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Old 02-13-2012, 11:22 PM
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I am getting pretty good at it, I could probably build an AR in 2 or 3 hours. Fun too!
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Assembling a lower receiver is very easy. Like others have said all the parts are drop in so you can't get them mixed up. One of the only tricky things is getting those small detent pins for the safty in. There spring loaded and tend to go flying across the room if your not careful. Once its in your carpet its gone for good lol.

Assembling a upper is another story. I never had the pleasure. I've read it can be tricky you gotta use vices and get head spacing right. To me that seems like a lot of hassle.

I highly recommend you getting the parts kit and putting it together yourself. You get a good sense of pride knowing you did it yourself and you get to save some money.
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If you can build with legos. You can build an AR. All you need are some basic tools. A barrel/forend wrench is a must have. It shouldn't take long to crank one out from a parts kit.
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If you can build with legos. You can build an AR. All you need are some basic tools. A barrel/forend wrench is a must have. It shouldn't take long to crank one out from a parts kit.
His selected parts kit includes an assembled upper, so he won't need a barrel wrench.
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OK tell me what you think please...

Going with the previously linked 16" Rifle Kit with a few changes in selection choices that they give me.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...rifle-kit.html

ADDING:
MOE MID HD BLK Handguard = + $20.00
Standard PSA M4 Stock = $0.00 (Plan to get a BUMP Stock later)
MOE GRIP BLK = + $11.00
A2 Flash Hinder = +0.00 (I should get this right?)
SIGHT - ????? Not sure.... need some help here.

PSA STRIPPED LOWER - OUT OF STOCK but $80.00 when they come in.

TOTAL = $710.00 without SIGHTS

Thoughts/comments?
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Wait a minute, STRIPPED LOWERS these are IN STOCK TODAY, should I jump on it and buy it right now? Just worried they will run out and i'll have to wait weeks?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...r15-lower.html
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You should get a 16"
just on the idea you may want to change the flash hider and put a suppressor on it later in life. The 14.7" flash hider is pinned.

You tube has many good build videos.
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You should get a 16"
just on the idea you may want to change the flash hider and put a suppressor on it later in life. The 14.7" flash hider is pinned.

You tube has many good build videos.
DO you know how the flash hinder on the 16" is? IS it pinned?
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DO you know how the flash hinder on the 16" is? IS it pinned?
Not pinned on a 16". The 14.7" barrel is pinned.
PSA is right down the street from my house. Everything they put their name on is good quality. Most of their parts come from FN, who is also in Columbia. If the specs list "machine gun steel" for the barrel on one of their uppers, the barrel was supplied by FN. "Machine gun steel" is FN's proprietary alloy that they use for the M240B and M249 machine gun barrels, hence the name.
IMHO, you may want to hold off buying a stripped lower. They put them on sale for $49.95 fairly often. It shouldn't be long before another sale rolls around.
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Not pinned on a 16". The 14.7" barrel is pinned.
PSA is right down the street from my house. Everything they put their name on is good quality. Most of their parts come from FN, who is also in Columbia. If the specs list "machine gun steel" for the barrel on one of their uppers, the barrel was supplied by FN. "Machine gun steel" is FN's proprietary alloy that they use for the M240B and M249 machine gun barrels, hence the name.
IMHO, you may want to hold off buying a stripped lower. They put them on sale for $49.95 fairly often. It shouldn't be long before another sale rolls around.
SO would I be UNABLE to add a Supressor to the 16" then?

Yes I made sure the Rifle Kit I went with was FN Machine Gun steel, hammer forged, and double chrome lined, particle tested, nato 5.56, full auto bolt carrier, etc all MIL SPEC'd. At least thats what the rifle kit says.

Man I don;t know if I can wait, I LOVE saving money but I want this weapon so bad I can hardly stand it.

