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Old 08-25-2018, 08:08 AM
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Robert Redfield (CDC U.S. Director), just returned from the area and he stated = "... in two weeks, we’ve gone from 24 cases to 105 cases".

LINK: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...fcL&OCID=HPDHP
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I assume and hope that they are not seriously saying the numbers increased 4 fold that quickly. 2 weeks.

That is way faster than the big outbreak.
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Behold a Pale Horse!
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https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...zone-in-congo/
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Oh Lord. I wonder how bad this one will get
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Read the HOT ZONE or The DEMON IN THE FREEZER , THEN BUY A BOTTLE OF BEAM OR CROWN ROYAL and 2 litter of coke , mix pour over ice , when you are 1/2 way done you just might fall asleep. LOL
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oh, crap. war, waves of refugees, and ebola. All in 1 place.

good article. bad news.
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Things like this make me think of "that last trip to town"

You could do things that might save your life like getting perishables: meds, cooking oil, fresh foods etc.
Empty out your bank account and spend it on things that could help you.

...or you could bring home death.

I guess a middle ground would be to build a shed with a combo lock on it and order things from Amazon, wall mart etc and have the UPS driver lock it for you.

If someone steals it before your isolation period is over that sux... but it could be out the weather till you think it's safe to get.
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It would make for a great biological agent. For a group that has little to spend on resources, it's pretty easy to direct a person through an infected area then in into the enemy are for capture... Cheap, effective, and scary.
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Things like this make me think of "that last trip to town"

You could do things that might save your life like getting perishables: meds, cooking oil, fresh foods etc.
Empty out your bank account and spend it on things that could help you.

...or you could bring home death.

I guess a middle ground would be to build a shed with a combo lock on it and order things from Amazon, wall mart etc and have the UPS driver lock it for you.

If someone steals it before your isolation period is over that sux... but it could be out the weather till you think it's safe to get.

Oddly enough....

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The biggest cause for concern is that one of the confirmed cases is that of an unidentified WHO physician who has been identifying and diagnosing Ebola patients. However, he wasn’t infected by one of his patients. He was infected by his wife when she returned from a nearby city.
https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...zone-in-congo/
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Apparently facial recognition caught a man from DRC traveling to Washington DC by way of Brazil on a fake passport. I read both headlines one after the other and the movie 12 Monkeys came to mind. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ecedented-case
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The Irony here is a mutated Ebola or Marlburg may do what Smallpox and the Black Death did and usher in a new Dark Ages. We shall see. Kind of like Nuclear War or Financial Meltdown it is not a question of if but when.
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supposedly they have a vaccine now, so let's hope they can stay in front of it.
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supposedly they have a vaccine now, so let's hope they can stay in front of it.
I think it's wishful thinking. I hope I'm wrong...

The claims made that it is "A 100% perfect vaccine" raised some suspicion in this skeptic.

After doing some research, there was an interesting designed bias in the vaccine studies to highlight effectiveness of the vaccine.

Details of the protocol are difficult to find, as they do not discuss this in the study reports. I read it a while back, and cannot find it today.

2 groups/villages were vaccinated, the intimidate and delayed. Candidates for the delayed were registered and 3 weeks later were vaccinated. The other group was vaccinated on that day but in 21 days later.

After 3 weeks the control group (unvaccinated) had multiple positive ebola cases, where as the vaccinated group (experimental) had none.

What many of the study outcomes fail to mention, is for the 3 weeks following vaccination, the medical staff remained in the village continuing to reinforce hygiene, and best practices to avoid infection... those not vaccinated did not have continued medical access and 21 days of education.
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I watched a documentary years ago about an Ebola outbreak in the Congo. One of the Sister Nurses contracted the disease while treating patients. The western doctors argued with the African doctors about how to treat the dying nurse. Of course pharmaceutical western doctors wanted to use every pill know to man which hadn't saved anyone . The Africans just said to give her a transfusion from one of the Ebola survivors. In the end they gave her a transfusion and saved her life. I surprised they don't use that technique more often.
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The Irony here is a mutated Ebola or Marlburg may do what Smallpox and the Black Death did and usher in a new Dark Ages. We shall see. Kind of like Nuclear War or Financial Meltdown it is not a question of if but when.
The medical uniform isn't as cool this time though.

