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My m44 needs a new barrel, slugs to .313 and a funky .311 oblong crown(?). I can either spend the money for the bullet mould, handles, dipper, melting pot, you get the idea....

OR, I can get a new Mcgowan military profile stainless steel barrel, and just put the sight bases back on after my gunsmith swaps the barrels out and cuts the extractor channel.

Less money to get the Mcgowan tube, but does anyone have any experience removing the rear sight band WITHOUT cutting it?
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Yep, They are soldered on. If I remember right, there is one pin that needs to be removed (see picture) and then heat it up with a torch until the solder softens and then tap it off the barrel.

Make sure you disassemble the sight assembly before applying heat. You do not want to ruin your springs.

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Thanks, Al. I saw the pin, but didn't know for certain if that was it,if I would need a machine press, or what.
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I did it with a small punch and a small ball peen hammer. Getting the pin out is the easy part. Drilling the new barrel for the pin is tricky.

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use the base as a guide for the new barrel pin channels?
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Make sure you have it clocked right.
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It's hard to keep the small drill bits from wandering on a flat surface and when you are trying to drill through an existing (tiny) hole against a surface with a radius it really wants to go everywhere except where you need it to go. What you can wind up doing is enlarging the hole in the base when the bit tries to wander.

I would instead place your base on the barrel and accurately mark the barrel through the base on both sides with a small drift punch. Then I would remove the base and use a 3 cornered file to carefully make a notch on the barrel for the pin. Go slow and try often.

Of course, if you have a mill or, know someone with one, you could make short (accurate) work of that pesky hole.

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It's hard to keep the small drill bits from wandering on a flat surface and when you are trying to drill through an existing (tiny) hole against a surface with a radius it really wants to go everywhere except where you need it to go. What you can wind up doing is enlarging the hole in the base when the bit tries to wander.

I would instead place your base on the barrel and accurately mark the barrel through the base on both sides with a small drift punch. Then I would remove the base and use a 3 cornered file to carefully make a notch on the barrel for the pin. Go slow and try often.

Of course, if you have a mill or, know someone with one, you could make short (accurate) work of that pesky hole.

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It's getting close to go time on the m44, Al diehl. Do you remember which way you tapped your pins out? L-R or R-L on rear and down-up or up-down on front? going to have to reuse the pins. internet search has yielded no joy.
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It's getting close to go time on the m44, Al diehl. Do you remember which way you tapped your pins out? L-R or R-L on rear and down-up or up-down on front? going to have to reuse the pins. internet search has yielded no joy.
When I am in doubt, I always tap from left to right. Pretty sure it was L to R on the M44 sight base but, I don't believe the pins are tapered anyway.

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Brownells makes a solder which is liquid. You just brush it on and heat it up. Just a thought but why mess with the pin? just brush on the solder aline the sight and heat it.
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Drill rod can be purchased at Brownells for pretty cheap.
I wouldn’t worry about ruining the stock pin.

As Al said, mark the new barrel and cut a notch for the pin.
A dremmel can be used if need be.
The area is hidden so precision smithing skills are not required.
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Found a different option for the barrel, need guidance. Will a type 53 (chinese copy of the M44) thread on to the M44 receiver? Are the threads the same? sight placement?

Found a barrel with the rear sight base still on, bore LOOKS good, but don't know the inner diameter, asked the seller if he could, or has had slugged it.

Anyone know if this would work?
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Found a different option for the barrel, need guidance. Will a type 53 (chinese copy of the M44) thread on to the M44 receiver? Are the threads the same? sight placement?

Found a barrel with the rear sight base still on, bore LOOKS good, but don't know the inner diameter, asked the seller if he could, or has had slugged it.

Anyone know if this would work?
They are the same.

You might have to correct it if the extractor groove doesn’t line up.
The sights might not line up either, you may have to setback the shoulder.
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My m44 needs a new barrel, slugs to .313 and a funky .311 oblong crown(?). I can either spend the money for the bullet mould, handles, dipper, melting pot, you get the idea....

OR, I can get a new Mcgowan military profile stainless steel barrel, and just put the sight bases back on after my gunsmith swaps the barrels out and cuts the extractor channel.

Less money to get the Mcgowan tube, but does anyone have any experience removing the rear sight band WITHOUT cutting it?
Cant you reload with .303 bullets,theyre .311
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Well fellas, this whole thread just became moot.

IT WAS THE AMMO.

I just tried some PPU blue box rifle line 150 grain soft points, and watched my groups shrink like mad. EASILY half of what they were , and if I had had a decent rest, they would have been really nice.

Keeping my barrel, on to antecorte prototypes rear sight and a Timney trigger.

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AND, I have reloadable casings too. I found that stuff online for 55 cents a shot, just about what the crap tula ammo was costing.

I got to say it was a good day..

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