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This is why I bought a regular LCP. The hammer is not cocked all the time on the LCP, and takes a long heavy trigger pull to fire. I think for it's self defense role, the LCP is a better gun to carry, or at least I feel safer carrying it on a loaded chamber. The trigger on the LCP2 felt too light for its role. I don't believe empty chamber carry.
Unless I'm missing something, if you chamber a round, the hammer is cocked. It still has a long trigger pull (it *is* a Ruger, after all), but the only way I've ever found to decock the LCP is to fire it, dry or loaded.

Tell me how I'm wrong?
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The LCPII has not just one but two sear catches on the hammer.
Anyone carrying one on an empty chamber should probably live in a padded room wearing full football pads and a helmet just to be safe.

Yes, anything can fail, but someone carrying an LCPII loaded has better odds of getting hit and killed by a meteorite than their gun magically going off in their pocket because of a mechanical failure.
That's my choice, and I don't live in a padded room where you should reside. I wouldn't carry a 1911 cocked and locked either. When I carry my revolvers, it's sitting on an empty, transfer bar or not.
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I put you on ignore last exchange we had, and stupidly wanted to see what you had to say on a pistol subject. Won't make that mistake again on any subject.
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I put you on ignore last exchange we had, and stupidly wanted to see what you had to say on a pistol subject. Won't make that mistake again on any subject.
Haha!!!
The butthurt is strong with you isnít it?

I replied to your paranoia by letting you know that the LCPII has two safety notches and that you are being overly cautious about ďsafetyĒ and you called me crazy.
So I respond in kind and you get all butthurt?

First days on the internet for you or what?

Iím not going to ignore you, because Iím set on figuring out what retread you are.

You wonít see this, but have yourself a great day and I sure hope you donít need to defend yourself and if you do I hope you have enough time to chamber a round...
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I also picked up a LCP. It has a heavy DA trigger pull and the fixed sights suck. I can't hit S__ with it at 25yds. I figure it will work as a point blank "get off me" gun on days that I'm really paranoid of printing. May try to find an ankle holster for it.

I've been pocket carrying my Ruger LC9S Pro all summer - condition 1. It has a lighter trigger but takes some movement for it to go off.
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I also picked up a LCP. It has a heavy DA trigger pull and the fixed sights suck. I can't hit S__ with it at 25yds. I figure it will work as a point blank "get off me" gun on days that I'm really paranoid of printing. May try to find an ankle holster for it.



I've been pocket carrying my Ruger LC9S Pro all summer - condition 1. It has a lighter trigger but takes some movement for it to go off.
The LCP II has an improved trigger over the original LCP. I generally practice with it at about 15-30' max, draw from holster point shoot double taps to CoM. Just for fun I did a six shot slow fire at 50' and was able to put all rounds on target with a spread of around 12" or so. Good enough. 75' is pretty far for a small pocket gun and it's unlikely you would need to shoot it that far in defense. The LC9 sounds like a great option as well!

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Unless I'm missing something, if you chamber a round, the hammer is cocked. It still has a long trigger pull (it *is* a Ruger, after all), but the only way I've ever found to decock the LCP is to fire it, dry or loaded.



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On the LCP the hammer is not cocked until you pull the trigger which cocks and releases the trigger. Even on the LCP2 the hammer is only partially cocked and incapable of firing until you complete the action of pulling the trigger.

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On the LCP the hammer is not cocked until you pull the trigger which cocks and releases the trigger. Even on the LCP2 the hammer is only partially cocked and incapable of firing until you complete the action of pulling the trigger.
hmm . . . That's not what I see when I rack the slide.

I will eyeball it closer
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hmm . . . That's not what I see when I rack the slide.

I will eyeball it closer
Take your empty gun and rack the slide. Its supposedly cocked now, right?

No. Look at the back of th gun where you can see the hammer, and watch it as you pull the trigger. You'll see it come back, and come back some more, and it will have to come all the way back before it falls. So it is NOT cocked even when you rack the slide and chamber a round.

The gun has to have the trigger pulled all the way back for the gun to go off. This is a very well engineered gun, and it is as safe to carry as any double action revolver. You can chamber a round, slap and bang the gun around. It's NOT going off until the trigger is pulled.

Paint the front sight with white appliance touchup paint from Home Depot and you will make hits out at 20 yards with no pro Ems once the trigger is broken in with 400-500 rounds. The LCP is the best bang for the buck pistol on the market.
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We have two.they will eat everything.even had some 35 year old silvertips and some old wwb.no issues.
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I really like some Ruger centerfire rifles, revolvers, as well as most of the various 22s they make, but I'm having a tough time thinking of even one single semi-auto centerfire pistol they've ever made which I actually like. They've made plenty that, if I'm honest, are decent quality pistols. I just don't like them at all.

They've really mastered the art of making a reliable pistol that's also affordable. But I just don't like any of them, for various reasons. Some are ugly, some are clunky, most have terrible triggers in my opinion. And I just can't figure out why on earth they seem to keep putting out new models of 9mm or 380 pistols on a continuous basis, but rarely ever make any of their pistols compatible with the magazines of any of their other pistols. They should take a lesson from the Glock playbook; magazine interchangeability is a nice selling point.

That being said, I picked up a gen 1 LCP 380 last night. At that selling price I just plain couldn't turn it down. So, I guess now I have a spare pistol and IWB holster in case I ever run across a friend or family member who needs a small carry gun. I'll never carry it, but I imagine someday someone around here will be glad to have it.

Now I just have to get around to breaking it down and seeing if I can smooth out this gritty trigger pull a little bit. Then clean it up, test fire it, buy a spare mag for it and put it in storage for a rainy day.

It's been nice to be able to read this, and a few other LCP threads on the forum, and see what others here have to say about them.
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