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Old 07-20-2019, 07:54 PM
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imho that 357 is superior to the 10mm. A semi-auto load (10mm) requires a hotter load to make the etracting/ejecting apparatus work properly. a 357 can not only be used with a .38 round but it operates well with a lower power load, which saves wear & tear on the weapon, as well as the casings (important if you are hand reloading). A wheel gun is much more forgiving of minor imperfections in hand loads that would hang up in a semi-auto. A lower power load has less recoil hence greater accuracy.
Give me a couple speed loaders and I'll choose my 357 every time for practical use. Don't get me wrong, my Glock is sweet but its simply not as practical for survival purposes
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imho that 357 is superior to the 10mm. A semi-auto load (10mm) requires a hotter load to make the etracting/ejecting apparatus work properly.
No it doesn't. A 180 grain 10mm bullet at 1200 FPS is an original standard load but even 40 S&W ammunition works perfectly well in the Glock 20.



a 357 can not only be used with a .38 round but it operates well with a lower power load, which saves wear & tear on the weapon, as well as the casings (important if you are hand reloading).
Hmmn just like a 40 S&W can be used in a 10mm. Imagine that.

A wheel gun is much more forgiving of minor imperfections in hand loads that would hang up in a semi-auto.
I guess you have never experience cylinder lock from a backed out primer.

A lower power load has less recoil hence greater accuracy.
Recoil has absolutely no correlation to the accuracy of a cartridge. If you are less accurate with full power loads that means you need more training not less powerful ammunition.

Give me a couple speed loaders and I'll choose my 357 every time for practical use. Don't get me wrong, my Glock is sweet but its simply not as practical for survival purposes
You can attempt (and fail) at ignoring well studied police and military shootings going back over 100 years that demonstrate auto loading pistols are more effective defensive handguns. It's harder to ignore the fact that 10MM will induce more permanent crush cavity wounds with more FPE delivered in a shorter time than any 357 magnum revolver.

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" A semi-auto load (10mm) requires a hotter load to make the etracting/ejecting apparatus work properly."


Not true. A 22 long semi works just fine.
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Same here, I had a few in the longer barrel lengths and they went away. Kept the 4" and am happy with it. I remember back when Dan Wessons were a fairly common sight under the glass at the LGS. Never bit because the interchangeable barrel thing seemed to much like a gimmick.
It wasnít a gimmick, tensioning the barrel using the wrench and feeler gauge created the opportunity for some accurate revolvers.
I had a .445 Supermag and taking PA Whitetails at 100yds with just the factory sights was child's play.
Shooting golfballs at 50-100 yards with one of the old Aimpoint tube red dots...

The local range did USPSA matches, when we stayed local thatís where we went.
The range would do side matches geared towards rifles but it was a run what you brung kinda thing.
They did a woods stage with camo targets set up along a trail behind the 500yard range.
This was back when the only ARs out there seemed to be Colts, Bushmasters and Olympics.
Some guys used a .30 Carbine (I did on occasion) but some would bring wheel guns just for the fun factor.
That .445 was a howl especially when loaded down to the .44 special range.

One of the only guns out of hundreds that I really wish I hadnít gotten rid of.
Sold it for wedding money...
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Instead of wishing you hadn't gotten rid of your Dan Wessons get yourself a 715. 1999.00 MSRP
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/715-revolver/
Apparently they still produce the revolver, which is somewhat of a surprise to me as I was under the impression they had been discontinued, so it's not like you can't replace what you regret selling off. Then there is the used market, where you could probably find a suitable replacement.


I just never saw the need to swap barrels on a revolver. I pick a barrel length and roll with it. Maybe Dan Wesson was ahead of their time with their innovations. What I do know is Wesson revolvers never really caught on, at least not in my neck of the woods.
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Instead of wishing you hadn't gotten rid of your Dan Wessons get yourself a 715. 1999.00 MSRP
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/715-revolver/
Apparently they still produce the revolver, which is somewhat of a surprise to me as I was under the impression they had been discontinued, so it's not like you can't replace what you regret selling off. Then there is the used market, where you could probably find a suitable replacement.


I just never saw the need to swap barrels on a revolver. I pick a barrel length and roll with it. Maybe Dan Wesson was ahead of their time with their innovations. What I do know is Wesson revolvers never really caught on, at least not in my neck of the woods.
Nah, no future handgun hunting for me, so no need to buy another.
If I found a decent priced used one in .445 I might consider it.
Just no real need for any more revolvers at this point.

It wasn’t just about swapping lengths, by tensioning the barrel it created better accuracy.
It was also neat to be able to remove the barrel for cleaning from the “chamber” end instead of the muzzle.

IIRC the new ones are made by CZ like the 1911’s?
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Yep! there are a couple of revolvers I've let go over the years that I wished I hadn't. Water under the bridge.
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" A semi-auto load (10mm) requires a hotter load to make the etracting/ejecting apparatus work properly."


Not true. A 22 long semi works just fine.
I don't think he knows what he's talking about. A squib is a squib no matter what cartridge.
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I don't think he knows what he's talking about. A squib is a squib no matter what cartridge.
And squibs tend to "stack up" in revolver barrels. Not as much of a problem in autos.
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And squibs tend to "stack up" in revolver barrels. Not as much of a problem in autos.
If that was a joke it went over my head.

I will say that it's much easier to change a semi autos barrel if a squib permanently damages the barrel.
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If that was a joke it went over my head.

I will say that it's much easier to change a semi autos barrel if a squib permanently damages the barrel.
No joke. Its just a lot easier for those not paying attention, to "stack them up".






Not saying you cant do it in an autoloader, as the gun normally wont cycle, but its a lot easier in an revolver, just keep pulling the trigger.
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How did that barrel not explode?
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How did that barrel not explode?
The gigantic gap between the cylinder and barrel allows gas to blow out there instead of blowing up the barrel.

(Gigantic is relative, autoloaders don’t have this gap so any gap is gigantic when compared to an autoloader.)
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A good measure of the cylinder gap is what happens when someone gets their finger next to it when firing a .460 S&W
The cylinder gap on my Freedom Arms 97 is close to non-existent
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The gigantic gap between the cylinder and barrel allows gas to blow out there instead of blowing up the barrel.

(Gigantic is relative, autoloaders donít have this gap so any gap is gigantic when compared to an autoloader.)
I forgot the cylinder ga exists on revolvers, good point.
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My guess would be, they werent really loaded all that hot, and when the first one didnt make it clear, the others just stacked up behind the first.

If you do a Google search on "multiple squibs revolver barrel" and look under the "images" tab, you'll have a lot to look at. Some do split the barrel, some stack, and some come apart.

Im of the habit of stopping if the least little thing sounds/feels off when Im shooting and checking the barrel. Especially with my revolvers. You can usually tell when something isnt right. It is tougher with them when shooting fast though.

With the autos, if the gun doesnt cycle, I still do a TRB, but stop short of the actual "bang" (I do a mental "bang"), and then check the gun. Ive yet to have a squib or light load in an auto cycle the gun. Which is a plus, as long as youre paying attention.

For some reason, I seem to have had more issues with my revolvers when it comes to squibs than I did my autos. Not that Ive really had many with either. It just seems with the autos, the rounds usually still clear the barrel, where with the revolvers, they seem to get stuck in it.

Ive had autos squib, not cycle, and the round not hit the target or backer at 10 yards.
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I'm trying to recall if I've ever had a squib in either a revolver or auto pistol, nothing comes to mind, however I do recall having one in a 357 lever action with a long barrel, it was a light target load that didn't make it out the end. I caught on that something wasn't right before I sent another one down the barrel.
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