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Anyone using one of these? Just wondering what you think of them?
Would they make a good budget SHTF red dot?
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I have the romeo 7

I like mine, shuts off automatically then turns on whenever you move it and supposedly a 7 year battery life and it co-witnessed with my irons.

So far so good.
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It is the budget model
I would sped a few more dollars on a Vortex AR SPARC
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Minimal experienced with the Romeo 3 was positive...

Gonna try the Romeo 5 soon. Just over 100$ and looks durable.
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So a couple of things:

1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.

2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).

3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.

That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?

The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.



Here's a picture of the ACSS reticle. You can find a ton of YouTube videos detailing this, as well.



The Holosun looks pretty close to the Romeo and they both have the auto-shut-off feature.

[IMG]Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle[/IMG]

Holosun Paralow HS503G Red Dot Sight - ACSS CQB Reticle



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Holosun also makes all of the Primary Arms Optics for them. This also includes their 3X and 5X Prism with dots. These are the best of both worlds for some, as they have the etched reticle, that works with dead batteries or you can illuminate them like a red dot.

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I have two of them, the ones that run on AAA batteries, not some hearing aid or specialized battery. I like them better them Vortex Sparc.
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So a couple of things:

1. Red dots are the fastest sights for CQB and mid range, on a AR, 200 yards is probably the practical maximum.

2. Red dots with no power are simply an empty glass tube and useless. So for SHFT or the end of the world, EMP, etc. you are going to need batteries and an EMP or solar event could render them useless. (Unless stored properly).

3. An optic with an etched reticle works whether it has a battery or not. Illuminated reticles are not as fast as a 1x (really 0x) red dots, but they are not too much slower.

That being said, I have a Holosun Red Dot on my AR now and it looks a lot like the SIG Romeo, enough to make me wonder if they are actually made by Holosun for SIG?

The model I have has a Chevron instead of the dot and has the "65 MOA Donut of Death", like the Eotechs have, for CQB. I like this better as the chevron point is an infinite point and won't obscure the target like a dot will. The Chevron also gets you from 50 to 300 meters (yards), which is nice on a rifle. The ACSS reticle also has ranging dots from 400 yards up to 600 yards, but you really need a swing away magnifier ($100+) to use these, unless you have excellent vision.
I also like the Primary Arms ACSS optics. I have a 3x prism and a 1-6.

I read when the Sig dots first came on the market, that they are rebranded Holosun dots, with a better warranty. Basically you're paying extra for the warranty. Which may or may not be valuable.

But if you buy direct from Primary Arms (the primary distributor of Holosun), many of their optics now have lifetime warranties. PLUS, if you are a vet/LEO/first responder you can get a 10% discount, which I've used a there a LOT.

For a plain old red dot, you can't beat the PA dot with rotary knob (no buttons to break, 50k hour battery life, and lifetime warranty, $135 regular price): https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-...-base-md-rb-ad I have one of those too, although I ordered a blemished version for $60. Works great though.

Their prism sights are pretty freaking awesome. The latest, Gen II of the 3x and 5x have a lifetime warranty.

Here's my Gen I 3x prism with an A.R.M.S. mount on a 300 Blackout:



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Here's my Holosun with the ACSS Reticle. So far, so good, bright red aiming points and very light. I was able to get hits at 200 yards off a bench, 3 out of 5 inside a 3" circle that looked like a big black 12" square to me. I was impressed. So man sized targets are no problem with a 1x dot at that distance.

My buddy had a 3x Nikon AR specific scope and it worked too. You could see more of what you were aiming at, but not a huge difference at that range. Not sure if I want to add a 3x swing out magnifier to mine or skip it.

For PDW ranges, I think the red dots are the way to go. Very fast to pick-up on target. Mine is set to a lower 1/3 co-witness with the fixed front sight. The sight isn't a factor, except it does give you a solid reference point to center the chevron, etc. in your field of view. I was going to remove the front sight and replace it with a MLOK rail, but if I do, I will attached a fixed front sight to the rail as well, that is always visible in the lower 1/3rd.

I'm thinking about getting a Trijicon 4x with the ACSS reticle, as a dedicated rifle optic, but I've got to save my pennies for that one, $1,200+ is a lot of green for me.

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For a range toy it doesn't matter. For something you may bet your life on..... I'd consider Aimpoint Pro an excellent budget SHTF red dot. It's a little heavy, but will likely outlive your rifle barrel. They are truly tough. You can find em on ebay for under $300.

This one still works after a fire that destroyed the rifle it's on. I'd still put back up irons on every rifle JIC.

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I tried 2 Romeo 5's. Returned them both due to a pretty bad flaring issue I'd get when lighting was to my rear while shooting. It was bad enough to distract me from the dot in certain conditions. I ended up getting a Holosun HS510C and I love it.
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What is your life worth? Budget SHTF?

We have an Aimpoint and several trijicon products that we would use to keep us and our kids safe if SHTF.
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I've had a Romeo 5 on one of my rifles for about a year now, and I've been really impressed with. It seems pretty high quality for the price, and I haven't had any problems with it. Love the auto on/auto off feature too! Hope this helps you out.
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I have both the romeo 5 and holosun and like them equally. Both have the shake awake feature.

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We have an Aimpoint and several trijicon products that we would use to keep us and our kids safe if SHTF.
And they are not made by the enemies of the US. Holson, Primary Arms are PLA in chicomland.

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If what you can afford there are worse choices. If you’re able to wait and or save then I’d choose a Trijicon or Aimpoint.

Another option is a 1-4x variable.
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Holosun and romeo 5 are the same thing....

They work and budget minded.... I would say it's more then budget but entry level. Love mine works well and while it's not a 500 dollar aimpoint it works and I didnt need to take a second mortgage to buy top shelf optics on everything.

Emp..... ok well I'll take my chances on that because well it pretty slim chance. Economic collaspe is coming so that wont effect it either.
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Holosun makes nice red dots that work and can be trusted. they make the Romeo 5 and the PA red dots as well. They have a 5 year battery life which is much higher than a vortex sparc and its mere 300 hours which is only 12 days. You should always have a backup iron sight regardless of the optic you're running.

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Here's my Holosun with the ACSS Reticle.

My buddy had a 3x Nikon AR specific scope and it worked too. You could see more of what you were aiming at, but not a huge difference at that range.
I also have the 3X Nikon and the PA 3X ACSS unit. The ACSS is faster, IMHO, but the Nikon reticle is better for fine work, and won't suffer from flare or my astigmatism

Both require no batteries, but the Nikon was cheaper.
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I have the Romeo on my Sig MPX kicks A on that platform Also have a Daniel Defense v7 with the Trigicon SRS. The SRS is a little large but it's supper fast
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I have a Romeo5 on an AR pistol with a brace 10.5 in barrel. I like it. Keeps a zero. Makes hitting what I want dirt simple. Co-witnesses with iron sights also.
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