction "sticky".

The other issue I've had, has been leading in my 357's shooting 38 LSWC's. Dont know why, but I dont cast my own, and the hard cast I shoot in my 38's, seem to want to lead the chambers and bores of my 357's when shot out of them. The same loads don't lead the 38's, which I find strange.
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I load .38 spl +P loads in .357 Mag cases. No ring, less recoil.
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