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View Poll Results: Will there be Slingers when / after SHTF?
Yes, there will be Slingers 11 57.89%
No, there won't be Slingers 8 42.11%
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:09 AM
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I thought you said SWINGER, and immediately was think,ing heck no! And then I was wondering if you meant it as a money-earning skill

Everyday I'm home and CCW, I'm a "slinger". Post SHTF wouldn't be any different, but there would be discretion whether open or concealed carry...

As to a job? Not me. I do see those opportunities arise for those willing to take the risk if the reward was enough. Far enough into a post-SHTF scenario, you would likely see something like armed-stagecoaches again do exactly what you're thinking.

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Makes me think of "The Last of Us", where they had smugglers in the controlled zones that would take people out, or go scavenge for trade goods. I can see something like that in the appropriate scenarios. As mentioned above, caravan guards, coach guards, and private security would like rise up later in a TEOTWAWKI. The pay off being food and board, and possibly a sense of security in whatever compound the client lives in.
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AS in all things, circumstances and timing control all aspects of "What will I do next."

IE, You are on vacation/a business trip/at a funeral in a different city/state far from home.
THINGS HAPPEN and the world flips.

You are many many many many many many miles from home/BOL/base and all your "stuff"
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you have skills others do not and if you can sell them and thereby providing a better chance to get home... who wouldn't and why?

I may be older but I can shoot better than 99.9% of the folks on the planet from powder burning range to well out past 1000yds if I have good equipment. Not everyone can say that.
I spent 30 years of my life engaged in hundreds and hundreds of hand to hand situations with all sorts of folks, both foreign and domestic and I never lost. Not everyone can say that.
I can plan aggressive and defensive situational tactics because I had to do that for 30 years of my life. Not everyone can say that.
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to "make it" if someone was looking for a skilled person why not take them up on it and do what you need to do to facilitate getting home.

If someone said Do "this" and I will help you get along your way...
it sure beats having NO ONE help and support when you are so far away.
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Oh. I thought this thread was about something else.

Sling TV: Slingers 30 second spot - YouTube
After reading the title of the post I was thinking of the commercial on tv. Would I become a slinger? No way. I say we should pile trees in the roads all around the citys - burn the bridges and such so they are stuck where they belong away from us.
10 million people will leave the city for the boondocks and in the end they will just starve there too.
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The OP is a TV induced fantasy.
I must agree.

Watching fantasy is fun, but there are NO lessons to be learned from fantasy that will ever help in Real Life.



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... If things got really bad there would be a flood of people from the cities but this isn't a Rambo movie. There would be no "slingers".
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Seems like a good way to die. I didn't move out of the city so I can go back when SHTF. That's the last thing I'd do.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING I WOULD WANT.

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I have had many fantasies about Nicole Sherzinger or Shania Twain wanting me to be their slinger.
To each his own.
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AS in all things, circumstances and timing control all aspects of "What will I do next."

IE, You are on vacation/a business trip/at a funeral in a different city/state far from home.
THINGS HAPPEN and the world flips.

You are many many many many many many miles from home/BOL/base and all your "stuff"
BUT
you have skills others do not and if you can sell them and thereby providing a better chance to get home... who wouldn't and why?

I may be older but I can shoot better than 99.9% of the folks on the planet from powder burning range to well out past 1000yds if I have good equipment. Not everyone can say that.
I spent 30 years of my life engaged in hundreds and hundreds of hand to hand situations with all sorts of folks, both foreign and domestic and I never lost. Not everyone can say that.
I can plan aggressive and defensive situational tactics because I had to do that for 30 years of my life. Not everyone can say that.
SO
to "make it" if someone was looking for a skilled person why not take them up on it and do what you need to do to facilitate getting home.

If someone said Do "this" and I will help you get along your way...
it sure beats having NO ONE help and support when you are so far away.
You sound hella tough
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Makes me think of "The Last of Us", where they had smugglers in the controlled zones that would take people out, or go scavenge for trade goods. I can see something like that in the appropriate scenarios. As mentioned above, caravan guards, coach guards, and private security would like rise up later in a TEOTWAWKI. The pay off being food and board, and possibly a sense of security in whatever compound the client lives in.
Remember in The Rover when it ends up trains are still running, and the dude from Memento sees the security people riding on one of the cars?
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Old 06-16-2018, 05:05 AM
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Thanks everybody

As for me, after reading all your replies, I think that at least a little bit, there will be people like slingers.

