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Old 12-01-2019, 05:34 PM
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In my humble opinion, teachers should keep their opinions to themselves whether they are leftist loons or conservative moralists.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/educatio...itute-told-th/

Teach the subject to the best of your ability and then STFU.

“What are you thankful for this year?”

“I’m thankful that I’m finally going to be adopted by my two dads,”

“Why on earth would you be happy about that?”
“That’s nothing to be thankful for.”


She should have gone for the jugular and told the 11 year-old boy he would be better off in foster care until he aged out. <sarc>

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Whatever your views on homosexuality, gay marriage or gay adoption, this teacher had no business going after this kid the way she did.

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She's completely out of line.
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Excellent post, Lagnar.
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But if the student had mentioned he was Mormon, and had 5 mothers
she probably would have kept her trap shut.

Just kidding
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....Whatever your views on homosexuality, gay marriage or gay adoption, this teacher had no business going after this kid the way she did.
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But if the student had mentioned he was Mormon, and had 5 mothers
she probably would have kept her trap shut.

Just kidding
True though.
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Under [censored] there is no such thing as [deleted] so whatever they do is a [redacted].
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Agreed. Teacher was out of line and should be ordered to issue an apology to the student and the two dads.
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Agreed. Teacher was out of line and should be ordered to issue an apology to the student and the two dads.
If she was a substitute, she was probably not a member of the Union.
So they will probably not let her sub any more, at least for a while.
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Agreed. Teacher was out of line and should be ordered to issue an apology to the student and the two dads.
and then fired and then charges pressed for harrassment or whatever because an apology won't wipe the memory from the kid's head.
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If she was a substitute, she was probably not a member of the Union. So they will probably not let her sub any more, at least for a while.
She is there to teach, not be the moral police. She should be done teaching.
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Agreed. Teacher was out of line and should be ordered to issue an apology to the student and the two dads.
I'd say just the student (minor). She can dis the gay dads (adults) all she wants on her own time outside of the classroom as long as she doesn't link her opinions with her job as a teacher. If she throws shade on her employer they should be able to fire her.

The problem with the above is that leftist teachers get away with their shenanigans where the conservative ones do not.

If she had told any OTHER student that their parents suck for being something she disapproved of it would be the same thing.

You don't tell a student their parents suck. (no pun intended)
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I'd say just the student (minor). She can dis the gay dads (adults) all she wants on her own time outside of the classroom as long as she doesn't link her opinions with her job as a teacher. If she throws shade on her employer they should be able to fire her.
Going to disagree. She owes the whole class an apology as she continued to argue with them about it even after she was asked by other students in the class to stop. Whether she agrees with the lifestyle or not, she still owes the "dads" an apology as well.
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I remember I was about 7 and a little girl in my class asked me where my mother was. I said California.

"No she isn't" she replied "Your mother is in a mental hospital!"
I went home and asked and was told it was true.

One of the worst memories of my childhood. It wasn't a teacher but still bad.

Personally I don't think they should let gays adopt. But it is not up to me.

But the teacher should have replied "Oh, OK" and moved on to the next student.
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She is there to teach, not be the moral police. She should be done teaching.
You don't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed
to be a sub. But it helps if your not a child molester
or have a short temper.

People make mistakes.

If they have plenty of people who want to be
substitutes, you are probably right.

They probably don't.
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You don't have to be the sharpest tool in the shed
to be a sub. But it helps if your not a child molester
or have a short temper.

People make mistakes.

If they have plenty of people who want to be
substitutes, you are probably right.

They probably don't.
She made a mistake alright. She kept on arguing with the class about how it was wrong even after she was asked by other students to stop it. If she couldn't restrain herself after 11 and 12 year olds asked her to stop she should be done. At least in that particular district.
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certainly, by far not the worst thing i've heard teachers say or do to students based on their political beliefs.. only, 99/100 times the teacher perpetrating the acts are leftwing radicals defended by the school boards and the media.. so this teacher gets fired but the ones who harass, belittle, and humiliate children on a daily basis for having straight parents, for being white, or even for making a gun shape out of their fingers ffs, tend to keep their jobs
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In my humble opinion, teachers should keep their opinions to themselves whether they are leftist loons or conservative moralists.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/educatio...itute-told-th/

Teach the subject to the best of your ability and then STFU.

“What are you thankful for this year?”

“I’m thankful that I’m finally going to be adopted by my two dads,”

“Why on earth would you be happy about that?”
“That’s nothing to be thankful for.”


She should have gone for the jugular and told the 11 year-old boy he would be better off in foster care until he aged out. <sarc>

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Whatever your views on homosexuality, gay marriage or gay adoption, this teacher had no business going after this kid the way she did.

Agreed, she was way out of line and deserves to be dismissed. Just wish there was a fairness standard when left wing educators do the same to center right Kids.
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Going to disagree. She owes the whole class an apology as she continued to argue with them about it even after she was asked by other students in the class to stop. Whether she agrees with the lifestyle or not, she still owes the "dads" an apology as well.
You are right. The kid must have been mortified in front of all his classmates.

She owes the "dads" an apology for her behavior toward their soon to be adopted son.

She can express her opinion about them and their lifestyle to them in person if she chooses. And they can respond. Doing so in public just harms the kid even more.

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From what I've heard, older children are less likely to be adopted than babies and young children. I don't know the circumstances of this whether they were fostering him or what. I'm not the one to judge on their suitability.

It's too bad this made the news at all. Louis Van Amstel, one of the dads, is known for his work on Dancing With The Stars. A show I've never seen and never plan to.

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Edit: Van Amstel outed the boy's name on his facebook page. Now the loathsome media will never let him alone.
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certainly, by far not the worst thing i've heard teachers say or do to students based on their political beliefs.. only, 99/100 times the teacher perpetrating the acts are leftwing radicals defended by the school boards and the media.. so this teacher gets fired but the ones who harass, belittle, and humiliate children on a daily basis for having straight parents, for being white, or even for making a gun shape out of their fingers ffs, tend to keep their jobs
And that's the double standard we on the right point out all the time.

She was out of line and conservatives here on SB aren't afraid to point it out. But the left NEVER assumes any guilt on its part no matter how egregious the offense.
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She's completely out of line.


And likely out of a job is my guess.
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