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Thank you very much for posting the link for this thread. Does anyone have direct knowledge of Karlos? I have seen zero post for almost five years for Karlos or for Ranger Stoves either. I would appreciate any info.
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Backpacking, I use an inexpensive foldable twig burner to hold an alcohol stove.
The twig burner functions as both a wind break & pot stand for the alcohol stove.

If I run out of alcohol fuel, I use the twig burner alone.

Together they are durable dependable compact lightweight duel purpose cooking kit



Check the links below for both a good little alcohol stove & twig burner for less then $20 combined cost.
(not counting the cost of the alcohol fuel flask, spark wheel ignitor & flint container shown in my picture above)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Camping-Hik...a3e1985477a2d0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lixada-Outd...MAAOSwV4Ba-Tiz
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I have a solo lite, solo ranger, and a solo bonfire. All 3 do pretty good.
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a small tin can wood gas stove will generate significantly more heat while using much less fuel than a simple hobo style can with holes, it will do this with almost no visible flame and if designed and built properly it will not leave soot on your gear (and none of these three stoves make any smoke from the time they are lit and burn and go out) and they will boil your water faster heating you up quicker and on a cold wet day that is a real bonus. So there are significant advantages including the ability to make charcoal which can be used to filter water and treat wounds. If you are going to commit to carrying around weight in the form of equipment then it only makes sense to carry the best most functional gear that you can.

additional note: a well designed wood gas stove is about ten times more fuel efficient than a regular tin can stove.
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a small tin can wood gas stove will generate significantly more heat while using much less fuel than a simple hobo style can with holes, it will do this with almost no visible flame and if designed an built properly it will not leave soot on your gear and it will boil you water faster heating you up quicker and on a cold wet day that is a real bonus. So there are significant advantages including the ability to make charcoal which can be used to filter water and treat wounds. If you are going to commit to carrying around weight in the form of equipment then it only makes sense to carry the best most functional gear that you can.
Well, if you have lots of cash to throw around, OK.
But some of us may prefer saving money for one reason or another, such as putting the savings to other uses.
Anyway I challenge most all of your assertions. Less fuel? Possibly, but remember, it's a twig stove and there is no shortage of twigs, generally speaking. Faster? How much faster? A few minutes? I don't think I'll freeze to death in those minutes.
Visible flame? A aluminum foil windscreen or a protected site covers that, you may wish to be in a secluded spot anyway, eh?
I dare say more charcoal would be left from a hobo stove than from a more 'fuel efficient ' stove as well. Besides, charcoal is best made in a closed container.
Weight? You tell me the weight of your gasifier stove, I'll tell you the weight of my Ikea hobo - bet I win.
Soot on the gear? OK, you are right there.

Efficiency. If that's your number one why not get a canister stove and use rocket fuel? But I'm being snarky. We are talking twig stoves.
I'm just saying even though the various stoves all have their advantages and disadvantages, hobo stoves take a back seat to none.
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^^ You're both right. It's a question of tradeoffs so one of these stoves isn't "better than" another unless you're dogmatic about the criteria. And since everybody has different criteria--or since every situation isn't the same--it's good to know about all the options.

That's why I'm a gear whore with more stoves than I could feasibly need. And hammocks. And sleeping bags. And backpacks. And guns (before they got washed away in the great flood of 2018).
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each of the stove designs which I posted are all made from used tin cans, one of the designs uses a single can construction and the other two designs use two cans for the main stove and a third small tin for the pot-stand/chimney. Each of the three designs posted are highly refined with respect to performance very much not the norm for free and available on line projects. I think that re using and re purposing left over tin cans would be considered a great way to save money not to mention the hobby aspect and gratification that DIY offers. I am glad that you love your hobo stove and that it meets all your needs and sensibilities. Lots of other folks with different priorities. Please feel free to enjoy yours and please respect others to do the same.
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minimal smoke twigs and branches no ground contact and no bark.
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Military Natick cooker or canteen cup stand, combined with a small battery operated, hand-held, cooling fan works great as water boiler with your canteen cup and metal cover.
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I use an old dogfood can that i have drilled some airholes along the bottom. Burns twigs, cones and grass effectively. Is it the best? I have no idea, but it was free, weighs next to nothing, and gives a nice warm flame for cooking.
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