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Seems logical to me. I was just thinking that the longer barrel would suit my needs better. It just makes for a big ol hand cannon. I'm not sure if it would spread more or not. Since the shot gets in the riflings (when using smaller shot) I would think it would spread more with the increased velocity of the 6 inch barrel. Not sure though.
I fully admit there is no one gun fits all. In my case too many guns do not fit all but I like guns.
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My father has a Judge. He lives in Louisiana and uses it around our home place.

He keeps it loaded with .410’s and has killed a lot of water moccasins with it. They’re mean and kind of a PITA if you live in the South.

He likes it very much for that.
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My father has a Judge. He lives in Louisiana and uses it around our home place.

He keeps it loaded with .410s and has killed a lot of water moccasins with it. Theyre mean and kind of a PITA if you live in the South.

He likes it very much for that.
That's the main reason I'd want the .410 option. I'd like something that I could carry and blast critters with when I'm out working.
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It sounded to me like you where talking about useing a .410 shotshell for home defense. Which we should all be able to agree, is an insanely bad idea.
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It sounded to me like you where talking about useing a .410 shotshell for home defense. Which we should all be able to agree, is an insanely bad idea.
Yeah I don't know where that came from. Lol. My original post was about wanting a .454 pistol, but I found the judge and liked the fact that it could use .410 as well.
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Yeah I don't know where that came from. Lol. My original post was about wanting a .454 pistol, but I found the judge and liked the fact that it could use .410 as well.
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I'm not sure if it would spread more or not. Since the shot gets in the riflings (when using smaller shot) I would think it would spread more with the increased velocity of the 6 inch barrel. Not sure though.
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Not exactly I measured my bed to doorways target points and set up at the range. If my point of aim is center mass shot will fill the width of the doorway with half that above and below a center mass aim. I expect I would be shooting from a lower position than a standing man so shot will pretty well populate the head and face area.
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I will not actually be aiming since the Governor as a auto squeeze crimson trace. So I will put dot on center mass and fire. Since we have a home alarm system I do not expect it should come to this but I should have adequate warning.
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I disagree. A Governor will fill a doorway with .410 shot with zero next room penetration. It may not result in a kill shot but no one is going to keep coming. Plus the second shot need not be a .410 with plenty of time for the kill shot.

So the .410 option permits a good bit of latitude especially when it comes to nightstand strategy.
See what I mean? Looks like some people have some very dangerous ideas on home defense.
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My father has a Judge. He lives in Louisiana and uses it around our home place.

He keeps it loaded with .410’s and has killed a lot of water moccasins with it. They’re mean and kind of a PITA if you live in the South.

He likes it very much for that.
That's the main reason I'd want the .410 option. I'd like something that I could carry and blast critters with when I'm out working.
My dad had my ole judge just for that reason but the 410 in the wrist with recoil is a bit much for him at his age
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It sounded to me like you where talking about useing a .410 shotshell for home defense. Which we should all be able to agree, is an insanely bad idea.
So much fail in this post.
For sure the Govenor with Federal #000 personal defense is more than enough gun for the task. The firearms advice here ranges from excellent to **** poor. I wonder if some the posts are by people who do not even own a firearm.
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It sounded to me like you where talking about useing a .410 shotshell for home defense. Which we should all be able to agree, is an insanely bad idea.
And I could give a rat's ... what you think.
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While I think they would be a fun gun to have & from a prepper mindset are nice in that you have a single platform that shoots 3 different calibers, in the Raging Judge at least. I do however agree with most of what Paul Harrell demonstrated with them. I would like to have one, especially if I could find a hot deal on one at a gun show or the like.


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I have a customer that has one and keeps it loaded with .410 shot shells for his home defense gun. One thing I can tell you is its a HUGE gun.

His has the 3 barrel and the quick access safe needed is designed for 6 barreled full size revolvers.

It would not fit the holster so we had to use one meant for a handgun with a weapons light. Its too tall from the sights to the bottom of the trigger guard for a standard revolver holster.

You can see from this photo that is barely fits.

