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Old 12-07-2019, 11:34 AM
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Here's 3 videos showing how to get unstuck.


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1. Air down the tires.
2. Use the E-Brake (1 click) to simulate a locker on an open rear diff.
3. Using low range and low RPM 1000 to 1500.
4. Saw the steering wheel left and right.

Mud, snow, waterfront sand - you probably still want to have some self recovery gear - winch, come along, traction boards, snow chains, Hi-lift jack, shovel, recovery straps etc.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:46 PM
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Stand outside your vehicle and speak loudly the following words "Aw heck, I'm stuck in the sand. Now all my beer is gonna get warm." and then watch the big red neck 4x4's show up fighting over who can pull you out..

Word of warning: You better have at least 2 six packs of beer..
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Once you're buried down to your axles, you're not going anywhere

I've seen a lot of folks bury themselves even further just by doing those same things


Your best bet is a winch! I've had to pull quite a few dumbasses out

When a vehicle is buried in sand, without a winch, you either break straps or chains will pull off bumpers or even the pull vehicle gets buried.

I would pull up to their vehicle, bury myself, then use the winch to pull them out. Then I'd use their vehicle to pull myself out if need be

A winch is much safer, quicker and less damage in the long run


One time I pulled 4 vehicles out, 1 was the guy the who stuck himself, the 3 others were trying to get him out. They tore the chit out of the first truck

A winch and a snatch block can get you out of most anything and you can still run highway tires for great gas mileage
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:36 AM
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I have gotten vehicles unstuck that others thought were completely stuck by just not spinning the tires.

Rocking it back and forward even if it is only a half inch to start with is often enough to get a bottomed out vehicle unstuck in sand or snow. The trick is to absolutely not spin the tires, the instant the vehicle stops moving let off the gas. If you spin the tires even the smallest amount without the vehicle moving you will dig down and and be stuck again. Once you are moving, spinning CAN be helpful, as long as you aren't loosing momentum doing it.

If you don't have a locking diff and only one tire is spinning you can often get power to both of them by slowly setting your parking break as you are spinning, eventually both wheels will start spinning.
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Old 12-08-2019, 06:11 PM
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Once you're buried down to your axles, you're not going anywhere

I've seen a lot of folks bury themselves even further just by doing those same things


Your best bet is a winch! I've had to pull quite a few dumbasses out

When a vehicle is buried in sand, without a winch, you either break straps or chains will pull off bumpers or even the pull vehicle gets buried.

I would pull up to their vehicle, bury myself, then use the winch to pull them out. Then I'd use their vehicle to pull myself out if need be

A winch is much safer, quicker and less damage in the long run


One time I pulled 4 vehicles out, 1 was the guy the who stuck himself, the 3 others were trying to get him out. They tore the chit out of the first truck

A winch and a snatch block can get you out of most anything and you can still run highway tires for great gas mileage
I beg to differ. Proper recovery technique goes a long way.

I have posted this picture before...I am dragging the pumpkins and was able to drive out after lowering tire pressure, digging away from the front of tires and pumpkins along with laying some brush in front of tires. That is 11K+ pounds of truck, camper and trailer buried to the axles and I drove out after a bit of prep work.




There was simply no where to anchor another vehicle to use a winch, as the closest solid ground was a couple hundred yards away.
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I have gotten vehicles unstuck that others thought were completely stuck by just not spinning the tires.

Rocking it back and forward even if it is only a half inch to start with is often enough to get a bottomed out vehicle unstuck in sand or snow. The trick is to absolutely not spin the tires, the instant the vehicle stops moving let off the gas. If you spin the tires even the smallest amount without the vehicle moving you will dig down and and be stuck again. Once you are moving, spinning CAN be helpful, as long as you aren't loosing momentum doing it.

If you don't have a locking diff and only one tire is spinning you can often get power to both of them by slowly setting your parking break as you are spinning, eventually both wheels will start spinning.
Got our 28' Bounder Class A (approx 20K pounds) out of the sand in Baja doing this.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:58 PM
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You haven't got a whole vehicle if what your doing get's you stuck. get the proper equipment before you go off road.
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If you are only stuck enough for that method to work...you should be able to simply drive out of the situation.
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WAY BACk when a friend of mine who seemed to get buried with regularity and then get himself out said he developed the DEAL system of self rescue

1- Dig, as in changing the incline the tires have to overcome

2-Elevate as in jack up as best as can and fill in with rocks twigs anything that will keep the tires from sinking back in once the move a little

3- Air as in Deflate letting the air out so you have a bigger footprint

4- Leave as in once you get moving keep driving until clear and don't stop to admire your handy work.
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Got our 28' Bounder Class A (approx 20K pounds) out of the sand in Baja doing this.
I was driving through Joshua Tree park and came across a stuck camper, the pumpkin in the back was scraping and the I Beams on the front were touching the sand. I am pretty sure the guy wasn't supposed to be off road there because things just felt "sketchy" I didn't have a long enough chain to pull him out while staying on the road. I helped him for about 20 minutes but he kept spinning his tires. Eventually I talked him into letting me drive and by rocking and not spinning the tires I had him out in a couple minutes.


The same technique works in snow.

Knowing when you can spin your tires and when you can't can go a long way in getting a vehicle unstuck.
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Once you're buried down to your axles, you're not going anywhere

I've seen a lot of folks bury themselves even further just by doing those same things


Your best bet is a winch! I've had to pull quite a few dumbasses out

When a vehicle is buried in sand, without a winch, you either break straps or chains will pull off bumpers or even the pull vehicle gets buried.

I would pull up to their vehicle, bury myself, then use the winch to pull them out. Then I'd use their vehicle to pull myself out if need be

A winch is much safer, quicker and less damage in the long run


One time I pulled 4 vehicles out, 1 was the guy the who stuck himself, the 3 others were trying to get him out. They tore the chit out of the first truck

A winch and a snatch block can get you out of most anything and you can still run highway tires for great gas mileage


BACK in my early years I used to drive wrecker part time. I would get off work at the PD at midnight and go pick up a wrecker and go home. If they needed more than the full timers I would get a call and out I would go.
The sticking yourself for anchor and then pulling out the vehicle then using the freed vehicle to pull yourself out is an old wrecker trick. I used it well.

When I had my YJ Jeep with a 9000lb Ramsey on the front, I used to amaze folks when I would pull out their vehicles that were much heavier than the Jeep using the self bury trick.
With good snatch blocks and enough line you should be able to move pretty much anything so long as it isn't truly anchored into position.

Now a days I am running 9500 lb winches on the front of my truck and the Cherokee. Each vehicle has 4 snatch blocks, short chains for attachments and another full length of winch line, so I am good for about 200 feet of recovery. If I need more than that, they are SOL.

Fun trick for folks who are just getting into winches...
learn how to recover yourself FROM THE REAR using your FRONT MOUNTED winch.
hint.. there is a reason for the chains for attachment and 4 snatch blocks.
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Growing up we had no winches, but spent hours and days in the river bottom with our trucks. Stuck was just time spent doing what you had to, it was never a panic situation, less the times we were in the water LOL... had to tie off the clutch fan a few times.

Anyway we carried shovels, a comealong and 8ft fence posts. You drive the fence post into the sand at a shallow angle and crank your way out, while moving sand from infront of the tires. I always liked manual transmissions, but those with automatics fared a bit easier crawling in sand.

Just dont go to low on your tire pressure as have popped a bead, ah dont forget some lighter fluid and matches to reset the bead. Precellphones you had to do it yourself, or walk out ... done that too.
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