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Just picked this Soccer Mom Mobile up a couple weeks ago (2nd week of June). It's a '19 Toyota 4Runner Off Road w/ Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires.

Between yesterday and today, I installed a Warn VR10 w/ steel cable, Warn 100022 Hidden Winch Bumper, and a Toyota TRD Skid Plate.

Fresh from the dealer:



Bumper less:



Winch Bumper installed:


All done:




Still need a mild lift (possibly Eibach) to handle that extra weight, sliders, lights, etc...

Need to invest into some electric or air impact tools. Turning wrenches by hand is an all body workout.
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Good prep. Good vehicle.
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I hear you on that last statement. Been wrenching on all weekend. How much lift are you going to do?
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Out of curiosity any reason you chose steel over synthetic line and hook over screw pin shackle?

Just interested in seeing how others think on the subject I have steel and hook but that's all that's usable with the MB type C winches.
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Out of curiosity any reason you chose steel over synthetic line and hook over screw pin shackle?

Just interested in seeing how others think on the subject I have steel and hook but that's all that's usable with the MB type C winches.
I figure I can use steel more around the ranch - dragging logs, lifting things, without as much need to worry about it getting dirty, frayed, etc. A little more heavy duty than synthetic.
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I hear you on that last statement. Been wrenching on all weekend. How much lift are you going to do?
Small - 2 inch in the front / 1 inch in the rear. Will level it plus carry the load.

Real close to pulling the trigger on this Eibach kit:
https://www.autoanything.com/suspens...caAsunEALw_wcB

Plan is to not change the Upper Control Arms. Tires are the stock 265/70SR17.0 size, down the line I can see going up a size or 2.
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Out of curiosity any reason you chose steel over synthetic line and hook over screw pin shackle?

Just interested in seeing how others think on the subject I have steel and hook but that's all that's usable with the MB type C winches.
I HAVE been running winches on trucks for a LONG time.
Synthetics are light, strong, easy to work with
BUT
they just do not hold up to the day to day abuse it you use it A LOT.
I bought a synthetic line to replace the wire rope on my 8000lb Ramsey I have mounted in a cradle. After 25+ years of use it was still good, but I could shed a LOT of weight using synthetic over wire and IT IS HEAVY!
So I ran out my wire rope then stretched out the synthetic on the ground to get it ready to spool back in and I noticed it was picking up every twig, piece of bark, little piece of crap that was in the yard.
NOW
I use that winch A LOT, mostly for pulling down trees and ripping out stumps. The cable is in the dirt and crud A LOT. And I know that synthetic would be looking like a porcupine after a couple drags through the woods.
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I spooled the wire back on and rolled up the syn line and now have it in my truck box for a winch extender in case I need it.
ALSO you have to watch the abrasion when using synthetic line, abrasion takes a lot of toll.

If all you use it for is in snow or on pavement, then maybe it will be OK but it just isn't going to take that regular drag through the bush.Steel is just tougher.

You will notice you do not see wrecker companies using synthetic rope. .. at least not in my part of the world.

MY Silverado running a 9500lb winch


MY 2000 Cherokee running a 9500lb winch
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If all you use it for is in snow or on pavement, then maybe it will be OK but it just isn't going to take that regular drag through the bush.Steel is just tougher.
I've been running the same section of synthetic winch line for 8+ years now. I have wheeled all over the country and use it all over my property and back on my parents ranch. This includes use in mud, dirt, rock, snow, ice, trees, etc. I don't baby it at all. Friends in my group have line that is 15+ years old now. If you feel guilty about it, pull it off and wash it in a bucket once a year.

In my experience, steel cable has just as many issues, if not more when used hard. Steel cable will loop kink when spooled off without tension. It frays with use....and I have the scars on my hands that happened THROUGH leather gloves to prove it. It isn't that easy to field repair. It's heavier. It is more dangerous because it stores more energy when used.
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Winch and lift kit. Next step might be to install a dual battery system. I've got them on all my vehicles and they've been useful many times. I've never liked the idea of powering the winch with the alternator. Batteries are cheaper and much easier to change.
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Winch and lift kit. Next step might be to install a dual battery system. I've got them on all my vehicles and they've been useful many times. I've never liked the idea of powering the winch with the alternator. Batteries are cheaper and much easier to change.
There is a ton of room in the engine bay on the 4Runner. A 2nd battery would fit in there with room to spare. I'm thinking I will mount a box to store the winch controller in there as well.
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Eibach lift kit ordered. Consists of 4 shocks and 4 Springs.
Plan to install it myself. Have a floor jack but still need to buy jack stands.