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While I think they would be a fun gun to have & from a prepper mindset are nice in that you have a single platform that shoots 3 different calibers, in the Raging Judge at least. I do however agree with most of what Paul Harrell demonstrated with them. I would like to have one, especially if I could find a hot deal on one at a gun show or the like.

Taurus Judge Review - YouTube

Taurus Judge review, PART TWO! - YouTube

Taurus Judge Review PART THREE, .410 Slugs. - YouTube
I watched all of the first one, part of the second and none of the third. Since I have shot slugs and do not plan to shoot more out of my governor it does not matter.

I agree and never intended for my governor to be my concealed carry weapon. So I agree with him but the point is irrelevant for me.

I also agree if one is going to shoot buckshot one may as well shoot .45. I do not intend on shooting concrete blocks or 2 liter bottles of soft drink so I hardly see the relevance of those.

If I am going to conceal carry it will be another gun. If I want to put down a large mammal carefully aimed I will be carrying another gun. If I am going to shoot a man coming through my bedroom door when I have been asleep with my cpap on it will be my governor.

He is wrong about hit probability.

If you shoot center of a standard door way at a distance one might normally shoot from a bed then using #4, or #6 is going to fill that doorway. So a person to the left or right of center is going to get hit. Therefore the probability of a hit is greater. As for stopping power. IMO the stopping power I am looking for on my first shot is stopping the person from coming forward and stopping him from getting a return shot off.

I do not believe a person hit with #4, or #6, is going to keep coming forward. Add to that the likely hood of a fair number of shot finding his face and head area plus neck, I do not think he will get off a return shot before I fire a second and third time.

My governor will let me load any combination or permutation of .410 and .45's I like. The military taught me to fire in three round burst. So long as that intruder is in target view 3 rounds will be fired not all .410.

Like I said above the initial center door way shot will not be an aimed shot but a crimson trace dot shot. The follow up shots will be more carefully aimed with the assistance of the crimson trace.

Almost every time I go the the range, I practice these 3 shots in rapid sequence. I also verify the spread I am looking for at the distance I expect to be shooting.

As the man said at the end of the first video comfort with a weapon is important. For the particular roll I expect this gun to play I am most comfortable with it. I have no doubt it will do the job if for nothing else enabling me to fight my way to my other weapons.

One other comment the .45 ACP clip (yes it is a clip) is my backup speed loader if it should come to that.
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So much fail in this post.
For sure the Govenor with Federal #000 personal defense is more than enough gun for the task. The firearms advice here ranges from excellent to **** poor. I wonder if some the posts are by people who do not even own a firearm.
Don't listen to me. Listen to the FBI. I say again, if you think a shot shell of any kind is 'more than enough' your very very badly mistaken.

Again, anyone interested in ballistics should start here:

http://gundata.org/images/fbi-handgun-ballistics.pdf
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For the OP. #000 Federal Personal Defense in a
Raging Judge
And for the numb nuts also who have no clue what heavy buckshot can do even at 750 fps. Crazy wound channel
https://youtu.be/256aNCB4AVo
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For those of us with Govenors, here is Jerry Miculek's testing
https://youtu.be/pE65-hrwC-I
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For those of us with Govenors, here is Jerry Miculek's testing
https://youtu.be/pE65-hrwC-I
Good info the best part is he got to the point. Thanks again.
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Good info the best part is he got to the point. Thanks again.
Agree, he gets to the point.
His gel results speak for themselves
I would listen to him before I listened to anyone on this forum.
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Real world results...

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/02/...y-day-shooter/
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I disagree. A Governor will fill a doorway with .410 shot with zero next room penetration. It may not result in a kill shot but no one is going to keep coming. Plus the second shot need not be a .410 with plenty of time for the kill shot.

So the .410 option permits a good bit of latitude especially when it comes to nightstand strategy.
Unless it just angers them enough...
A 410 handgun is just a sales gimmick.
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Unless it just angers them enough...
A 410 handgun is just a sales gimmick.

There are wide range of shot and projectiles to pick from. My strategy is one round of .410 followed by .45. I do not think after getting hit with a round of .410 they will keep advancing while I make sure of a heart and head shot of .45 to follow.
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