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Black widows, funnel webs, brown recluse
Rattle snakes, scorpions and mountain lions.. even little poisonous caterpillars...

Give me all that and please take away the ticks, sand fleas, killer bees and mosquitos.. that's all I care about
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This is a great thread and I appreciate the knowledge many of you have. I've been learning a lot.

Here's a question one of you may be able to answer. I live in So Cal and while out hiking I have been seeing more lizards than I have ever seen (all sizes). Is this because the snake population is low? I know they have many predators but I have wondered why there are so many this year.
The answer could be in the water shortage rather than snake population. Most reptiles do well in desert conditions with few predators around. Predators like wild cats and even birds could have moved on to places that still have water, leaving lizards to multiply freely where water is less abundant
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When I was a kid, my cousin and I climbed a tree to drop fire crackers on a Red Ant mound. The ants climbed the tree and overcame us so we had to drop from the limb onto the huge Red Ant mound.

Later in life I was bitten my a Coral Snake and did not die (obviously). My arm felt like it was in a fire for 24 hours. I did not go to the hospital because I didn't want the other nurses to know what an idiot I was.
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My husband killed a snake behind our new house in 2000. We live in northern North Carolina, about 10 miles from the Martinsville Speedway, Martinsville, Virginia. I do not have a picture but I did write down the description when I saw it. It was about 3 feet long, 6-8 inches around, triangular head, dark brown with burgundy ovals all over it's body. The ovals were different sizes. It was striking at a tire that hubby had grabbed to keep the snake away from him after he almost stepped on it. He used that tire to kill it. He said it was shaking it's tail and rattling. I contacted the Greensboro Science Center and the "reptile person" said it could be someone's pet that escaped, but he couldn't identify it.I have been trying to identify it since then, but the closest I have come to an identity is a picture from the web of an Asian/African species. I hope someone can put a name to this snake. (It's skin texture wasn't "rough" looking like a rattler, but "smoother" looking like a garter. I hope this makes sense.)

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these buggers hurt, very common. When I was a young soldier, we were learning de bussing APC,s. The APC (M113) ran over the nest just as they lowered the ramp, I de bussed, and dived onto the grond, a few seconds later, I was stung over 20 times, and had attracted the attention of everyone else there, they thought Id been shot!
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Very cool thread, great reference. Here in AZ, we see the bark scorpions all the time, frequently in the house. They are quite hard to control sometimes. My best approach is to wait till after dark, with a blacklight and a hammer...
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I see a lot of annoying painful insects and 1 dangerous animal but does anyone know more about larger animals like cyotes,wolves,bears,moose,ect like how likely you are to encounter them or how to avoid them and what to do if you run into them ?
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I see a lot of annoying painful insects and 1 dangerous animal but does anyone know more about larger animals like cyotes,wolves,bears,moose,ect like how likely you are to encounter them or how to avoid them and what to do if you run into them ?
I use to coyote hunt a lot, cause these woods are Full of them, and the deer hunters claim their dwindling our Large Buck population. You have to stay downwind of them, which is hard because they hunt in a circular motion, to pick up your scent. It's funny, sometimes you are likely to just Run in to one walking. They usually run. One night, years ago, my oldest son and his buddy's walked off in the woods and were suppose to be back before dark. When they weren't, I went looking for them(they were just getting home on another foreland when I went looking. Two miles out, I decided to get home, and get my truck to see if they were at one of their friends house. I had about 10 coyotes circling me and howling, the entire time. They never came into the road where I could see them, but they got within 5 yards of me. All I had was my knife. But I'm not easily scared, you have to be the Predator, and they sense it. You can't be afraid. Come get me, I'm gonna take you out one by one attitude....in a few minutes they had a rabbit screaming like a baby and I was home were my Son had been for over an hour. We have bears here but few. They say the danger of a bear, is you can be watching him from a scope at 100 yds, just walking along, but he's already on your trail.. Gators are tricky to, but I'll stick with them, and let y'all have the Bears..by the way, I knife hunt, the Bear may get me, but He will know it he had a fight ...I'm an adrenalin junky on my knife hunting, so I Have to stay out of Big Bear country, cause I would have to try. Only live once right?
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My husband killed a snake behind our new house in 2000. We live in northern North Carolina, about 10 miles from the Martinsville Speedway, Martinsville, Virginia. I do not have a picture but I did write down the description when I saw it. It was about 3 feet long, 6-8 inches around, triangular head, dark brown with burgundy ovals all over it's body. The ovals were different sizes. It was striking at a tire that hubby had grabbed to keep the snake away from him after he almost stepped on it. He used that tire to kill it. He said it was shaking it's tail and rattling. I contacted the Greensboro Science Center and the "reptile person" said it could be someone's pet that escaped, but he couldn't identify it.I have been trying to identify it since then, but the closest I have come to an identity is a picture from the web of an Asian/African species. I hope someone can put a name to this snake. (It's skin texture wasn't "rough" looking like a rattler, but "smoother" looking like a garter. I hope this makes sense.)
If you had or have a good pic, I could definitely identify it for you. foreign snake or not.
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Were the ovals more like V's? May have been a fresh shed Timber Rattler
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My brother dared me to pick one up once. A painful decision.
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Very cool thread, great reference. Here in AZ, we see the bark scorpions all the time, frequently in the house. They are quite hard to control sometimes. My best approach is to wait till after dark, with a blacklight and a hammer...
you beat me to it, when I lived in Key West FL I was stung on the neck in the middle of the night, lost function of the left side of my face for 23 hrs. If I was allergic I would have been a dead man.

