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Old 05-23-2019, 11:41 PM
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so say you are just laying in bed, and you hear 4 shots ring out at some distance just before midnight.


Do you just go to bed or do you do anything different?

If you have travel plans to the area the shots were fired from do you do anything different due to hearing them?

Likewise in this same vein. A fight breaks out in your/your neighbours back yard. Do you stay in bed or do you do something about it.. you think someone will get seriously hurt if you don't do anything.


What is your take on these situations?

Do you feel obligated to do something?
Do you change plans?

What?
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I live in a low crime suburb of a small city. We hear shots fired several times a year. Someone is shooting at some stray something.

Fight breaks out in my neighbor's yard. The wife call 911; I take my gun to the fight.
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I hear gunshots everyday...and at night too. Its normal.

Heck, this morning I was outside at 7AM, naked, except for earpro, firing rounds into the dirt to chase a pair of bears out of my garbage.


But I think the question is if you would respond to suspicious gunshots.

Sure. Life is nasty brutish and short. Rather take the risk than stay at home while 'life' happens around me. I don't want to die of old age. I figure I only have about ten good years left. Going to take every chance I can to go out doing something.
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Neighbors fighting, call the cops. Shots fired, grab the AR and move it closer to my TV watching chair just in case the shots start getting close and personal.
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Heck, this morning I was outside at 7AM, naked.

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Definitely. I only have one neighbor homesteader husband/wife who are close enough for me to hear shots from them. They are rational and sober enough not to blast off rounds in the middle of the night without good reason. It’s either a bear or a human encroaching on their space. I’d be gearing up in a heartbeat ready to go help if I don’t get a text from them that they just killed a bear. I know this is in the urban forum, so I guess it would depend on the community. I’d probably hunker down and call the cops in such an environment.s
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Probably not doing anything.

If it's close enough or somehow otherwise alarming then I might bother to call the cops. It's their job to deal with that stuff and there are a lot more of them than there are of me. If it's somewhere I'm headed I might simply avoid the area. Responding to gunfire is a great way to get yourself shot.

One exception: I do live directly next to a school. If some freak decided to pull a Columbine I'd respond for that. I almost certainly wouldn't go running in with a rifle though, since cops and innocents alike would probably confuse me for the shooter. However, I would do whatever I could to give the best chance to the students and staff on campus and support any and all responding LEO's. I do come equipped with some handy tools and training for such an event.
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Have experienced both more than once. Calling the police did nothing. Getting involved made it worse.
Never again. Someone else will do it.

If a neighbor was fighting an attacker of course I would help. Domestic dispute, no thanks.

Noone hangs around in an Urban environment after shooting a gun so wouldn’t make difference 10 minutes later.
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Only if my first name is Officer or Batman.
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Ok,

so say you are just laying in bed, and you hear 4 shots ring out at some distance just before midnight.


Do you just go to bed or do you do anything different?

If you have travel plans to the area the shots were fired from do you do anything different due to hearing them?

Likewise in this same vein. A fight breaks out in your/your neighbours back yard. Do you stay in bed or do you do something about it.. you think someone will get seriously hurt if you don't do anything.


What is your take on these situations?

Do you feel obligated to do something?
Do you change plans?

What?
Is it your JOB to respond? If the answer is no then that's your answer.
If its near by and you dont live in some hellhole with people shooting at each other all day maybe you call 911 to report it.
Shots fired across the street or next door and people you consider friends may be in danger then thats a different story.
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I don’t get involved in domestic disputes. Maybe if some woman is about to get killed. Or a child. But that’s it. I’m not getting involved to save somebody a black eye or broken nose.

We live in the suburbs people shoot varmints we hear shots once or twice most weeks .
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Way to much sharing, my friend!
Hey, at least I didn't post any pictures.
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In the before the event you can hear shots at any time from any of my neighbors places, this is a rural area, from coons in the chicken house to target practice. My neighbors are used to hearing lots of shooting at my place. I know what is about normal from any of my neighbors. If I hear something that doesn't sound right I might try to call them. If I knew they were in trouble and a deputy hadn't shown yet I would go ARMED to check it out.

