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Old 09-10-2019, 08:47 AM
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I have only ever used steel cased through my Ar15. It shoots just as well as with brass..... IN FACT, it would seem that my AR shoots MORE accurately with Wolf Polyformance than Federal brass cased Ball. Wolf PF is the ONLY non-brass I have ever used.

You Guys/Gals have good experiences with PISTOL non-brass?

I always figured that aluminium ammo would not feed well. Am I wrong?

What kind of steel/Aluminum works best for you?....... and which guns do you have that will or will Not cycle it well?

I love this forum, I cant get a straight answer from anyone on most of the gun forums. I tend get solid advice here.......... Thanks for reading and your feed back.
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Iíve used aluminum cased ammo, wouldnít hesitate to use it if thatís what was available.
Only thing about aluminum I donít like is when I got home and took my pistol apart there were aluminum particles inside. I donít know if they were scraped off when it was feeding or if the shock of firing caused pieces to flake off the case.
Just blew them out with compressed air
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I prefer using brass ammo in my pistols, 9 mm semi autos of varying size and makers.
I have used aluminum Federal Champion ammo. I have never used any steel cased ammo.

That said, the last time I used the Federal aluminum cased 9mm we suffered multiple fail to feeds on guns that have preformed flawlessly before. We shot through 2 boxes and don't plan on using it again.

Brass only for me now.
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I use steel cased 9x19 frequently. I cannot get steel cased .223/5.56 to feed or fire in any of the ARs. Not sure why, but it’s very baffling and intermittent. So, I just shoot brass.
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This is my only failure in 10s of thousands of rounds. I fired it in my PA-10 and (thank goodness) had no damage as a result.



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No one can predict what may or may not work well in your guns.
I've seem more problems with aluminum cases than with any other type though.
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I've run aluminum case thru my glock with no problem.
Buy a few boxes and see how it works in your gun.
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The only time I ever had a FTF during practical pistol competition ( using a 9mm Glock) was when I was using aluminum ammo, and when I go into a competition I go in with a clean and well-oiled gun. Only happened one time, but I make it a point not to use it anytime a FTF would be a big deal. In fact I just don't even buy it anymore.

Steel shell casings should be popular with our smiling liberal comrades because it's biodegradable. So if you get in a debate on gun control with a liberal nitwit tell her that you use bio-degradable shell casings to protect the environment and maybe you'll get some points for that. Like you might be one of those right wing gun nuts, but at least you care about Mother Earth.
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We have fired several thousand Tula and Wolf steel case 9mm. Never had any kind of problem at all. At $139.00 a thousand shipped it is cheaper than reloading.

My gun guru tells me that it maybe a little hard on the extractor but other than that it is good to go. As to accuracy it shoots better than I can.

I also have and use both in 5.56 but don't shoot that much so no real data.
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I've never liked shooting it, not because it isn't accurate, or at least not all of it is inaccurate, but that you can't really reload it. In a dire situation and you had a berdan primer decapper, you could, but that's a desperate last PITA resort IMO. Much of it also tends to be quite dirty ammo, some with corrosive primers too, although there are more with non-corrosive primers than some years ago. Another big factor for me is that it's just going to wear out parts faster than brass, or even aluminum. I keep spare extractors & ejectors, etc. but why intentionally wear them out faster? I'd rather use easily reloadable ammo that isn't as hard on a weapon than steel is. I have maybe a couple hundred rounds of it, but that was just more of a get it since it's the only 223/5.56 I've seen on a shelf in months (during the ammo shortage) & also just to make sure my AR will eat it if I need it to. At my local indoor handgun range, I use aluminum case Blazer ammo as most of the cases fly past the shooting line & can't be retrieved. Other than that I stick with brass. As always, YMMV.

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I shoot steel cased ammo in my Glocks and Sigs no problem, just be prepared to replace the extractor and barrel earlier than with brass cased ammo.
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I shoot steel and aluminum in my pistols; Glock, Taurus, various ComBloc guns. No issues. The Hi Points are especially happy with steel, they like the price, it matches their general place in the gun world.

I have one AR that doesn't like steel. The others are all fine with it.
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Not all steel cased ammo is Berdan primed.
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Not all steel cased ammo is Berdan primed.
Yep, here is some.



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I've had mixed results.

Through my old 1911 (First gen RIA 45), steel case of all kinds were the most unreliable, followed by aluminum, and finally brass. I don't think I ever made it through a box of any ammo with that gun without a malfunction of some sort though, so take it for what it's worth.

When I worked with the local sheriff's department, we got a batch of the Winchester Forged Freedom (Or whatever it's called) steel case stuff.

-Sig P220 didn't care
-P320 (40) had a couple issues, but was acceptable for training ammo
-Colt Gold Cup had one hiccup, but made it through a couple hundred rounds
-G17/19/26/22/23 didn't care
-Beretta 92 didn't care
We used that up and went back to training with White Box


I've used some Herters(?) aluminum case 9mm on my own in a couple guns.
Beretta 92 had no issue. S&W Shield 9mm didn't like it. Ruger LC9 had the same issue.

I shoot Tula steel case through my AR and have only had a couple issues.


So there's my experience.
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I use brass for the most part. I've run into split cases a few times with Federal nickel plated stuff, 38/357 but never in brass. Only steel I've used is some Russian x39.
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Works great. If I didn't reload I would never buy brass.
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Considering this is a prepper forum you'd figure some would understand the usefulness of being able to reload pretty much anything if the need were to arise.

But, I guess some just by their ammo from Walmart (or ustacould anyway) and have no experience otherwise, so down yet another bunny hole this thread goes.
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I only reload brass.
LOL. Amateur!

Maybe if you worked on your reading comprehension and listened, more than babbling BS at us all the time, you might actually learn something.

Yea right, what was I thinking.
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I tried it once in one of my AR's, shot alright, but I reload brass. In a SHTF World, I would use it if that was what was available.
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