Also I have seen Red Fire ants cover a kid in a matter of min's. they move fast and are hard to get off.
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Not sure if Aussies posted yet but for guys looking to visit or train here, the list off the top of my head with minimal googling.

Our deadly species, require immediate intervention.
Box jellyfish, Cone Shell( fires a barb if you pick up its shell), blue ringed octopus, funnel web spider, Inland Taipan and another ten snakes included in the worlds most venomous -Coastal taipan, mulga snake, Death Adder, Eastern Brown, Western brown, Black Snake, Tiger Snake

Potentially fatal or high risk.
About another 20 types of snake similar to rattler level poison. Redback spider(similar to black widow), stingray, another dozen smaller jellyfish species, Shellback paralysis tick.

Low risk but painful.
Creek Stonefish, Giant Centipede, Scorpions, large hunting spiders/tarantulids,White tail spider-( necrotizing wounds and flesh loss)Variety of stinging ants/bull ants/ inch ants as we call them, being over an inch long,Rainforest stinging tree. (hairs on leaves inject nuerotoxin, pain and symptoms lasting to 3 months), fire vine, other stinging nettle type plants.

Most are avoidable as many exist in the wild and basic common sense and keeping your eyes open is usually all you need.

Well its a terrible list but at least we don't have bears and rabies :D
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Is there anti-venom or field first-aid treatment for venom coming out of these species ;

Rove beetle (Paederus fasciatus)

Temple viper (Tropidolaemus wagleri)
White-lipped pit viper (Trimeresurus albolabris albolabris)
Banded krait (Bungarus fasciatus)
Asian coral snakes (Calliophis)
Javan spitting cobra (Naja sputatrix)
King cobra (Ophiophagus hannah)

I'm aware that every snakes has different kind of venom thus requiring different anti-venom, however I'm very much clueless for medical / first-aid related subject

Thanks beforehand
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Is there anti-venom or field first-aid treatment for venom coming out of these species ;

Rove beetle (Paederus fasciatus)

Temple viper (Tropidolaemus wagleri)
White-lipped pit viper (Trimeresurus albolabris albolabris)
Banded krait (Bungarus fasciatus)
Asian coral snakes (Calliophis)
Javan spitting cobra (Naja sputatrix)
King cobra (Ophiophagus hannah)

I'm aware that every snakes has different kind of venom thus requiring different anti-venom, however I'm very much clueless for medical / first-aid related subject

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You need to look up your countries protocols.
These are extremely dangerous snakes, particularly the King Cobra, and the Banded Krait.
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Old post but eh, I'll respond.