After TEOTWAWKI I intend to go visit my neighbors and leave them a handheld radio and talk to them about mutual security. I WILL definitely go help anyone who is being attacked, and I hope that my neighbors will do the same for me.

If we ignore problems in the neighborhood we are inviting bad actors to invade and they will raid from one place to another and probably eventually end up here. Better to fight them in someone else's back yard with help from my other neighbors than fight them in my backyard with no help.
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Back in the fall, party going on across the street, suburban neighborhood. I woke up about 4am to yelling. I watched from the bedroom window as the drunken argument moved to the street. When things moved into my yard I grabbed my pants and my carry gun by the bed and went out the back door. I walked around the side of the house, stood in the shadows and observed. If it moved further in the yard I would have made myself known but it moved back into the street and after about 20 minutes the event died out.

Earlier this year, my wife woke me cause she heard a gunshot, she hadn't been to bed yet. I sat and listened as another 3 shots rang out. Discharge of a firearm in town will get you jail time depending on circumstances (self defense ok). The shots were close. I grabbed my carry gun by the bed and looked outside around the house scanning the neighborhood. Having not seen anything I called the non-emergency police number to report I heard shots letting them know they sounded close but couldn't tell where they came from. I never did hear if anything was ever found.
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I would get armed with the rifle and the bedside gun. Check outside to get a better fix on the location. Going to intervene, no way, job experience has taught me to stay out of domestic disturbances unless children are bring harmed.

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35 yrs ago that would have been me raking the tree tops 300 yd distance after the yapping hounds woke me up (coon hunting in woods they had no permission to be in).
Neighbors fighting .... I try to MYOB , but if it looked out of hand 3 of them I'd walk over open carry and ask if everything is OK.
One of them I'd put some popcorn on and enjoy the show from my front porch.
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I’m in the camp of don’t get involved in a domestic dispute beyond calling the cops, unless it’s obvious grave bodily harm is imminent and it’s fairly clear you could intervene without foolishly endangering yourself (there’s unavoidable risk, sure, but I’m talking about being reckless).

Police scanners (or internet broadcasts of same) have been useful to us on a couple of occasions to gather info about goings-on in our neighborhood. Once there was a guy hiding in the woods between our house and a parking lot after he’d pulled a gun at a nearby bar and then ran, throwing it into the woods. Learned all that on the scanner, not the local news.
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Shots in the distance - go back to watching my old "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" DVDs and ignore them.

Disturbance next door -
Husband and wife fighting - buy the winner a beer the next day.

Home invasion - call 911, grab my AK, and go help my neighbors.
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I had three shots just west of my home last night (less than a block). I called 911, got the dogs inside and went outside to see if anything was going on. The 911 operator asked if there were any screaming, etc. (there was not) and a police office rolled by less than five minutes after my call (actually surprised me with our shortages). Happens from time to time but I don't feel obliged to play super hero. I want to see if my neighbors are in trouble and that's it.
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Ok,
so say you are just laying in bed, and you hear 4 shots ring out at some distance just before midnight....

.....If you have travel plans to the area the shots were fired from do you do anything different due to hearing them?
You are laying in bed....but have "travel plans"....to a place within earshot?



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Ok, so say you are just laying in bed, and you hear 4 shots ring out at some distance just before midnight.
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Do you just go to bed or do you do anything different?
4 shots in the distance means nothing. I would go back to doing what I was doing.

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If you have travel plans to the area the shots were fired from do you do anything different due to hearing them?
I may be a bit more cautious, but it wouldn't stop my from traveling. If it were automatic gunfire, I may find a different route.

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Likewise in this same vein. A fight breaks out in your/your neighbours back yard. Do you stay in bed or do you do something about it.. you think someone will get seriously hurt if you don't do anything.
If they are in their own back yard, I mind my own business. However, if they get too loud, I would just call the police and have them deal with them.


If they were in my back yard, they would be dealt with quickly. I don't bull**** when it comes to trespassing and starting ****.


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What is your take on these situations?
These seem like normal occurrences that can happen on any given day. Nothing really alarming to me.

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Do you feel obligated to do something?
Nope... matter of fact, I typically leave people to do whatever stupidity they want, as long as it doesn't effect me.

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Do you change plans?
Never

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