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CO2 levels before the industion revolution where about 280 parts per million.

We starting testing them atmospherically in 1958 and now test them all over
the world daily and even via satellites.

Currently CO2 levels are 410 parts per million and we will go through an
interesting milestone within 5 years.
When we reach 420 parts per million we will have an atmosphere with 50%
more CO2 in it then before we started our exciting planetary scale fossil fuel
experiment.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/full.html

https://www.co2.earth/
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Stop having kids! No better way to cut the CO2 levels.

Although I admit, using the problem for political advantage and a reason to tax the crap out of us is pretty effective.
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The planet maintained life for millions of years with much higher levels of co2, some would say it even flourished. All the carbon that is in the ground WAS in the air at one time or another on this planet generally.



The existence of humans has correlated with a general planetary MINIMUM of co2 in the atmosphere. There is no proof that we can't exist with more co2 in the atmosphere.

If anything, one could correlate that the rise in co2 levels have given us the ability to grow as a species if you want to actually think about it. The population and standard of living across the entire planet has risen along with co2 levels.

Even climate scientists are coming out saying that the climate is less sensitive to co2 levels than previously thought.

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ge-fairy-tale/

All the models, including those by the IPCC, have been WRONG. They where saying almost .03c/year and we maybe see .01c/year in temperature change.
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If anything, one could correlate that the rise in co2 levels have given us the ability to grow as a species if you want to actually think about it.
Does that I mean that I could blame global warming for that oilbarrell that has replaced my sixpack?
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Here are 10,000 air molecules for lack of a better term (mixture of nitrogen, oxygen and other gases). Four of them are CO2. (400PPM)

Find them. They are red. They are causing "glow-bull warming".



Add another one. That will REALLY cause glow-bull warming.

Is the sarcasm not evident enough?
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Corn produces more oxygen than trees in the rain forest. Seriously. Its the nature of the plant itself, and the acres being planted of same.

Corn breathes CO2, exhales oxygen. We need more CO2 so we can expand the corn crops.

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CO2 levels before the industion revolution where about 280 parts per million.

We starting testing them atmospherically in 1958 and now test them all over
the world daily and even via satellites.

Currently CO2 levels are 410 parts per million and we will go through an
interesting milestone within 5 years.
When we reach 420 parts per million we will have an atmosphere with 50%
more CO2 in it then before we started our exciting planetary scale fossil fuel
experiment.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/full.html

https://www.co2.earth/
There must have been fewer volcanos back then
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I recall them saying that the methane released from that cavern leak in California a year ago was the GHG equivalent of all the CO2 made on Earth for the next several years.
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CO2 levels before the industion revolution where about 280 parts per million.

We starting testing them atmospherically in 1958 and now test them all over
the world daily and even via satellites.

Currently CO2 levels are 410 parts per million and we will go through an
interesting milestone within 5 years.
When we reach 420 parts per million we will have an atmosphere with 50%
more CO2 in it then before we started our exciting planetary scale fossil fuel
experiment.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/full.html

https://www.co2.earth/
the ocean is the largest contributor to global C02 production.
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With all the hungry people in this world, we need better crop yields and CO2 helps plants grow.

I guess if you advocate for low CO2, you are in favor of starving the poor and the already hungry people on this planet.

Not like you have the ability to regulate or control CO2 output. If you really believe it is man-made, you should advocate for the complete extermination of China and all its polluting people and industries, especially since they are one of the worst polluters on the planet.
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the ocean is the largest contributor to global C02 production.
Source or explanation?

Actually, I think it consumes CO2 (all that plantlife in the ocean)

https://www.leisurepro.com/blog/expl...-plants-ocean/
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CO2 levels before the industion revolution where about 280 parts per million.

We starting testing them atmospherically in 1958 and now test them all over
the world daily and even via satellites.

Currently CO2 levels are 410 parts per million and we will go through an
interesting milestone within 5 years.
When we reach 420 parts per million we will have an atmosphere with 50%
more CO2 in it then before we started our exciting planetary scale fossil fuel
experiment.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/full.html

https://www.co2.earth/
No big deal
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If you are green to gardening you might not know that carbon dioxide, the gas we all exhale, is critical to plant growth and development. Photosynthesis, the process through which plants use light to create food, requires carbon dioxide. CO2 concentration in ambient air ranges from 300-500 parts per million (ppm), with a global atmospheric average of about 400 ppm. If you are growing in a greenhouse or indoors, the CO2 levels will be reduced as the plants use it up during photosynthesis. Increasing the CO2 levels in these environments is essential for good results. Additionally, there are benefits to raising the CO2 level higher than the global average, up to 1500 ppm. With CO2 maintained at this level, yields can be increased by as much as 30%!
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How climate change will alter our food
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I put together a page view of the tremendous increase in production of corn and a number of other crops as related to increasing temps and CO2/ppm here: https://www.survivalistboards.com/sh...78&postcount=5
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If you are green to gardening you might not know that carbon dioxide, the gas we all exhale, is critical to plant growth and development. Photosynthesis, the process through which plants use light to create food, requires carbon dioxide. CO2 concentration in ambient air ranges from 300-500 parts per million (ppm), with a global atmospheric average of about 400 ppm. If you are growing in a greenhouse or indoors, the CO2 levels will be reduced as the plants use it up during photosynthesis. Increasing the CO2 levels in these environments is essential for good results. Additionally, there are benefits to raising the CO2 level higher than the global average, up to 1500 ppm. With CO2 maintained at this level, yields can be increased by as much as 30%!
Interesting! So how do the greenhouse growers increase the CO2 levels typically? Do they just run a little gas burner in the greenhouse or something?
I assume anyone that took the trouble to build a greenhouse would know this and use it to their advantage?
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Interesting! So how do the greenhouse growers increase the CO2 levels typically? Do they just run a little gas burner in the greenhouse or something? ...
Yes. "Natural gas, propane and liquid fuels are burned in specialized CO2 generators located throughout the greenhouse. (Plate 1). The size of the unit (BTU’s produced) and the degree of horizontal airflow in the greenhouse determine the number and the location of these units. The most important feature of a burner should be that it burns the fuel completely."

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"For the majority of greenhouse crops, net photosynthesis increases as CO2 levels increase from 340–1,000 ppm (parts per million). Most crops show that for any given level of photosynthetically active radiation (PAR), increasing the CO2 level to 1,000 ppm will increase the photosynthesis by about 50% over ambient CO2 levels. For some crops the economics may not warrant supplementing to 1,000 ppm CO2 at low light levels. For others such as tulips, and Easter lilies, no response has been observed." http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...cts/00-077.htm
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on a science oriented documentary about Volcanology (including warnings that WE are responsible for Global Warming/Climate Change), they said that any any given time there are an estimated 50 volcanos in one stage of eruption or another. this would dwarf what humans cause.

climate change isnt about the climate, its about population and economic control forced on people by those that want to tell the world how they should live.
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