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I watched a documentary years ago about an Ebola outbreak in the Congo. One of the Sister Nurses contracted the disease while treating patients. The western doctors argued with the African doctors about how to treat the dying nurse. Of course pharmaceutical western doctors wanted to use every pill know to man which hadn't saved anyone . The Africans just said to give her a transfusion from one of the Ebola survivors. In the end they gave her a transfusion and saved her life. I surprised they don't use that technique more often.
Hippocratic oath?

There are multiple risks to transfusion, increased logarithmically with fresh whole blood. Blood group compatibility set aside.

The better choice would be the liquid component (plasma), which requires centrifugation (or long term refrigerated settling of cellular components).

Perhaps they normally lack simple basic medical equipment in the field? Sure they may have portable equipment for blood work, portable fridges for meds (and vaccines) in the field, but perhaps lack the larger equipment.

Anyways, in short, that’s a human unprocessed vaccine. Giving someone immunity/partial immunity from someone else’s “blood”. Highly unethical in the “norm”.
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Hypocritic oath?

There are multiple risks to transfusion, increased logarithmically with fresh whole blood. Blood group compatibility set aside.

The better choice would be the liquid component (plasma), which requires centrifugation (or long term refrigerated settling of cellular components).

Perhaps they normally lack simple basic medical equipment in the field? Sure they may have portable equipment for blood work, portable fridges for meds (and vaccines) in the field, but perhaps lack the larger equipment.

Anyways, in short, that’s a human unprocessed vaccine. Giving someone immunity/partial immunity from someone else’s “blood”. Highly unethical in the “norm”.
Yes ethics to pump pharmaceuticals in you that might kill you.
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Hippocratic oath?

There are multiple risks to transfusion, increased logarithmically with fresh whole blood. Blood group compatibility set aside.

The better choice would be the liquid component (plasma), which requires centrifugation (or long term refrigerated settling of cellular components).

Perhaps they normally lack simple basic medical equipment in the field? Sure they may have portable equipment for blood work, portable fridges for meds (and vaccines) in the field, but perhaps lack the larger equipment.

Anyways, in short, that’s a human unprocessed vaccine. Giving someone immunity/partial immunity from someone else’s “blood”. Highly unethical in the “norm”.
From an article on the (pre-vaccine) 2014 outbreak. https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...o-fight-ebola/

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Treating Ebola patients with blood transfusions from survivors of the disease should be the immediate priority among all the experimental therapies under consideration for this outbreak, World Health Organization (WHO) experts said Friday after reviewing the status of all the potential experimental therapies and vaccines. “We agreed that whole-blood therapies and convalescent serum may be used to treat Ebola virus disease and that all efforts must be invested into helping affected countries use them safely,” Marie-Paule Kieny, assistant director general for health systems and innovation at WHO told reporters.

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Such blood transfusions have not yet been systematically studied in humans for Ebola (although such transfusions have been used in limited circumstances including, reportedly, when U.S. physician Kent Brantly was infected with Ebola in Liberia and on others during an earlier outbreak elsewhere in 1995). Moreover, levels of Ebola fighting antibodies are not uniform in different people and some experts have even speculated that such transfusions could potentially do harm. Still, WHO experts concluded that this is the best approach because it is theoretically feasible to recruit large numbers of Ebola survivors, collect blood from them, screen it for disease and use it to potentially help patients. The edict, from some 200 experts and scientists at WHO headquarters in Geneva, was a follow-up to an earlier Ebola ethics review last month that concluded it would be ethical to give patients experimental therapies when and if they are available.
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Blood in africa likely has high likely hood of carrying things like hiv, malaria, and other diseases.

Something like 10% of ebola victims are health workers. This is after using protective equipment, gloves gowns masks, not i believe space suits.
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