At the beginning of the end, there will still be security people, and there will be people who need to get the heck out of town.

Then-

There will be security people who happen to need money or think they should bargain for something, and there will be people who need to get the heck out of town who have a lot of money / useful goods to trade, or are sympathetic.

QED...

It doesn't really matter what all us survivalists say we'll do, or think is smart, because supply and demand will be in effect for people who aren't thinking just as we do. They may not think it's really TEOTWAWKI. They'll be waiting for things to straighten out and in the meantime, a paycheck will be a paycheck.

Or if it's a matter of people thinking it's TEOTWAWKI, it could be guys getting paid in lidocaine or antibiotics or something. There could be some way it could be arranged to be an offer someone wants.

Got to say I agree with the people speculating about predators, about untrustworthy slingers, though. But savvy clients will maybe have a way to get in touch with real pros with credentials instead of just the first tough-looking guy they see on the street.

Ditto what people said about stagecoach / whatever security. There could just as likely be stuff that needs to be safely transported as people that need to be safely transported.
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Watching fantasy is fun, but there are NO lessons to be learned from fantasy that will ever help in Real Life.
Though it does indirectly. It tends to influence and inspire changes in the real world, which in turn, helps in real life.

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Be a slinger...lol, hahaha..
Me? I'm headed over to Lita Fords self sufficient homestead island. We'll live in blissful isolation.
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There may be slingers, but should you do it?

I'd say it depends on the info you can get about the particular job. If you've got nothing contradicting that the way is clear enough, then why not. If you've got no info, though, then I guess you shouldn't risk getting caught in the disorder.

People signed up to do military work in Iraq and Afghanistan, and what was that like?

If slingers survive, then they might be important sources of history. They might be people who went into the cities and traveled out again and again during TEOTWAWKI.
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OP plan on standing on a pedestal as an act of endurance and demonstration of strength?
Pop,

There's gold in them thar hills.

When TEOTWAWKI happens, a lot of people may not see it for what it is. In other words--- you accept what's in front of your face, and don't try to be the prognosticator too much, if you don't think you have the expertise for it. In fact, a lot of regular life's like that. Things may look bad before the other shoe can fall--- but you don't really know how bad. And it's actually paranoia when you always err on the side of caution.

To the typical, clever person, it looks like you've got to know things are bad, and not cross the line and think it's the apocalypse. You've got to know how to be careful in NYC, but still have the balls to be making money off of NYC. You've got to not forsake it, and not risk being outcompeted by your rivals in your business, simply because of something as trivial as overestimating a fad for antifa protests, street crime, or a spate of blackouts, or whatever else it might be that's destabilizing NYC, Boston, LA, etc.

If all that's true, then before SHTF, people will tend to be working according to the usual rules of life / usual assumptions. Money talks, etc.

So let's say what's happening, at face value, doesn't necessarily look like TEOTWAWKI or SHTF yet. Let's say it just looks like NYC getting pretty bad.

The problem that's in front of people's face is just dealing with New York, and the people who have combat experience have to make a buck. They have clients who they are driving in and out of the city, and around the city, for a year or two. And one day, that finally turns into, "Get me the heck out of the city for good-- discreetly."

That's all.

Another way to put it is, what would you be doing if it was the apocalypse, but people didn't know it was the apocalypse yet, and you had the skills, guts, and inclination to be a security man? You'd be a security man. If the market for security men at that time was evacuating people from New York, then you might be doing that, even if it was a daunting job.
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Throughout the ages there has always been mercenaries for hire, and I much doubt a time will ever come when they are extinct. The real question is what sort of intentional community would accept an influx of useless and unskilled city refugees?
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Those movies are weak, the best SHTF movie of recent times is definitely Book of Eli.

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Reuters says Singapore has its own Ghurkas- wondering whose asses they'll be kicking if Singapore experiences TEOTWAWKI.

The article says that when off-duty, they're kept on a compound far away from the regular people of Singapore.
Gurkas are part of the British army. I cant see why they would be Singapore. Maybe private contractors.
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Gurkas are part of the British army. I cant see why they would be Singapore. Maybe private contractors.
Those ghurka units were elite, from what I hear.

Crazy how a country like Britain can have such an outstanding military, yet such backwards gun laws, "stateside".

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Those ghurka units were elite, from what I hear.

Crazy how a country like Britain can have such an outstanding military, yet such backwards gun laws, "stateside".

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