Any suggestions on the rear sight? I know i;d love to run an EOTech but I also know it will be a while before I get on at almost 450-500 a pop. SO I was thinking where could I find a say bushnell halo and run a Back up flip up iron sight? What do you think? I am used to the carry handle from the Marines but i'd like to run an optic eventually.
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ANy thoughts on this front MOE vertical grip?..considering i'm going with the MOE front handguard

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ical-grip.html
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SO would I be UNABLE to add a Supressor to the 16" then?

Yes I made sure the Rifle Kit I went with was FN Machine Gun steel, hammer forged, and double chrome lined, particle tested, nato 5.56, full auto bolt carrier, etc all MIL SPEC'd. At least thats what the rifle kit says.

Man I don;t know if I can wait, I LOVE saving money but I want this weapon so bad I can hardly stand it.

Any suggestions on the rear sight? I know i;d love to run an EOTech but I also know it will be a while before I get on at almost 450-500 a pop. SO I was thinking where could I find a say bushnell halo and run a Back up flip up iron sight? What do you think? I am used to the carry handle from the Marines but i'd like to run an optic eventually.
I went with a removable carrying handle. I prefer to just remove it and install my Aimpoint P.R.O. rather than fooling with any sort of flip up sight. Just personal preference more than anything else. I just like the look of the handle better than the flip up types, especially since I have a 20" barrel and a fixed A2 type stock.

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ANy thoughts on this front MOE vertical grip?..considering i'm going with the MOE front handguard

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ical-grip.html
The one AR I've shot that had one installed felt pretty good. It's as solid as any rail mount grip I've played with.
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So the one 16" I linked is the Flat Top, so I can mount a removable carry handle for now, then down the road opt for an EOTech and BUIS (flip up)? Sound right? Logical?

Probably better than buying it without optics, and only having the flip up sight? What do you think?
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So the one 16" I linked is the Flat Top, so I can mount a removable carry handle for now, then down the road opt for an EOTech and BUIS (flip up)? Sound right? Logical?
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Probably better than buying it without optics, and only having the flip up sight? What do you think?

Or is the flip up sight superior than the carry handle iron sight?
The handle is tougher than the flip up sights, but it's also a little heavier. I prefer it, because it's the standard old A2 style rear sight that I am used to from the military and it just feels more sturdy with no swivel to work loose. Having the handle to grab onto when moving it around at the range is nice too. Nothing wrong with a flip up if that's the route you decide to go. Again personal preference more than anything else.
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The handle is tougher than the flip up sights, but it's also a little heavier. I prefer it, because it's the standard old A2 style rear sight that I am used to from the military and it just feels more sturdy with no swivel to work loose. Having the handle to grab onto when moving it around at the range is nice too. Nothing wrong with a flip up if that's the route you decide to go. Again personal preference more than anything else.
Awesome, thanks for answering my questions to give me more clarification. So yah that sounds like what I would like also (Carry Handle) i've used to my Marine Corps M4 so the carry handle is all I really know. So i think I will go with that for now, then down the road add an EOTech and a BUIS.

Cool so Carry Handle it is then! Thanks!
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Awesome, thanks for answering my questions to give me more clarification. So yah that sounds like what I would like also (Carry Handle) i've used to my Marine Corps M4 so the carry handle is all I really know. So i think I will go with that for now, then down the road add an EOTech and a BUIS.

Cool so Carry Handle it is then! Thanks!
No problem! Hope you enjoy your new rifle.
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ANy thoughts on this front MOE vertical grip?..considering i'm going with the MOE front handguard

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ical-grip.html

And these RAILS?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ymer-rail.html

DO these go together? Would you suggest adding them?
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Just talked to my nearest local gun range who is an FFL.

They charge $50.00 to do the Lower FFL transfer. Is this around the normal price?
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Just talked to my nearest local gun range who is an FFL.

They charge $50.00 to do the Lower FFL transfer. Is this around the normal price?
NO!!! $50 is WAY too much! I pay around $20. Use this link to find a dealer and what they charge for a transfer:

http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/DealerNetwork.aspx
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