I should mention I have very high pain tolerance. I have a long history of responding to major injuries or painful medical issues (kidney stones, brachial neuritis, spinal cord compression due to herniated disks, dental abcesses, etc) with a low key, "Uh, this hurts, I think something is wrong ..." rather than the more traditional sobs of pain. I've been stung by scorpions on multiple occasions and my reaction was just to make a face,and put ice on it. Last time I got stung by a regular bee I didn't even register it as painful.

So when I tried to swat a tarantula hawk with a rolled up magazine and managed to swat it with my knuckles instead, and got stung on the finger, let's just say I was impressed by the pain. I think I scared the cats with the profanity.


Spectacular sting. Do not recommend.
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I see a lot of annoying painful insects and 1 dangerous animal but does anyone know more about larger animals like cyotes,wolves,bears,moose,ect like how likely you are to encounter them or how to avoid them and what to do if you run into them ?
IF YOU are in North America, coyotes and wolves are not a big concern as far as personal threat. Coyotes will put a LOT of distance between you and them as soon as they know you are there. YES, wolves are big and run in packs etc,
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I have spent a fairly large part of my formative years in wolf country and have had them glide by me almost close enough to touch... AND they DID NOT CARE that I was there, They barely even acknowledged my existence by glancing at me. Wolves live their lives doing wolf things and they just don't have any desire to interact with us. Or, to put it another way.. if wolves were really a danger to people no one would ever go into the woods again. They are stealthy and intelligent and could take down folks before they knew what was happening. Unlike ASia or Eastern Europe, our wolves never had the opportunity to develop a taste for humans from plagues and conquest of millennia of battles. I don't think they like our flavor.

Black bear.. 99.99% of the time they run the other way. They are not a "brave" bear. BUt if one ever does come for you it has become used to humans as a food source(as in people feed them), or it is inclined to kill you. Black bear attacks are usually fatal unless you can stop them. Unlike a grizzly they don't just swat a couple of times and then leave. The black bear coming after you intends to make you very dead.
They are only generally dangerous when injured or with cubs.

Moose injure or kill more folks a year than bears. They are dangerous in the Spring when the calves are born. The mothers have ZERO sense of humor and in the fall when the bulls are in rut, they get a little crazy. They can pop up anywhere in their range and if you are in Anchorage they can be found walking down main streets because they have adapted to "civilization" to keep away from the bears and wolves. The biggest danger from them is hitting them with your car. A friend of mine did his undergrad at UA Fairbanks, and they had moose on the campus all the time and every year someone would forget the rules of moose and get chopped up by the giant herbivores.

Grizzly are territorial, don't have a great sense of humor and are pretty solitary in their lives except when the salmon are running. They are avoided by paying attention to where you are going and not surprising them. Most dangerous when sows have their cubs or you come up on them while they are feeding on a kill they are guarding. Then they can attack out of reflex even though you are not a threat. As I said, they do NOT like surprises.
Bear spray or BIG guns will work.

I have spent a fair amount of time in BIG bear territory and have never had a problem because I am careful with my food sources and I do not wander blindly up wind into areas I can't see far into. In the thick I want wind at my back so they can smell me long before I get there. One time in Alaska I was headed cross country around the base of a mountain I was bypassing and the only way was through some very thick growth by walking a bear trail. It was like a tunnel. I checked the wind and made sure it was coming the right way and then I started a low whistling as I went through. Visibility was down to about 20-30 feet in places. I never would have done it if the wind was in my face. ... I don't like those kind of surprises either.

Basically the woods are not that dangerous so long as you pay attention and don't go crashing through with an Ipod in your ears.
Most critters will try to avoid contact with us horrible humans.
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