Removed the nerf bars from the T4R. They were annoying to crawl over and really robbed ground clearance.





Looking at ways to mount fuel cans on the outside of the vehicle. I think I may add a ladder to the rear and mount either cans or rotapax to that.

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I have an old military fuel can mount that I could spay paint black and bolt to that ladder.

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Used my winch yesterday to pull a friend's 2wd Nissan hardbody pickup back onto his driveway. Short pull but it worked perfectly.

Hooked on to the frame under his front bumper.
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Eibach Pro Lift (4 springs & 4 shocks) added to the T4R. https://eibach.com/us/i-9884-pro-tru...a-4runner.html

Had these guys install it instead of doing it myself. $475 OTD with alignment. Seemed reasonable.
http://www.bkstrucks.com/index.html

2.5 inches in the the front and 1 inch in the rear. Gained some clearance back that was lost to the 200lbs of winch & bumper. I find the truck handles better on the road. More firm through the curves and the nose dive on breaking is significantly reduced.



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Looking great. I'm trying to seek some references before I install a lift on my truck. I already have a set in mind but it seems like I need to add bilstein shock on it.
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Looking great. I'm trying to seek some references before I install a lift on my truck. I already have a set in mind but it seems like I need to add bilstein shock on it.
I think Eibach actually makes some of the Bilstein shock / spring products.



I've been tracking my MPG since adding the lift. It's ranging between 18mpg to 20mpg - hand calculated. Which I think it pretty fantastic considering the weight of the winch and bumper.
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Installed a Cali Raised Hidden Grille LED Light Bar. Hopefully this is the last time I need to take the front end off...

My Shrockworks Step Sliders arrived yesterday and I will install them next week.



This is a little hillbilly but it will work for now:

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Looking great. I'm trying to seek some references before I install a lift on my truck. I already have a set in mind but it seems like I need to add bilstein shock on it.

I just installed a set of bilstein's on my tacoma. I like em so far.
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What kind of interior storage compartments do 4Runners have? Any inside storage under the back deck in the rear?

Looking at the website I donít see anything but the front center console.

Are there any compartments at all in the rear?
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What kind of interior storage compartments do 4Runners have? Any inside storage under the back deck in the rear?

Looking at the website I don’t see anything but the front center console.

Are there any compartments at all in the rear?
Not much, there's an open cubby behind the passenger rear wheel well.
I have my tow strap and shackles in there.

There's compartment for the jack and handle on the other side.
It possible to open up the top of each rear wheel well and put small stuff in there.

Lots of T4R owners will make custom wood boxes / platforms for the rear.
I'm still debating buying / bolting down this Hornady gun safe in the rear.
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...gunlocker-rfid

Problem with that safe is sleeping in the vehicle would be difficult with that in there.

The rear seats fold. I find I can get an AR15 under the rear seat both in the upright position and folded down position.

The 3rd Row 4Runners have a hidden cubby. Can't get a 3rd row with a locking rear dif (Off Road model).

Multiple companies sell these metal molle panels you can bolt over the rear side windows.

https://www.ragofabrication.com/coll...e-panel-system

Expensive shelving is available:



PS: I added Shrockworks Rock Sliders and a Cali-Raised Light bar to my truck. I think I'm done for awhile now.



Future mods -
LFD cross bars on the factory roof rack - will allow me to mount traction boards & a high jack lift.
Rear ladder - can mount gas cans to the ladder.
More skid plates.

Edited to add, there is enough room in the engine compartment to mount a 50 caliber ammo can in there.
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Edited to add, there is enough room in the engine compartment to mount a 50 caliber ammo can in there.
I would recommend installing a second battery in that space.
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